Millwall fans conform with stereotype shocker ....

[Puddy_Tat]

I'm not exactly rushing to millwall's defence here, but what I will say is that it's by no means unknown for the media to decide it's going to do a story about [particular group of people] having [particular characteristic] then going out and finding a few people who fit that and use them to 'prove' the agenda they started with.

 

[pocketscience]

Yes. Racism is equally as bad as denigrating football supporters. Well done.

That's obviously not my point but, I suspect you knew that.
Racism is found in all areas of society from schools to workplace and football to fishing. So going on his logic, we need to kick society out of... err... society... ?

 

[tommers]

Did you really just argue whether or not millwall should be disbanded?

Ah. The internet.

 

[pocketscience]

Disbanding society is probably more feasible... They're mad that millwall lot. Been at it since the 80s they have...

 

[DRINK?]

I have never met a nice millwall fan and I've met a lot of fans from from a lot of clubs. In my experience each and everyone has been a coked up violent cunt, this ''exposé" is not in the least bit surprising, spend a night in a bermondsey boozer for more of the same

 

[Corax]

Leaving policing of this stuff in the hands of the clubs and their CCTV/stewards doesn't work. Too much vested interest.

There need to independent observers undercover in the crowds of every game, mic'd and cam'd up as the Sky lot were. I doubt it would cost much as I expect 3rd sector orgs would take it on, but even if it did I get the impression football has a bit of cash about it these days...

I'm sure my own club would be screwed if that happened though, given that a certain section of football society seems intent on obtusely insisting our repatriation on "Yid" is antisemitic. Getting that debate settled once and for all wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing though, and certainly a price worth paying either way.

 

[The39thStep]

I have never met a nice millwall fan and I've met a lot of fans from from a lot of clubs. In my experience each and everyone has been a coked up violent cunt, this ''exposé" is not in the least bit surprising, spend a night in a bermondsey boozer for more of the same

Obviously beyond all questionable doubt then.

 

[The39thStep]

Leaving policing of this stuff in the hands of the clubs and their CCTV/stewards doesn't work. Too much vested interest.

There need to independent observers undercover in the crowds of every game, mic'd and cam'd up as the Sky lot were. I doubt it would cost much as I expect 3rd sector orgs would take it on, but even if it did I get the impression football has a bit of cash about it these days...

I'm sure my own club would be screwed if that happened though, given that a certain section of football society seems intent on obtusely insisting our repatriation on "Yid" is antisemitic. Getting that debate settled once and for all wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing though, and certainly a price worth paying either way.

Just get DRINK? down there with a notepad and a pay as you go phone

 

[DRINK?]

Just an observation, probably just unlucky and the good guys are doing charity work or something

 

[Onket]

I have lunch most Thursdays with a Millwall supporter who is a fellow union steward in his workplace. Met him on a union arranged course in Deptford. Top bloke.

 

[tommers]

Various cousins and my aunt and uncle are millwall fans.

And a volunteer I met once on an outreach shift, helping homeless people. For nothing.

 

[tommers]

Oh and some fella I used to work with, but I think he was actually a coked up hoolie.

 

[Pickman's model]

I've already answered that up there. Liverpool doesn't have a serious endemic hooliganism problem or a persistently racist section of support at Anfield. Therefore, I reject your argument and turn your attention back to Millwall who do have an endemic hooliganism problem and racist section of support at the New Den.

do you think there's a problem among the playing staff at anfield?

 

[IC3D]

I used to knock around in Bermondsey a few years ago and I can't really deny the people I knew didn't live up to the crazy stereotype but it was interesting who we hung around with when the odd ranting racist fucked off.

 

[Pickman's model]

The posts about "trying to kill" at Heysel betray the poster's ignorance about events on that night. Liverpool fans were of course a reason for the tragedy but no-one was murdered.

it's strange how even millwall fans have managed to avoid killing 39 people in one afternoon, isn't it.

 

[co-op]

Did you really just argue whether or not millwall should be disbanded?

Ah. The internet.

Tbf it's quite a common debate in south London. Or it used to be when I was in the pub, but I was kind of aware that I was just taking the piss really.

 

[Favelado]

do you think there's a problem among the playing staff at anfield?

I don't. My answer to the Suárez incident would be quite nuanced but it's for another thread. In short, he's got himself to blame, he did wrong but there are some things I'd say in his defence. Not here though.

 

[Pickman's model]

so everything's fine and dandy at anfield then

 

[Favelado]

it's strange how even millwall fans have managed to avoid killing 39 people in one afternoon, isn't it.

Go and educate yourself about Heysel. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. I've already answered honestly and accurately about this. It was a terrible thing that happened. The reasons that it happened were because of the bad behaviour of Liverpool fans, the bad behaviour of Juventus fans, the crumbling state of the stadium and poor organisation by UEFA.

What a cheap post that is.

 

[CyberRose]

I have lunch most Thursdays with a Millwall supporter who is a fellow union steward in his workplace. Met him on a union arranged course in Deptford. Top bloke.

They're actually referred to as "top boys"

 

[Favelado]

so everything's fine and dandy at anfield then

I didn't say that. I gave a proper answer.

 

[Corax]

They're actually referred to as "top boys"

Thought it was 'lads'? Or is that just twats on 'casual' forums desperate to re-enact Green Street?

 

[Pickman's model]

Go and educate yourself about Heysel. You obviously don't know what you're talking about. I've already answered honestly and accurately about this. It was a terrible thing that happened. The reasons that it happened were because of the bad behaviour of Liverpool fans, the bad behaviour of Juventus fans, the crumbling state of the stadium and poor organisation by UEFA.

What a cheap post that is.

yes. cheap and nasty, a bit like your views on millwall imo.

 

[CyberRose]

Thought it was 'lads'? Or is that just twats on 'casual' forums desperate to re-enact Green Street?

I dunno, thought that's what Danny Dyer calls them when he's bein propah nawty!

 

[Pickman's model]

I dunno, thought that's what Danny Dyer calls them when he's bein propah nawty!

naw'hee, surely.

 

[CyberRose]

naw'hee, surely.

Eh? Sounds like a Geordie sayin "no way"!

 

[Pickman's model]

Eh? Sounds like a Geordie sayin "no way"!

imagine a cockney saying it.

 

[Favelado]

yes. cheap and nasty, a bit like your views on millwall imo.

Absolutely not. My argument may be a bit "out there" and I understand why most people disagree with me but I tried to back it up with a historical case and a logical argument built on an idea I had. You tried to dig up Suárez and then Heysel and apparently don't know much about the latter.

You're about 75 or something and you're posting like a 14 year old.

 

[CyberRose]

imagine a cockney saying it.

A cockney saying it in a geordie accent still sounds geordie tho!

 

[Pickman's model]

Absolutely not. My argument may be a bit "out there" and I understand why most people disagree with me but I tried to back it up with a historical case and a logical argument built on an idea I had. You tried to dig up Suárez and then Heysel and apparently don't know much about the latter.

You're about 75 or something and you're posting like a 14 year old.

how could i 'dig up' heysel when YOU fucking mentioned in before i arrived on the fucking thread you daft cunt?

your fucking memory's fucked, you're in your dotage.