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I strongly recommend. Best thing I've read on social reproduction of schools
Oh I know. It's my "specialist area". Just haven't got round to it.
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I strongly recommend. Best thing I've read on social reproduction of schools
These values contradict the lived experience of w/c families. Bourdieu talks of this as "symbolic violence".
Some of gibberish and blether on this thread - mainly by Feralhadley and 8ball - indicate that more people need to read Bourdieu to be frank.
From the crude ‘you don’t get othering if you stick to working class areas like wot I done’ to crude economic determinations of class, it’s embarrassing in the context of this debate
Brown sauce; HP = MC, Daddies = you're OK.
Great stuff. Incoherent rage against most people in our country justified by some obscure text most people do not give a fuck about.indicate that more people need to read Bourdieu to be frank.
Great stuff. Incoherent rage against most people in our country justified by some obscure text most people do not give a fuck about.
The amusing mixture of narcissistic assumption you own a widely used phrase and your utter contempt for anyone not lining up to suck you off.
Bourdieu sounds like a book the upper class would read.
Great stuff. Incoherent rage against most people in our country justified by some obscure text most people do not give a fuck about.
The amusing mixture of narcissistic assumption you own a widely used phrase and your utter contempt for anyone not lining up to suck you off.
Bourdieu sounds like a book the upper class would read.
So are you saying “it’s not for you plebs!” ?![]()
Name a text most people do give a fuck aboutGreat stuff. Incoherent rage against most people in our country justified by some obscure text most people do not give a fuck about.
The amusing mixture of narcissistic assumption you own a widely used phrase and your utter contempt for anyone not lining up to suck you off.
Name a text most people do give a fuck about
Self awareness interventions.You’ve spent the entire thread snarking and sneering
So bourdieu's distinction v happy birthdayThe lyrics to “Happy Birthday”
So bourdieu's distinction v happy birthday![]()
Self awareness interventions.
That is the sole purpose of this thread.
Hey you have not threatened to murder people you disagree with for a bit, you might lose your Urban 75 "street" cred here. Get on it!
Disagreeing with someone as blatantly genius with you is clearly mental.The first two sentences make no sense at all, bar in the swamp of your head.
The rest of it is frankly mental
Disagreeing with someone as blatantly genius with you is clearly mental.![]()
That'd the colours of the EU flag tho
Manter said
That the other stuff didn’t matter; for lots of people it did matter too
Of course it mattered to many.
What I am asking is why these regressive material changes didn't prompt the same response from a huge swathe of the liberal middle class that we've witnessed since 2016
They were packing the theatre at I, Daniel Blake
I think there are two deep and long run currents within middle class phenomenology that have been forced to the surface by Brexit. They go to the very core of its collective identity, regardless of politics - and have been upturned by the referendum.
Firstly, the middle class adopts the role of the narrating class of politics and culture in Britain, on the basis of its certainty that what it thinks is influential and important and has agency. This has been their prevailing view, outside of economic matters, for 50 years, but has been confronted head on by Brexit.
Second, they widely possess a mistaken assumption that a) most working class people aspire to join them and adapt and learn their superior values and b) that there is, fundamentally, a set of shared interests between the two classes against the elite rather than two entirely separate classes with opposing interests and divergent histories. Both of these assumptions have been broken by the last three years and the response has been barely concealed resentful fury
Finally, I have heard many middle class liberals, who otherwise rate themselves as impeccably woke, freely toss around the sneers and knowling comments about the working class. Popular middle class culture is awash with implied criticisms of the working class, especially proles with a white skin. These are people who would never dream of telling a racist joke, but they think nothing of ridiculing or criticising those of lesser economic means. Every group has its ‘other.’ For a lot of middle class people it is, and always has been, the working class.
I think there are two deep and long run currents within middle class phenomenology that have been forced to the surface by Brexit. They go to the very core of its collective identity, regardless of politics - and have been upturned by the referendum.
Firstly, the middle class adopts the role of the narrating class of politics and culture in Britain, on the basis of its certainty that what it thinks is influential and important and has agency. This has been their prevailing view, outside of economic matters, for 50 years, but has been confronted head on by Brexit.
Second, they widely possess a mistaken assumption that a) most working class people aspire to join them and adapt and learn their superior values and b) that there is, fundamentally, a set of shared interests between the two classes against the elite rather than two entirely separate classes with opposing interests and divergent histories. Both of these assumptions have been broken by the last three years and the response has been barely concealed resentful fury
Finally, I have heard many middle class liberals, who otherwise rate themselves as impeccably woke, freely toss around the sneers and knowling comments about the working class. Popular middle class culture is awash with implied criticisms of the working class, especially proles with a white skin. These are people who would never dream of telling a racist joke, but they think nothing of ridiculing or criticising those of lesser economic means. Every group has its ‘other.’ For a lot of middle class people it is, and always has been, the working class.
does anyone actually rate themselves as 'woke', impeccably or otherwise?
this isn't a thread about america, it bring in UK p&p should give that awayin the U.S, absolutely.
*unpacks deckchair*
Whiney middle class twats whining about other whiney middle class twats. with zero self awareness.
Urban 75 always giving you something to laugh at.
Didn't need to be that "class-aware" to see that it was the disabled & other work-shy degenerates that were paying for the crash...whilst their own shareholdings/property portfolios were doing very nicely.
My daughter, a social worker, has just phoned me, incandescent with rage, after a 'congratulations' card has been handed around the office. 'Congrats on your new (bigger) house'. She witheringly mentioned how no-one ever offered her a card in the event of her moving to a different private rental. A huge uncomfortable silence ensued and mutterings of 'O well, what do you expect from N'. Her point, which none of them even considered, is, once again, the enormous gap between the mc, dual income, property-owning workers and the people who they are supposed to support...which is shaded by contempt and disgust at worst and condescending patriarchal noblesse oblige at best...without even a shred of shared solidarity.
In London, there will be wc social workers, because, even with a gloss of professionalism, it is a career which is not highly regarded...but in Tory Norfolk, the class difference is unbreachable.
She is submitting a little rage-y essay to 'Lumpen'.