Mass stabbing at Southport Kids’ Club 29/7/24

[Karl Masks]

So the suspect has now been named.

UK riots latest: Thousands take part in anti-racism protests; petrol bomb thrown at mosque in 'racially motivated' incident

Police are on high alert this weekend amid concerns over more disorder breaking out as protests take place across the country. In Northern Ireland, police are investigating a "racially motivated" attack on a mosque.

news.sky.com

He turns 18 in just six days time so it seems largely academic as it would've come out anyway next week. I wonder however if his sentence will be any different had he committed the killings after he turned 18? Presumably, unless there's some mental health issues at play, he would be tried and sentenced as an adult but I don't know how the law works.

There must be mental health issues. I cannot concieve of any 'rational' plan to do something like this if it isn't terror related or meant to advance some cause

 

[GarveyLives]

So the suspect has now been named.

UK riots latest: Thousands take part in anti-racism protests; petrol bomb thrown at mosque in 'racially motivated' incident

Police are on high alert this weekend amid concerns over more disorder breaking out as protests take place across the country. In Northern Ireland, police are investigating a "racially motivated" attack on a mosque.

news.sky.com

He turns 18 in just six days time so it seems largely academic as it would've come out anyway next week. I wonder however if his sentence will be any different had he committed the killings after he turned 18? Presumably, unless there's some mental health issues at play, he would be tried and sentenced as an adult but I don't know how the law works.

Here is how the law operated in a different case.

 

[A380]

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That will never get old.

 

[Spymaster]

Here is how the law operated in a different case.

What point are you trying to make?

Sky's link is about the naming of a suspect, yours is about sentencing of convicts.

 

[rasputin]

Here is how the law operated in a different case.

Perhaps I'm being slow, but where is the comparison between the two cases?

Your link is to a blog that discusses the prohibition, under ECHR, of retrospective punishment when sentencing.

Not applicable to the current case, which hasn't been tried yet, surely?

 

[chandlerp]

If you’re worried about England disappearing, maybe learn the language. It’s “there”.

Will their even be an England next year?

 

[Rob Ray]

I'm more worried about this, which appears to be Starmer going full authoritarian wet dream about surveillance of dissent:

Far-right riots: Keir Starmer announces new violent disorder unit

PM and police agree plan to boost intelligence gathering as social media firms told to clamp down on misinformation

www.theguardian.com

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I'm more worried about this, which appears to be Starmer going full authoritarian wet dream about surveillance of dissent:

Far-right riots: Keir Starmer announces new violent disorder unit

PM and police agree plan to boost intelligence gathering as social media firms told to clamp down on misinformation

www.theguardian.com

Yes, I suspected and feared an authoritarian streak in Starmer. It's not taken him long.

 

[Spymaster]

Yes, I suspected and feared an authoritarian streak in Starmer.

Maybe he's ok after all.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Maybe he's ok after all.

Should start looking into the Freemasons...

 

[Pickman's model]

Will their even be an England next year?

there'll always be an england

 

[Spymaster]

Should start looking into the Freemasons...

I think he is one.

 

[Pickman's model]

Should start looking into the Freemasons...

he's a member of the same lodge as one of the more prominent urbs

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes, I suspected and feared an authoritarian streak in Starmer. It's not taken him long.

i'm surprised that you didn't realise it already, after the way he's led the labour party for the past 4 years

 

[HeAthen]

i'm surprised that you didn't realise it already, after the way he's led the labour party for the past 4 years

Yep, it's always been pretty visible.

 

[barlimo]

There must be mental health issues. I cannot concieve of any 'rational' plan to do something like this if it isn't terror related or meant to advance some cause

I'm more worried about this, which appears to be Starmer going full authoritarian wet dream about surveillance of dissent:

Far-right riots: Keir Starmer announces new violent disorder unit

PM and police agree plan to boost intelligence gathering as social media firms told to clamp down on misinformation

www.theguardian.com

i'm surprised that you didn't realise it already, after the way he's led the labour party for the past 4 years

Yes he should just sit on his arse and let mildness mobs run riot.

Are you insane!

 

[Saul Goodman]

Yes he should just sit on his arse and let mildness mobs run riot.

Sounds like something Neil from the young ones would be attending.

 

[Karl Masks]

Were it not for the riots, would the judge have released this guy's name?

 

[Plumdaff]

Were it not for the riots, would the judge have released this guy's name?

Were it not for the riots, it would have remained secret for another six days.

 

[Rob Ray]

Yes he should just sit on his arse and let mildness mobs run riot.

Are you insane!

Are you? Do you seriously think the police lack powers to deal with rioters already? Try using your brain rather than charging around like a headless chicken demanding your own rights be taken away because a handful of unpleasant twats threw a tantrum.

 

[cesare]

Yes he should just sit on his arse and let mildness mobs run riot.

Are you insane!

We have ourselves an urban trump

 

[barlimo]

Are you? Do you seriously think the police lack powers to deal with rioters already? Try using your brain rather than charging around like a headless chicken demanding your own rights be taken away because a handful of unpleasant twats threw a tantrum.

I see - you don't mind the odd riot as long as it's not on your doorstep and since I'm not planning or organising a riot I'm not unduly worried about Starmer.

 

[Pickman's model]

Were it not for the riots, would the judge have released this guy's name?

What I like about you is you never miss a chance to show what a fuckwit you are

 

[story]

This is the problem with the Left.

Mildness mobs will never make sufficient headway against the Riotous Right.

 

[Pickman's model]

We have ourselves an urban trump

yes, every time he posts we hear a great trump

 

[neonwilderness]

We have ourselves an urban trump

Make Urban Great Again

 

[barlimo]

We have ourselves an urban trump

Wasn't it Trump who urged another mindless mob to march on Washington?

 

[Rob Ray]

I see - you don't mind the odd riot as long as it's not on your doorstep and since I'm not planning or organising a riot I'm not unduly worried about Starmer.

It's not a matter of "minding," it's a matter of not brainlessly encouraging one shitty situation to be exploited to create another one. As for "since I'm not planning" - yeah says it all that. "Not on your doorstep" indeed. As someone who was, along with countless others, recently declared an extremist by Lord Chalfont for the crime of being an anarchist, and is now watching Starmer basically tell the Metropolitan "spycop" Police it can do what it likes, fuck you very much.

 

[cesare]

Wasn't it Trump who urged another mindless mob to march on Washington?

Well remembered.

 

[extra dry]

Just noting a thought, but of course there will still be an England next year.

Its very concerning the shear number of riots breaking out, something like five cities now?