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Some of those posts will be from troll farms or organised groups tho and it's a tactic that's defo used to create despondency and scare people into believing fascist beliefs are much more numerous than they are. Not saying people should be complacent but how did this shit become so widespread in the first place?
 
frogwoman said:
Some of those posts will be from troll farms or organised groups tho and it's a tactic that's defo used to create despondency and scare people into believing fascist beliefs are much more numerous than they are. Not saying people should be complacent but how did this shit become so widespread in the first place?
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Yes, I did wonder at one point if the person I was responding to was some kind of troll operative themselves. It's just such a ridiculously extreme position that I find it hard to take seriously. If it's not the product of disingenuous meddling, then someone has managed to become frightened into a very dark and lonely place.
 
JimW said:
Unlike Stan, who does exist and is my son, and is almost as naughty.
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I think deep down, you know it's worth considering the idea that it is real.

I don't want anyone to make that pledge. It upset me that I wrote that.

I've had quite a few of these. Back in the day. I'd wake up and see an angel on her knees by my bedside praying for me, or praying over me. She was wearing some kind of old fashioned nurses uniform.

The one I can't easily explain is, in all my 40 years, i've dreamed of an encounter with two saints on separate occasions.

Each time I asked these persons their name. One told me he was 'San Miguel', the other told me she was Gwendolyne ("like Wendy").

In the dream, with Gwendolyne, I was in an ordinary kitchen dining area probably a flat. I was stood to the side of her on her right hand behind her, in the kitchen.

She was showing me her right breast, kind of in profile. I was looking for a while and in the end was beginning to be turned on a little bit.

So I realised then this was a holy encounter, same with San Miguel.

I went and sat at the dining table. Her daughter, blond hair about seven years old comes over to me. I ask the daughter
who that was, she says "Gwendolyne, like Wendy".

So I look it up when I wake up. Turns out there is a Saint Gwendolyn or also called Gwenn. And she is attributed
as having three breasts. And is now obscure but was once celebrated.
 
San miguel.

Well I guess he's just a hard knock. Has to be.

He just told me to 'keep going'. Wrote it on the pavement for me too after I met him.

I was a bad man. Not a hard man, but someone like who was messed up and would cause problems, could get people killed.

So in that dream I was in North Birkenhead, there was me and a mate.

They had pure dogs, you couldn't move a muscle. If you buck you are dead.

I behaved. Eventually shook his hand and asked his name. San miguel.

Mate just got composted and buried.

That was it. Never heard from him again.
 
NoXion said:
Yes, I did wonder at one point if the person I was responding to was some kind of troll operative themselves. It's just such a ridiculously extreme position that I find it hard to take seriously. If it's not the product of disingenuous meddling, then someone has managed to become frightened into a very dark and lonely place.
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Russian bot farms actively aim to promote division, pushing such a ridiculously intolerant hard-line position seems like it could plausibly be this. The poster also seems motivated by trying to hide the prevalence of propaganda accounts.

Tbh I stopped using Reddit for this reason, there's no point having a debate when there's a reasonable chance that you're wasting your breath arguing with a paid propagandist (also came across one account who I suspect was a bot generating responses with GenAI).
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
Has anyone noticed Youtube becoming more and more far right-wing? If I try to post anything criticizing what someone like this says, it gets immediately deleted.
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I have a Premium account which makes it even more annoying when they show me right wing videos in the first place - clearly something adrift with the way videos are being tagged.
No matter how many times they agree to stop, I'm constantly getting news items from the NY Post and Washington Post - and The Sun...
 
Strange - I very rarely get right-wing ads, I'm almost exclusively listening to radio plays or watching film noir on it though.
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
From the pulpit: "Some people need killing":




American Christianity has become this unhinged.

Has anyone noticed Youtube becoming more and more far right-wing? If I try to post anything criticizing what someone like this says, it gets immediately deleted.
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i put that up on another thread yesterday and a poster here didn't have too much trouble with it.
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
Has anyone noticed Youtube becoming more and more far right-wing? If I try to post anything criticizing what someone like this says, it gets immediately deleted.
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Yes, it’s definitely being gamed by someone to increase views. I don’t view political content on mine, mostly trains and music stuff, but my recommendations include Jordan fucking Peterson defending Tommy Robinson, and a video by racist former comedian Jim Davidson reporting that ‘illegal’ immigrants in France were celebrating Labour winning the U.K. election, which is obvious bollocks.
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
I think their point was that this is happening so frequently and being left unaddressed it has just become part of the background noise. I hope not to the point that the possibility of violence has become acceptable, but who knows at this point.
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Thank you. It's definitely not acceptable but it's so damn omnipresent.

(ETA, no point in what I said)
 
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Yes, it’s definitely being gamed by someone to increase views. I don’t view political content on mine, mostly trains and music stuff, but my recommendations include Jordan fucking Peterson defending Tommy Robinson, and a video by racist former comedian Jim Davidson reporting that ‘illegal’ immigrants in France were celebrating Labour winning the U.K. election, which is obvious bollocks.
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It can't be healthy being subjected to large amounts of information that echos far right-wing talking points. At best its divisive. At worst, it indoctrination.
 
Yuwipi Woman said:
It can't be healthy being subjected to large amounts of information that echos far right-wing talking points. At best its divisive. At worst, it indoctrination.
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But who is paying for this visibility? That’s where the dark money is and it needs exposing.

Remember when Google was all ‘do no harm’. They’re burning it all down for a quick profit ffs.
 
Dogsauce said:
But who is paying for this visibility? That’s where the dark money is and it needs exposing.

Remember when Google was all ‘do no harm’. They’re burning it all down for a quick profit ffs.
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In many ways Google, Amazon, and Microsoft (Meta) are doing all the things that the government isn't allowed to do. They've found a workaround for search and seizure laws, privacy protection, etc. simply by farming out the gathering of information and monitoring what people are doing and who they're doing it with to these companies. They more data you give them, the more power they have. Everyone is a profile. Even opting out is a profile, and not likely one that the government will see as anything but suspicious.
 
Dogsauce said:
But who is paying for this visibility? That’s where the dark money is and it needs exposing.

Remember when Google was all ‘do no harm’. They’re burning it all down for a quick profit ffs.
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It doesn't even need deliberate steering. RW stuff makes you feel angry and anger is the emotion most associated with Engagement (as the algorithms measure it). It only takes a little bit of an edge to get more eyes on a video, which makes it more liekly to be recommended, which gets more eyes on it and all the while the anger keeps those eyes glued and wanting more.
 
Crispy said:
It doesn't even need deliberate steering. RW stuff makes you feel angry and anger is the emotion most associated with Engagement (as the algorithms measure it). It only takes a little bit of an edge to get more eyes on a video, which makes it more liekly to be recommended, which gets more eyes on it and all the while the anger keeps those eyes glued and wanting more.
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You've been at the Jaron Lanier again aintcha?
 
They'll weep and gnash over some prayers and thoughts (see above) but not others


www.theguardian.com

Christian right see God’s hand in Trump rally shooting: ‘The world saw a miracle’

Attempted assassination bolsters Trump’s support in a key part of the Republican base – conservative evangelicals
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

Tldr?

Truly, this man is the son of god.

Or maybe my ol' mucker, Satan? If you're going to get all fantastical on it, maybe it was the hand of Old Nick what stayed the bullet?
 
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