Mass stabbing at Southport Kids’ Club 29/7/24

[ouirdeaux]

And yes, it’s things I’ve heard from people that are inside.

I know you're a brainless shitstain, but you're outdoing yourself here. Obviously, this has the stink of bullshit invented on the spur of the moment to back up your idiocy. But let's assume it's true -- you're saying you know so many people who are banged up that you have multiple contacts in the same institution? You move in interesting circles.

 

[ddraig]

oh dear, mask slipped, state of you burtabraham

 

[Pickman's model]

I know you're a brainless shitstain, but you're outdoing yourself here. Obviously, this has the stink of bullshit invented on the spur of the moment to back up your idiocy. But let's assume it's true -- you're saying you know so many people who are banged up that you have multiple contacts in the same institution? You move in interesting circles.

He's either a liar or a screw

 

[JimW]

Muhammad - a misogynistic, homophobic, antisemitic, racist, paedophilic, Jihad waging, genocidal war lord. But people criticising his religion are the problem. Yeah right!

ETA: Oh, and let’s not forget to add slave-trading to the list.

Just as the Christian churches now bear little resemblance to whatever was going on in Palestine and then early Rome, so Islam as it exists and is practised today is not merely the reproduction of what Mohammed preached in Arabia, setting aside your ridiculous characterisation.

 

[burtabraham]

Just as the Christian churches now bear little resemblance to whatever was going on in Palestine and then early Rome, so Islam as it exists and is practised today is not merely the reproduction of what Mohammed preached in Arabia, setting aside your ridiculous characterisation.

How is it ridiculous? Just describing you the historical facts about the man who founded this religion - a man that Muslims are expected to take as a model for all time.

 

[xenon]

So we're discussing Islam on a thread about a murderer who is not Muslim, did not commit crimes in the name of Islam but yet due to misinformation being spread, caused riots and attacks against ordinary Islamic people.

Fuck off burtabraham you stirring ghool.

 

[ddraig]

Yeah but he knows da troof! *Taps nose

 

[editor]

Islam isn’t a race. Anyone can convert regardless of their race. It’s an ideology. One that if taken seriously is a form of genuine fascism. The fact that there are nice Muslims is irrelevant. It’s not Muslims that are the problem, it’s Islam.

So how about Christianity in all its enslaving, invading, asset stripping, homophobic glory? Is that one alright with you?

 

[teqniq]

Islam isn’t a race. Anyone can convert regardless of their race. It’s an ideology. One that if taken seriously is a form of genuine fascism. The fact that there are nice Muslims is irrelevant. It’s not Muslims that are the problem, it’s Islam.

You are properly spouting ignorant bollox here.

 

[editor]

Muhammad - a misogynistic, homophobic, antisemitic, racist, paedophilic, Jihad waging, genocidal war lord. But people criticising his religion are the problem. Yeah right!

ETA: Oh, and let’s not forget to add slave-trading to the list.

You realise all of those words could be used to describe many followers of the Christian faith, right?

 

[A380]

Funny in 2010, before it came to light that tens of thousands of girls have been groomed, raped, tortured, and in some cases murdered by actual rape gangs who dehumanised their victims on grounds of religion. So maybe you need to think twice about your witty retorts.

Catholic Church? Or C of E dioceses beyond number?

Which actual Religious rape group are you wittering on about?

 

[Red Cat]

Why bother? Just ban him.

 

[burtabraham]

So how about Christianity in all its enslaving, invading, asset stripping, homophobic glory? Is that one alright with you?

When a Christian does those things they go against the teachings and example of Jesus. When a Muslim does those things they are following the teachings and example of Muhammad.

Fortunately for everyone, most Muslims are better than their prophet.

 

[A380]

Muhammad - a misogynistic, homophobic, antisemitic, racist, paedophilic, Jihad waging, genocidal war lord. But people criticising his religion are the problem. Yeah right!

ETA: Oh, and let’s not forget to add slave-trading to the list.

But we all know that when you say Moslem you actually want to say p*ki. But you know you can’t get away with that anymore.


Lay bets for when this Fash or fash adjacent poster gets banned. I’ll go Friday night.


ETA just red their last crayoning. I’ll change my bet to tea time…

 

[burtabraham]

But we all know that when you say Moslem you actually want to say p*ki. But you know you can’t get away with that anymore.

Lay bets for when this Fash or fash adjacent poster gets banned. I’ll go Friday night.

You wish that was the case. Believing so means you don’t have to question the foundations of your deluded worldview.

 

[A380]

You wish that was the case. Believing so means you don’t have to question the foundations of your deluded worldview.

I bet you wish you could be like Musk and be open about your racism rather than have to pretend.

Fortunately you can’t.

 

[JimW]

How is it ridiculous? Just describing you the historical facts about the man who founded this religion - a man that Muslims are expected to take as a model for all time.

It's more than ridiculous, it's pathetic. A millennia and more, millions of lives lived in dozens of states and societies, but you've read some tendentious lies and know best.

 

[Lotte]

I don’t want to believe; I do believe. And yes, it’s things I’ve heard from people that are inside. At least one person above has confirmed that he is attending prayers, albeit with the suggestion it might be for protection (which is the only half plausible reply given on this thread so far). I don’t know what other evidence I could provide, being that coverups are a standard way the British state operates.

Truth is, we’ve seen time after time that the teachings of Islam have led to the slaughter of innocents, and we continue to stick our head in the sand. How many more people have to be stabbed, blown up at pop concerts , raped or killed before we realise that it is the religion itself that is the problem?

Have you seen what Israel is doing? Do I deserve to be punished because of Bibi or IDF soldiers who murder civilians? Because that's the kind of mentality you have. ISIS have killed more Muslims than non-Muslims.

You are so determined for Rudakubana to be Muslim, aren't you. As if it would somehow make the murder of three little girls better if he was Jewish or Christian. It's not the fact he murdered three little girls, it's the fact that he's one of THOSE people. He has nothing to do with grooming gangs so I have no idea why you're bringing them into his thread.

 

[Coffeecup]

Muhammad - a misogynistic, homophobic, antisemitic, racist, paedophilic, Jihad waging, genocidal war lord. But people criticising his religion are the problem. Yeah right!

ETA: Oh, and let’s not forget to add slave-trading to the list.

Have you got any evidence of this? Add what you like just produce the evidence please.

 

[Coffeecup]

How is it ridiculous? Just describing you the historical facts about the man who founded this religion - a man that Muslims are expected to take as a model for all time.

Please show the “historical facts” please?

 

[Lotte]

Muhammad - a misogynistic, homophobic, antisemitic, racist, paedophilic, Jihad waging, genocidal war lord. But people criticising his religion are the problem. Yeah right!

ETA: Oh, and let’s not forget to add slave-trading to the list.

See, this is another thing - I don't know if you're Jewish but I am, and gentiles seem to think Jews HAVE to hate Muslims. I don't hate every single Muslim. Yes, some of them are antisemitic, some of them are utter cunts about us, but you know who else is? Christians. I had a Christian colleague who told me to my face that Jews killed Jesus in my last job. I had a Christian man follow me out of synagogue and tell me I'm going to hell. There is a reason why I stick to Jewish pro-Palestine groups. But do gentiles who go on about Muslim antisemitism care about Christian antisemitism? No they fucking don't, loads of you were making excuses for Musk making his Nazi salute. Right-wing twats like you do not care about Jews when it's your own side doing it.

I am so sick of gentiles using us as a stick to beat Muslims with. I wonder if you were one of the people trying to burn innocent people alive in revenge for something that a fucked-up man who had nothing to do with them did.

 

[planetgeli]

Any kid who takes knives into school or breaks another child's arm with a hockey stick should be excluded from mainstream interaction with other children and subject to extremely close supervision, if not some version of incarceration.

I can't let this go. The world is not that black and white Spy.

12 year old achieving boy, sweetest, funniest cutest blond haired boy you've ever seen. But he's 2'6". Has shit parent (singular) and a thing about his height. Wants to fit in at big school. Takes a knife. Tells his mates (they always do) he has a knife. None of them see it, but split on him, bag searched right at the end of school - and that was the end of his mainstream life. Not a psycho. Mild-mannered. Intelligent. But fucking 12. You make mistakes at 12. Looking for acceptance, attachment, where you can't find it anywhere else.

Cost him 4 years with us and a hell of a lot more. Our kids only mix with themselves, or nobody, because they are already outcasts (if we drive by a bunch of mainstream kids when in the mini bus, our kids all scream "normies!" out the window). They don't need ostracizing from the mainstream even more, particularly in the case described. My sweet little (knife carrying) boy is now on the bottom rung of being a career criminal because that's how your plan turns out.

 

[trashpony]

Deserves a lot more financial support than it’s had:

Southport Strong Together Appeal

The Community Foundation for Merseyside, in partnership with Sefton Council and Sefton CVS, has activated an urgent fundraising appeal for all those affected by the knife attack in Southport on 29 July 2024.

www.justgiving.com

 

[PTK]

Truth is, we’ve seen time after time that the teachings of Islam have led to the slaughter of innocents, and we continue to stick our head in the sand.

Islam has been around for about 1,400 years.
Islamist terrorism did not exist before 1950 at all, and very rarely before 1979. What you see as "Islam" is not Islam per se, but a reactionary political doctrine - Islamism - that has gained in popularity with the failure of secularist nationalist and socialist movements to address the injustices inflicted on substantial parts of the Third World by imperialist powers.

 

[burtabraham]

, this is another thing - I don't know if you're Jewish but I am, and gentiles seem to think Jews HAVE to hate Muslims. I don't hate every single Muslim. Yes, some of them are antisemitic, some of them are utter cunts about us, but you know who else is? Christians. I had a Christian colleague who told me to my face that Jews killed Jesus in my last job. I had a Christian man follow me out of synagogue and tell me I'm going to hell. There is a reason why I stick to Jewish pro-Palestine groups. But do gentiles who go on about Muslim antisemitism care about Christian antisemitism? No they fucking don't, loads of you were making excuses for Musk making his Nazi salute. Right-wing twats like you do not care about Jews when it's your own side doing it.

I am so sick of gentiles using us as a stick to beat Muslims with. I wonder if you were one of the people trying to burn innocent people alive in revenge for something that a fucked-up man who had nothing to do with them did.

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Islam has been around for about 1,400 years.
Islamist terrorism did not exist before 1950 at all, and very rarely before 1979. What you see as "Islam" is a reationary political doctrine that has gained in popularity with the failure of secularist nationalist and socialist movements to address the injustices inflicted on substantial parts of the Third World by imperialist powers.

Define Islamist

 

[burtabraham]

No idea what I did with the quote function there

 

[Spymaster]

Islam has been around for about 1,400 years.
Islamist terrorism did not exist before 1950 at all, and very rarely before 1979. What you see as "Islam" is not Islam per se, but a reactionary political doctrine - Islamism - that has gained in popularity with the failure of secularist nationalist and socialist movements to address the injustices inflicted on substantial parts of the Third World by imperialist powers.

And?

Even if that were true, so what?

 

[PTK]

Yeah because everybody lives near, or can easily travel to shops with an extensive range of kitchen and camping ware.

The easiest way to determine if the person buying the knife was under age would be to require knives to be purchased in person.
I also think that it should not be legal to buy poisons or potential explosives by mail order (or "online" as they say today).

 

[klang]

Who is this burtabraham cunt?

 

[PTK]

And?

Even if that were true, so what?

So, it is false to claim that Islam as a religion is to blame for these actions.