Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"

[UrbaneFox]

The question is, what will the long-term public reaction be now that Cameron's proven closeness to a woman currently awaiting trial on serious criminal charges?

After hearing about their 'country suppers', horse-fancying, texts about us being all in it together, LOL etc, Eddie Mair wondered if we might be allowed to know somebody by the company he keeps.

 

[gabi]

interesting freedland analysis of that vomit-inducing text

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/14/rebekah-brooks-david-cameron-text-decoded

 

[Streathamite]

pity jay didn't focus more on Hameron claiming he didn't read Hunt's email - that's either a whopper or an admission of neglect of duties

 

[butchersapron]

Cabinet office confirm that brown told truth about alleged phone call to Murdoch.

 

[Lord Camomile]

Just to check, exactly what did he say, that there was no phone call at all, or he didn't say what Murdoch said he said?

 

[krtek a houby]

Jsut watched the highlights on C4 news - Cameron looked very very uncomfortable and shifty.

Whatever the outcome of the enquiry - today will have damaged him politically - it becomes easier and easier to portray him as a sleezy bullshitter.

The media are all over the 'all in this together' text.

Sooner or later a bollock will be dropped and there will be solid proof that Cameron has lied at some point in his evidence.

He's the UK Richard Nixon. Allegedly.

 

[butchersapron]

Just to check, exactly what did he say, that there was no phone call at all, or he didn't say what Murdoch said he said?

Well, he said there was no phone call at all, that must be what they've confirmed as its the only thing they can confirm. I expect we'll know a lot more very soon.

 

[Teaboy]

Brown - "I'm going to phone Murdoch and call him a cunt"
Mrs Brown - "Better use that pay phone round the corner, here's a quid".

 

[laptop]

interesting freedland analysis of that vomit-inducing text

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/14/rebekah-brooks-david-cameron-text-decoded

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"Fuck off all you libelliferous cunts"

 

[Roadkill]

Cabinet office confirm that brown told truth about alleged phone call to Murdoch.

Got a link for that, butchers?

 

[Lord Camomile]

Well, he said there was no phone call at all, that must be what they've confirmed as its the only thing they can confirm. I expect we'll know a lot more very soon.

Cheers. So what was all this about the call being minuted, and Brown would have known that but Murdoch wouldn't?

 

[butchersapron]

Got a link for that, butchers?

bbc and Guardian journalists on twitter for now, will find link wheni get home in about 15

 

[Roadkill]

bbc and Guardian journalists on twitter for now, will find link wheni get home in about 15

I should have thought of Twitter. A quick look turns up:

norman smith ‏@BBCNormanS
Cabinet Office confirm Gordon Brown version of phone call with Rupert Murdoch in November 2009 #leveson

Brown Moses ‏@Brown_Moses
NEW - Did Rupert Murdoch Lie To Leveson About Gordon Brown? http://brown-moses.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/did-rupert-murdoch-lie-to-leveson-about.html @tom_watson @jackofkent #leveson #hackgate

 

[butchersapron]

Cheers. So what was all this about the call being minuted, and Brown would have known that but Murdoch wouldn't?

I think that was just shorthand for 'taking place'.

 

[Roadkill]

Guido Fawkes has a rather different take on this...

 

[belboid]

Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?

 

[Lord Camomile]

I did think it was rather an odd accusation for Rupert to make if it had no basis in fact, and it is rather easy to conceive of Brown making a call that wasn't recorded.

 

[butchersapron]

Guido Fawkes has a rather different take on this...

Just read that - don't see how that helps murdoch in the slightest. Guido is desperate as i think he made the wrong call when this came out (need to check that mind).

 

[Roadkill]

Well, he would say that, wouldn't he?

He would, and it's probably bollocks, but it could muddy the waters even so.

 

[butchersapron]

Actually, he's totally misread the statement - the statement says there was no phone call in september 2009, not just that there was one in Nov 2009. That in period march 2009 to 2010 this was the single phone call.

 

[gosub]

Staines is talking shite though, as much as I actually believe Murdouch over Brown on this, the onus now would be on Murdoch to prove it, and Murdoch wouldn't risk admitting he tapes conversations (real Watergate type headaches over that) unless he was facing prison time.

 

[butchersapron]

Just noticed:

Q. May I just deal with one piece of evidence the Inquiry received from Mr MacKenzie. Mr MacKenzie told us that Mr Brown spoke to you on the phone, this was on or shortly after 30 September 2009 and he, Mr Brown, is said to have roared at you for 20 minutes. Is that true or not?

get this scumbag in there as well! Although he does have the get out of Murdoch claiming he was only told it over dinner, rather that witnessing it.

 

[little_legs]

 

[elbows]

Nice timing. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/15/rupert-murdoch-tony-blair-iraq-alastair-campbell

Rupert Murdoch joined in an "over-crude" attempt by US Republicans to force Tony Blair to accelerate British involvement in the Iraq war a week before a crucial House of Commons vote in 2003, according to the final volumes of Alastair Campbell's government diaries.

Campbell wrote that on 11 March 2003, a week before the Commons vote in which MPs voted to deploy British troops to Iraq, Murdoch intervened to try to persuade Blair to move more quickly towards war. "[Tony Blair] took a call from Murdoch who was pressing on timings, saying how News International would support us, etc," Campbell wrote. "Both TB and I felt it was prompted by Washington, and another example of their over-crude diplomacy. Murdoch was pushing all the Republican buttons, how the longer we waited the harder it got." The following day, 12 March, he wrote: "TB felt the Murdoch call was odd, not very clever."

It certainly doesn't look very clever now

• Gordon Brown agitated so aggressively against Tony Blair – demanding a departure date soon after the 9/11 attacks – that Downing Street concluded in 2002 that the then chancellor was "hell-bent on TB's destruction".
The diaries will raise questions about Brown's claim at Leveson that he and his staff never briefed against Blair. Campbell provides specific examples of when Brown and his chief aide, Ed Balls, were suspected of doing just that. In one example, the former health secretary Alan Milburn told Blair that Brown encouraged MPs to defy a government three-line whip to vote against foundation hospitals in 2003.

Blair was "thwarted" from joining the euro by Brown and Balls in 2003. On 11 June 2003, two days after Brown concluded that Britain had not yet met his five tests on euro membership, Campbell wrote: "Things just hadn't worked on the euro and TB was pretty fed up...The judgment was settling that GB had basically thwarted him. TB feared we were making the wrong decision for the wrong reasons."

Shame Blair wasn't thwarted more often.

I wonder if Blair can still feel the hand of history upon his shoulder, or had it already pulled out his spine and shoved it up his arse?

 

[gosub]

Re Iraq timing, Was having lots of chats pre invasion with defense exterior types (french Mi6). They had the timing down to the operation difficulties of sitting in a tank in the middle of middle east summer and the markets being to jittery (price of oil rising steadily)so couldn't wait till autumn. But if man in media relations says it was Murdoch.... The blood runs redder on colour tv

 

[agricola]

Nice timing. http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/15/rupert-murdoch-tony-blair-iraq-alastair-campbell

Dunno if you have read the Chris Mullin diaries, but there is an entry from before the Iraq war (June 2002) where Mullin was speaking to a Tory MP (George Young) who told him that IDS was entangled up with the Americans then, and that they were trying to disentangle him.

 

[two sheds]

Police study Murdoch's 'secret' iPhone account

The smartphones, issued by O2 in a contract beginning in October 2009, included a handset given to James Murdoch, the former chairman and chief executive of News Corp Europe. Despite billing for the phones totalling nearly £12,000 between June last year and May this year, neither Operation Weeting nor the Leveson Inquiry was told of the existence of the smartphone accounts.

Four "newly "discovered Apple iPhones issued to senior executives at News International: I wonder how they were discovered. Sounds like more withholding evidence.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Police study Murdoch's 'secret' iPhone account

The smartphones, issued by O2 in a contract beginning in October 2009, included a handset given to James Murdoch, the former chairman and chief executive of News Corp Europe. Despite billing for the phones totalling nearly £12,000 between June last year and May this year, neither Operation Weeting nor the Leveson Inquiry was told of the existence of the smartphone accounts.

They probably want to look at changing tariffs.

 

[Dan U]

They probably want to look at changing tariffs.

thats a heck of a lot of porn downloading

 

[DaveCinzano]

Or uploading... Think of all those slumber parties chez Brooks