Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
i don't think it's leaking as such, its been positively splashing out that bit of news today.
Missing Milly Dowler's voicemail "hacked by News of the World"
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Paulie Tandoori
shut it you egg!
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
But Peston's an annoying cunt.
i think lewis testimony should be listened to in full. He basically got shat on by everyone - police, news international, his own firm of solicitors (who sacked him) and got accused of being a liar by PCC (specifically Baroness Buscombe) for saying there were thousands of phone hacking victims.
http://www.parliamentlive.tv/Main/Player.aspx?meetingId=8922
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
They're all cunts. Slimey liberal weasel cunts.
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
There was a running line that it was Brooks who intervened as Guto Harri was almost in the job when Brooks demanded Cameron hire Coulson
The insinuation was that clean BBC person was dumped for the dirty diggers man as part of the Chipping Norton sets influence and especially Brooks malignant influence over the PM.
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Definently seems to have been one of the good guys in all this.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
erm yeah, thanks for that image
weltweit
Well-Known Member
I was only really playing devils advocate about "integrity" and Rebekah Brooks, but that said, watching the committee questioning the Murdochs today it seems quite a lot of people have resigned or otherwise left the sinking ship that was NotW.
imo the committee did not land a blow on Brooks, perhaps they were advised various questions could not be asked because of the police investigation but anyhow I think Brooks charmed them.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
probably the only person giving evidence to the committee who 1. isn't lying through his teeth to save his neck 2. hasn't got something to hide.
Even the cps are up to their ankles in shit.
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Tom Watsons parting coment about Gordon Taylors confidentiality clause. There was a suggestion that a voice recording was part of the evidence.
If that was not a Clive Goodman story would that not blow James Murdochs claimed timeline of when he knew hacking was more widespread (if true)?
If that was not a Clive Goodman story would that not blow James Murdochs claimed timeline of when he knew hacking was more widespread (if true)?
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
In short, no - at least according to this Nick Davies piece, the hacking of Taylor's phone was carried out by Mulcaire prior to his sacking, and in any case James Murdoch claimed that the Taylor settlement was on the (entirely sensible, given what we now know) legal advice given to him to settle the claim, even at an apparently vastly inflated cost.
little_legs
Поехали!
Louise Mensch on CNN confronted by Piers Morgan:
spartacus mills
let's wee on each other
Yup, she's as stupid as that bell-end who chucked the cream pie at the Digger, we'll have days of Moron calling for the daft git to resign from the Select Committee now...
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
piers morgan is a grade a walking talking overfleshed sack of meat giving an ambulatory frame for three stone of shit. But he's got a fair point if she's totally misquoted him and fairly implicated him. mores the pity.
spartacus mills
let's wee on each other
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Morgan is one of a select few of individuals alive today who shouldnt be allowed to come out with "fair points", given his history. If he didnt condone phone hacking during his time as editor of the Mirror, then it must be one of a very few malpractices that he didnt condone, facilitate, encourage or financially profit from during that period.
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pk
drink flounce rinse repeat
I'll believe Louise Mensch over Piss Morgan any day of the week.
Nobody has read his fucking book. He's a tosspot criminal who had to quit the Mirror after falsely repeating bullshit stories and insider trading.
The American media might be dumb enough to fall for his shit but I for one am glad he was globally shamed today. He is inextricably linked to this scandal, and CNN should know better.
Nobody has read his fucking book. He's a tosspot criminal who had to quit the Mirror after falsely repeating bullshit stories and insider trading.
The American media might be dumb enough to fall for his shit but I for one am glad he was globally shamed today. He is inextricably linked to this scandal, and CNN should know better.
invisibleplanet
porter des cornes
Piers Morgan said:
Recently? pub. 2005. 6 years ago. The year before #hackgate breaks.
So yes, under a decade counts as ''recently''.
Did he boast? Anyone who's read his book could be forgiven for viewing the whole book's cocksure tone as boasting. He says of himself in his book: ''I defy anyone not to be handed the biggest-selling newspaper in the world at 28 and not become a rather cocky little git''.
Does he refer to the criminal activity of using the ''standard four digit code to hear all your messages'' as ''this little trick'' ? Yes, he refers to a known criminal activity as 'this little trick'. Does he do anything to stop it? No. He writes about it and sells that information in his book (pub. 2005).
Personal use? Not necessarily, unless turning a blind eye to the use of 'phone-hacking' by either his own journalists, or independent journalists not employed directly by Morgan, who could feasibly have given him a solid lead procured by using 'this little trick', which he would, as editor, then be required to follow-up personally via conventional means, counts as ''personal use''. He may well have made ''personal use'' of information gleaned this way, and there are hints of this as a methodology in his book, but then again, he might not have done. Certainly there are no direct confessions, so we can't say for sure he personally used information gleaned by phone-hacking, however the inference is certainly there in his book.
He certainly knew about phone-hacking as a practice. He knew his and other journalists were doing it c.2005. Willful ignorance of criminal activity is no defence. If he personally followed up any leads, then it counts as 'personal use'. If he didn't, then it's not. Simple.
Does this 'little trick'' refer to a celebrity (Ulrika/Sven). Not obviously, although it's not made clear how the initial scoop was gleaned which he then personally followed up with Ulrika's agent (cited as 'close friend').
A cursory glance leads one to believe that it's more serious than a celebrity or two having their private life phone-hacked. In his book, the reference to ''little trick'' appears in a series of scoops about Mandelson and the DTI (Department of Trade and Industry), discussing journalist knowledge of phone calls without any insider DTI leak at the time.
Does this bear further investigation?
Yes, of course it does.
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Why did he bother mentioning it in the book at all?
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
I was intrigued by the role of Ed Llewellyn as Cameron's firewall. He allegedly made efforts to prevent Cameron hearing about NoTW misdeeds. Now either that's after-the-fact porkies designed to allow Cameron to claim ignorance as the Murdochs were doing yesterday, or it indicates that prophylactic PR measures were already in place.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...in-trouble-for-not-communicating-2317215.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/p...in-trouble-for-not-communicating-2317215.html
it's fairly obvious what he was hinting at isn't it? why bother adding anything?
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