But that isn't the accusation. It's that money from Israel supporting donors is the same thing as money from the state. Which is just wrong. Furthermore, they are claiming that it is the money that is doing the corrupting - so the argument does apply to unions.
That's interesting.
That worked well for them.
Yes, there was a period when it all seemed to be going to plan but push back no doubt part of what brought Xi's faction to power.
tbf to the activist, the recordings and transcript don't suggest that was her accusation at all; she implied a direct funding & sponsorship from the state of Israel. i assume she was thinking of the Joan Ryan sting tape etc?
She did. I doubt she was thinking of the Ryan 'sting' (it wasn't actually a sting at all, just an embarrassing recording) as that did not imply any direst state funding. Or maybe she was and was misremembering it, as many do. The direct evidence of direct Israeli state interference was very small and consisted of one junior employee. Joan Ryan doesn't support Israel cos it's a way of getting herself some money. She does so because thats her politics.
Yes, maybe 'sting' was not completely correct as the meeting filmed was not fabricated to incriminate any of the participants; it was merely a covertly filmed meeting. Now you're making me if I've mis-remembered it; wasn't it about an Israeli embassy employee telling her that there was £1M of Israeli state money available to set up a student LFI? If so, that does sound very much direct state funding, tbh.
Were you expecting a formal confirmation from the Israeli state?
A tad more than one bloke claiming something vague. A student LFI never even got set up, did it?
There are not just claims but facts: the Al jazeera Labour files
The vilest thing about Mason is he responds to her cricism of Zionism by saying you mean Jews don’t you. A despicable slur.
I think if it had the party might have found it harder to whitewash any investigation/inquiry aside, as it did.
So, you agree its a weak piece of evidence. For something that I'd suspect many states do.
No really; bloke said it and it was recorded for all to see/hear.
I've got a big to sell, if you're interested.
Yeah, fair; the only evidence I've seen is the evidence presented in the programme. Are you saying you've seen other evidence to suggest it was AI?
See, this is why bringing it up is pointless. People convinced of something (that may well be right) will grasp at the thinnest of evidence and proclaim it is proof when it is nothing of the kind. The fact that there was a video is the only thing that made it 'evidence' at all. Otherwise it would just be hearsay. But there is nothing to indicate the speaker actually had the power to back his statements up, no evidence that there was any money in the first place, still less that it was going to come from The State (rather than, say, other friendly donors). There is zero evidence that he wasn't just some minor official trying to impress a visiting politician.
I suggest you read Asa Winstanleys book Weaponising Anti-Semitism. It is chock full of evidence
But not evidence that the reason for the LP's attitude was because of Israeli money, which is the allegation under discussion.
The book outlines a long term strategy to reverse anti-zionism. Have you read it? When I finished it almost made me physically sick it is that powerful
By Zionists I mean supporters of Israel. Nothing more
Was he? He supported Corbyn's policy, but that wasn't BDS, it was simply stopping arms sales (a pretty big difference from today, for sure, but not BDS).
