Milk's impact on the planet dairy, soya, rice, oat and almond compared

[littlebabyjesus]

Saul, yesterday.

 

[8ball]

But that's not the point. This is a thread about milk alternatives, and where I live is totally irrelevant.

It’s relevant in terms of discussing carbon impact. It’s perfectly correct that you will have a very low carbon impact living in a city and cycling everywhere.

That was the point under discussion.

 

[editor]

It’s relevant in terms of discussing carbon impact.

No it's fucking not and never has been. It is NOT ON to post up a poster's personal details without their permission regardless of whether it can be found on Google or not. That's the rules of these boards.

 

[Orang Utan]

I laugh at you because each and every post you make is either an attempt at putting someone else down or an attempt at... fuck it... you're not worth the effort.

provable lies. i think you've had a few. night night.

 

[Orang Utan]

I'm off to bed, before something something

before i get my hat handed to me again, soaking in soya milk.

 

[8ball]

No it's fucking not and never has been. it is NOT ON to use a poster's personal details without their permission regardless of whether it can be found on Google or not. That's the rules of these boards.

Yes it fucking is relevant. Demonstably so.

If you’d rather it not be said, that’s fine, but if we’re discussing carbon impact then it’s relevant. Things don’t magically become true or false based on your whim.

I really don’t get the prickly paranoia pervading these threads, it’s not like you’ve been fucking doxxed on this thread in front of a baying crowd of alt-rightists - we’re talking about *milk* ffs!

 

[Calamity1971]

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Saul, yesterday.

Don't think so, Saul whittles his own wellies.

 

[editor]

Yes it fucking is relevant. Demonstably so.

If you’d rather it not be said, that’s fine, but if we’re discussing carbon impact then it’s relevant. Things don’t magically become true or false based on your whim.

I really don’t get the prickly paranoia pervading these threads, it’s not like you’ve been fucking doxxed on this thread in front of a baying crowd of alt-rightists - we’re talking about *milk* ffs!

Nope. I started these boards so I'm pretty sure I know the posting rules better than you so I'm not going to repeat myself again.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Little bit of perspective here, perhaps. I did bring it up. My bad. But I said two things - lives in a flat and in a city. Nothing more.

 

[editor]

Little bit of perspective here, perhaps. I did bring it up. My bad. But I said two things - lives in a flat and in a city. Nothing more.

I appreciate that but there's damn good reasons why I don't want any person details being brought up here in any form, and it's simply not on to cite my personal circumstances when everyone else is sitting behind a nice anonymous login, particularly in a thread about dairy alternatives of all things.

 

[8ball]

Nope. I started these boards so I'm pretty sure I know the posting rules better than you so I'm not going to repeat myself again.

Fuck’s sake. How about a “READ THE FUCKING POSTS!!” rule?

Just as an aide memoir for yourself if nothing else.

 

[8ball]

I appreciate that but there's damn good reasons why I don't want any person details being brought up here in any form, and it's simply not on to cite my personal circumstances when everyone else is sitting behind a nice anonymous login, particularly in a thread about dairy alternatives of all things.

I live in a little ex-mining cottage on the outskirts of a city in the East Midlands.

<checks to see whether the pitchfork-laden mob is encroaching yet>

 

[editor]

I live in a little ex-mining cottage in the outskirts of a city in the East Midlands.

<checks to see whether the pitchfork-laden mob is encroaching yet>

And can people fairly easily make a connection between your board name and your real name and address? I've had real life threats from running these boards and real life full on stalkers who endangered me and my girlfriend. That's why it's not on to leak personal details on unrelated threads, even if some people think there's no harm in it. I do hope that clears things up for you. And forgive me for not laughing at your flippant hilarity.

 

[Saul Goodman]

And can people fairly easily make a connection between your board name and your real name and address? I've had real life threats from running these boards and real life full on stalkers who endangered me and my girlfriend. That's why it's not on to leak personal details on unrelated threads, even if some people think there's no harm in it. I do hope that clears things up for you. And forgive me for not laughing at your flippant hilarity.

I really don't see how ' you live in a flat in a city' is in any way leaking your personal details. I'm sure there are many millions who fit that description.

 

[editor]

I really don't see how ' you live in a flat in a city' is in any way leaking your personal details. I'm sure there are many millions who fit that description.

Oh just fuck off.

 

[Wookey]

And can people fairly easily make a connection between your board name and your real name and address? I've had real life threats from running these boards and real life full on stalkers who endangered me and my girlfriend. That's why it's not on to leak personal details on unrelated threads, even if some people think there's no harm in it. I do hope that clears things up for you. And forgive me for not laughing at your flippant hilarity.

You've gone full on Streisand Effect now!

I think everyone would assume that you lived in a flat in London, you don't live in a tent or a detached villa, quite where else you would live I'm not sure?!

 

[editor]

You've gone full on Streisand Effect now!

I think everyone would assume that you lived in a flat in London, you don't live in a tent or a detached villa, quite where else you would live I'm not sure?!

I've been discussing the principle that it is NOT OK to bring up any personal details that give away information that a poster has decided not to contribute to a thread. And then I tried to explain the reasoning behind it.

But thanks for your contribution.

 

[ddraig]

you've got to be silenced or ridiculed (or both), then they'll "win" and feel better about themselves

 

[8ball]

And can people fairly easily make a connection between your board name and your real name and address? I've had real life threats from running these boards and real life full on stalkers who endangered me and my girlfriend. That's why it's not on to leak personal details on unrelated threads, even if some people think there's no harm in it. I do hope that clears things up for you. And forgive me for not laughing at your flippant hilarity.

Yeah, and what you have volunteered yourself is very easily searchable on this site and includes what was said here (in your support, in terms of the discussion, ffs!), as well as a lot more.

That’s what happens when you interact with people in society using the internet as one of your conduits, and especially when you have your oen boards where you speak freely.

In a week’s time what LBJ said (which is pretty common knowledge anyway) will have made no difference at all to any risks you face, and I don’t think it presents any risk now, frankly. You are just getting weird and fractious and haughty like you do when any of your hobby horses is under discussion.

And yes, that factor is relevant if we are talking about carbon impact, and it’s of course right that you quote FAQ’s if something makes you uncomfortable, but those are two different things.

I think this really comes down to you not really feeling you’re among friends when disagreed with on certain subjects, but fine, let’s all stay within the selectively-applied FAQs.

Now, can we move on?

 

[editor]

you've got to be silenced or ridiculed (or both), then they'll "win" and feel better about themselves

It's been one of the worst threads on these boards for a long time.

 

[Saul Goodman]

you've got to be silenced or ridiculed (or both), then they'll "win" and feel better about themselves

Who are 'they' and 'them'?

 

[editor]

Yeah, and what you have volunteered yourself is very easily searchable on this site and includes what was said here (in your support, in terms of the discussion, ffs!), as well as a lot more.

That’s what happens when you interact with people in society using the internet as one of your conduits, and especially when you have your oen boards where you speak freely.

In a week’s time what LBJ said (which is pretty common knowledge anyway) will have made no difference at all to any risks you face, and I don’t think it presents any risk now, frankly. You are just getting weird and fractious and haughty like you do when any of your hobby horses is under discussion.

And yes, that factor is relevant if we are talking about carbon impact, and it’s of course right that you quote FAQ’s if something makes you uncomfortable, but those are two different things.

I think this really comes down to you not really feeling you’re among friends when disagreed with on certain subjects, but fine, let’s all stay within the selectively-applied FAQs.

Now, can we move on?

So you really don't get it? OK. Goodbye.

 

[8ball]

Who are 'they' and 'them'?

Bad people.

 

[Saul Goodman]

I really don't get it. I'm sure most people who post here are conscious of and are limiting their negative impact on the planet, so why does it feel like a competition to discover who is most holy?

 

[8ball]

I really don't get it. I'm sure most people who post here are conscious of and are limiting their negative impact on the planet, so why does it feel like a competition to discover who is most holy?

It’s a bloody hard thing to work out tbh.

 

[Saul Goodman]

It’s a bloody hard thing to work out tbh.

In the last couple of years, I've, at least, halved my meat consumption. In the same time, I've massively reduced my carbon footprint, but because I still drink milk, I'm a planet destroying monster, who wants to savagely kill all of the animals on the planet.
The mind boggles!

 

[Orang Utan]

I really don't get it. I'm sure most people who post here are conscious of and are limiting their negative impact on the planet, so why does it feel like a competition to discover who is most holy?

In the last couple of years, I've, at least, halved my meat consumption. In the same time, I've massively reduced my carbon footprint, but because I still drink milk, I'm a planet destroying monster, who wants to savagely kill all of the animals on the planet.
The mind boggles!

 

[Saul Goodman]

FFS, grow a pair and learn to think for yourself

 

[Saul Goodman]

but you don't know that at all. you can only make utterly erroneous assumptions. and it's prerogative.

No, I was quite selective in my choice of words.

 

[ddraig]

either you do give a shit and have made changes as you've posted yourself or you don't and can ignore this thread
why the fuck are you posting so much shit, hypocrisy hunting and keep going round and round and coming back to it??
you can just fuck off the thread if nothing to prove