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Moronic Kentucky students in Maga hats mock Native American veteran

The non existent black Muslims at that.


They were members of an African-American Hebrew sect, but they were there on the longer versions of the video, which have been posted on sites I wouldn't want to link to; and they were shouting abuse at the red capped ones, in particular at the one black kid in the group. And it looks like the Native-Ameri can guy did approach them, not vice-versa. Still a vile bunch of kids, though.
 
Little scrote has "written" a letter (by that, I mean lawyers for the diocese, or maybe his parents, wrote it for him), which is a load of bullshit. But surprise, surprise, CNN Anchor Jake Tapper has shared it, and plenty are either buying the bullshit or going for the every popular "good people on both sides" angle. They tell you something you've seen with your own eyes isn't true, because they say so and enough people agree with them. Kinda like Donald Trump, eh?
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That whole thing stinks of bullshit.
 
Listen to the arrogant shit:

"I respect this person's right to protest and engage in free speech activities... I believe he should re-think his tactics of invading the personal space of others, but that is his choice to make."
 
I've just seen the a longer video that gives some more context to this event. The relevant time is 1:12:23:



From what I can tell this is basically what happened - these Kentucky catholic students were bussed in to NY for the annual anti-abortion rally. They gather opposite a black nationalist sect called the Black Hewbrew Israelites where a heated exchange takes place. Native American demonstrators interpose themselves between the two groups banging a drum and singing. The MAGA kids join in the singing - presumably most of them were mocking. But the media reporting that the kids 'surrounded' the Native Americans isn't the full story.
 
Don't really care pro-life member of the lets rape children and cover it up church maga hat.
let the 2 minute hate continue short of discovering the cure for cancer they will always be shits
 
I've just seen the a longer video that gives some more context to this event. The relevant time is 1:12:23:



From what I can tell this is basically what happened - these Kentucky catholic students were bussed in to NY for the annual anti-abortion rally. They gather opposite a black nationalist sect called the Black Hewbrew Israelites where a heated exchange takes place. Native American demonstrators interpose themselves between the two groups banging a drum and singing. The MAGA kids join in the singing - presumably most of them were mocking. But the media reporting that the kids 'surrounded' the Native Americans isn't the full story.


Cheers - always a good idea to take a peek behind the veneer of the clickbait. :thumbs:

Looks to me like two sets of religious dipshits getting in a ruck, and the Native American guys getting kind of caught among it, and the polarised atmosphere confuses the MAGA kids and one gives a weird attempt at a hard stare to the NA elder.

edit: Ick - especially edifying sites around 1:19. :(
 
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Cheers - always a good idea to take a peek behind the veneer of the clickbait. :thumbs:

Looks to me like two sets of religious dipshits getting in a ruck, and the Native American guys getting kind of caught among it, and the polarised atmosphere confuses the MAGA kids and one gives a weird attempt at a hard stare to the NA elder.

edit: Ick - especially edifying sites around 1:19. :(
One thing I saw is that the Native American lad was trying to get everyone to chill, and was hoping that his drumming would have a calming effect.

Another thing I saw is that entirely innocent people have already been doxxed over this. America's idiot liberals never miss a chance to take the wrong option.
 
The way I see it is if you're not ironically wearing a MAGA hat, you're already endorsing a hate filled racist ideology, so if you're too thick to see how staring down a Native American with a camera pointing at you won't end up coming back to bite then tough shit.
 
The way I see it is if you're not ironically wearing a MAGA hat, you're already endorsing a hate filled racist ideology, so if you're too thick to see how staring down a Native American with a camera pointing at you won't end up coming back to bite then tough shit.
And if an internet mob fingers some poor sod who's entirely innocent of that sort of shite?
 
Of course the right wing MAGATS are making a meal out of this. I'm surprised Trump hasn't tweeted his support for the students, but hey, the day is still young in Washington, DC.

I've watched all the videos that people are claiming absolve the school and students from any wrong-doing, but that ain't what I'm seeing. Yes, the 4 or 5 Black Hebrew guys are shouting insults at everyone who comes near, including the students, but that is what they do. Where the hell were the teachers and chaperones for the kids when they started shouting at them? Their job was to get them away from the situation - tell them to assemble somewhere further away and/or ignore them. I keep looking for any adult who might be doing that, and I'm not seeing it. So, the boys start chanting and dancing - maybe it's their school "chant," but it doesn't look nor sound like Dance of the Sugar Plum fairies, so in itself is provocative. The teachers should have stopped that shit.

So, Nathan Phillips and other Native Americans who were conducting a prayer ritual nearby approached to try and diffuse the tension. I saw and heard boys continuing to whoop and shout, make mocking gestures, and again, the adults with the school party should have stepped in - both to tell the boys to shut up and show respect, and then to say a quick "thanks" to Phillips and the others for their help before hustling the kids away so they wouldn't get into any further trouble.

The school claims the students weren't being intimidating and it was Phillips who was being provocative. Even if you give benefit of the doubt and believe the boys didn't intend to intimidate, dozens of white teenage boys - some shouting, some gesticulating, some wearing hats associated with a far right political movement - surrounding an elderly Native American man certainly LOOKS intimidating, and from Phillips account, he felt intimidated by them. Even if you also give benefit of a doubt that they students were too young to understand the impression they might give :rolleyes: where the fuck were the adults who were supposed to be responsible for them?

Seems the school, families and their supporters are doubling down on their line that the students were innocent, and are campaigning on social media to take legal action against journalists and anyone else who said anything to the contrary. All the usual right wing commentators are wailing and gnashing their teeth about the nasty liberal media's effort to smear the poor innocent boys and ruin their future. Snowball's chance in hell of that, so it's purely for intimidation. Others are spreading lies about Nathan Phillips, because, of course they will do that.

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Where the hell were the teachers and chaperones for the kids when they started shouting at them? Their job was to get them away from the situation - tell them to assemble somewhere further away and/or ignore them. I keep looking for any adult who might be doing that, and I'm not seeing it...

"Where the fuck are the grown ups?" - that is what kids in future history classes will be thinking when they're learning the history of the early 21st Century round the fire with their grandparents, tucking into a tasty rat on a stick.
 
The underlying issue in this incident and the aftermath is entitlement.

This all boys Catholic School felt entitled to bus it's students to Washington, DC, to take part in a rally that aims to strip women and girls of the right to have an abortion or access to contraception. Clearly their parents felt they were entitled to do so as well. They were teens, not tiny children, so I'm guessing the boys also thought so. Some of those boys felt entitled to wear MAGA hats, which shows their support for Trump and his associated far right ideals and values, whether or not wearing such an emblem might be experienced as provocative or intimidating to other people.

After the demonstration, the school party felt entitled to stand where they wanted on the Lincoln steps, and to stand their ground there rather than moving away from people who were shouting and insulting passers by, including them. They felt entitled to do their "school chant" then and there, even if the sight of 50 or so teenage boys shouting and stomping might be experienced as intimidating by others, especially without any context to what they were doing.

When a Native American elder approached them, praying through song and drumming, they did not feel in any way obliged to respect what he was doing. Had a Catholic Priest approached them speaking a prayer/giving a blessing, their response would have been completely different, and I'm betting they'd have expected any other group of people to likewise show respect for a priest doing that, even if they weren't Catholic themselves. While well-off kids from a private parochial school in the Midwest may be too sheltered to know what the Black Hebrew Israelites group were about, I do not believe they wouldn't have had some understanding of what Nathan Phillips and his party were doing on the Lincoln Memorial steps, or that his approach to them was threatening. Their sense of entitlement means they believe their view of right and wrong, as rich, privileged white young men from a Catholic School trumps anything and everything else.

And, when parents of the kids and people taking the "they're innocent, how dare their lives be ruined" line are using the "watch the video - the Black guys (or as Sandmann's mother said wrongly, "Black Muslims," started it, the Native American guy made it worse, the media has it in for the boys . . . etc," that's more entitlement right there. Conflating what the four Black shouty men did and what Nathan Phillips, the Omaha Elder did is okay because rich, white Catholic teenagers' rituals and beliefs are "normal," and theirs aren't, so whatever they do is automatically suspect.
 
"Where the fuck are the grown ups?" - that is what kids in future history classes will be thinking when they're learning the history of the early 21st Century round the fire with their grandparents, tucking into a tasty rat on a stick.
We won't have to wait long for that scenario if the pathetic excuse for political leadership in England continues headlong over the cliff on 29th March, but I'll give you credit for calling it first! ;)
 

That's exactly what the kid in the vid did do though. Regardless of what exchange happened before between the maga kids and the Hebrew lot. That little cunt and his mates were most definitely taking the fucking piss. The urge to head butt the smirking little twat was strong for me tbh.

The fact they were also there taking part in an anti abortion demo simply adds to the context imo. A bunch of alt right knobheads in the making.
 
That's exactly what he did do though. Regardless of what exchange happened before between the maga kids and the Hebrew lot. That little cunt and his mates were most definitely taking the fucking piss. The urge to head butt the smirking little twat was strong for me tbh.

The fact they were also there taking part in an anti abortion demo simply adds to the context imo. A bunch of alright knonheaxs in the making.
No, the tweet is saying that the brother of Andrew Hodge has been wrongly identified as being the smirking little twat.
 
I think its important to listen to everyone on this. The one person I've not heard speaking on the news is Elder Nathan Phillips. I don't know him, but I know the ideas behind what he was trying to do. He was the director of group for Native American Youth and probably thought he'd get the same reaction from these young people as it would from Omaha youth. Native youths would have opened a path for an elder and quieted down. Anyway, here's an interview for what its worth:

https://rewire.news/article/2019/01/20/an-interview-with-nathan-phillips-on-the-magayouth-incident/

The whole incident is a parable of the troubles afflicting the US at the moment. You have "sides" broken down by race and culture, and none of them talking to each other--just chanting slogans and insults. I suppose we should feel lucky that none of it came to blows.

One note about the young African American Hewbrew men. I've been watching lectures by this growing movement and I don't find it particularly reassuring. I've seen very blatant anti-Jewish and anti-women ideas expressed and its a little scary.
 
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