London Anarchist Bookfair 2022

[LDC]

"The whole thing barely would have raised eyebrows at a Wetherspoons any Friday night. "

Is this true ? tbh I have never seen too much trouble in Weatherspoons on a Friday night. 4 o'clock on a Thursday /Friday afternoon after an all day session yes and weirdly once after a wedding but rarely on a Friday night. Neither the AF or ACG were involved btw.

Read a bit sneery to me that line in the article about Weatherspoons tbh.

 

[Pickman's model]

So the anarchist bookfair in its current carnation allows sales of magazines defending Tara Flick Wolf but doesn’t allow the ACG - and let’s not pretend the shitty treatment the ACG have been dealing with (for a while now) isn’t linked to the fall out around the time of the Hyde park incident.

So much of the malaise afflicting the anarchist movement can be traced back to the hyde park incident

 

[The39thStep]

Read a bit sneery to me that line tbh.

Your joking surely? I've consistently defended Weatherspoons on here over the years .

 

[Pickman's model]

Your joking surely? I've consistently defended Weatherspoons on here over the years .

For shame

 

[LDC]

Your joking surely? I've consistently defended Weatherspoons on here over the years .

Not yr post, the line in the article. Like a slight dig at Weatherspoons being rough and there always being trouble there. (Have edited my post to try and make clearer.)

 

[The39thStep]

Not yr post, the line in the article. Like a slight dig at Weatherspoons being rough and there always being trouble there. (Have edited my post to try and make clearer.)

Yes I agree .Sort of line that would have been written by someone who would never dream of stepping into Weatherspoons at any time of the day .

 

[hitmouse]

The anarchist movement really is in a dire state if they're letting people who don't drink in Wetherspoons write for Freedom nowdays. Whatever happened to our time-honoured institutions?

 

[The39thStep]

London ACG applied for a stall some time ago, and since, radio silence like last year. Not even a "disinclined".

I think the ACG as a whole, not just the London lodge , have a lot to learn from groups like Skaters Against the War . You only get out what you put into the anarchist scene imo

 

[danny la rouge]

It's a reference to an altercation that happened in September 2017, that was not entirely unconnected to the later kerfuffle at that year's bookfair:

De-TERFing Speaker's Corner - Freedom News

[CW for violence; descriptions of trans misogyny; racism] Over two and a half years have passed since a confrontation at Hyde Park Corner between trans protestors and a group of transphobes. The incident resulted in the persecution of Tara Wolf by both the state and the transphobes themselves...

freedomnews.org.uk

I don't know what conversations may have happened about it within the AF in 2017, but since the ACG was founded in 2018 and, afaik, have never made any comment on the case, it'd be a bit weird to base a decision about giving them a stall on their perceived attitudes to that incident?

I wasn't aware of these, and I'm not aware of the people involved.

 

[DaveCinzano]

I wasn't aware of these, and I'm not aware of the people involved.

Ignorance is no defence at the People's Tribunal

 

[danny la rouge]

Ignorance is no defence at the People's Tribunal

Fuck vanguards.

 

[hitmouse]

I wasn't aware of these, and I'm not aware of the people involved.

Yeah, I struggle to see the connection between Hyde Park and the ACG myself, but then maybe things look different from London?

 

[danny la rouge]

Yeah, I struggle to see the connection between Hyde Park and the ACG myself, but then maybe things look different from London?

(Some) people in London can often be very parochial and provincial.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Fuck vans.

 

[danny la rouge]

This conversation seems to have run away from me, as is often the case.

Since I appear to be getting into hot water, I should say, in fairness to my comrades in the ACG, that I have had to discontinue my membership for personal reasons, and I do not speak for them in the matter of sex with vehicles, dogging, any other fetishes, or indeed the relevance of events in or around Hyde Park, from the open air Stones gig to the present day.

To my knowledge, I was once in Hyde Park in the early 80s. I don't think I have been there since.

 

[A380]

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That's really offensive.

It's obviously not a van but an early series Range Rover. Besides the quote was 'fuck vanguards' so the picture should have been of

But this kind of puerile schoolboy humour has no place on a serious thread like this one. Next you will be writing of the man who got burnt trying to have sex with a Princess. For shame DaveCinzano , for shame.

 

[DaveCinzano]

That's really offensive.

It's obviously not a van but an early series Range Rover. Besides the quote was 'fuck vanguards' so the picture should have been of View attachment 336421

But this kind of puerile schoolboy humour has no place on a serious thread like this one. Next you will be writing of the man who got burnt trying to have sex with a Princess. Foe shame DaveCinzano , for shame.

I work with the raw materials I have - if you would permit me - to hand, so mea culpa

 

[The39thStep]

I wasn't aware of these, and I'm not aware of the people involved.

You were in Weatherspoons at the time sort of defence ?

 

[danny la rouge]

You were in Weatherspoons at the time sort of defence ?

I was elsewhere in the world sort of defence. I've been in London around 4 or 5 times in my lifetime. I have never attended a London bookfair, anarchist or otherwise.

I did visit Marx's grave on one visit, though.

 

[The39thStep]

Tbh I can’t work out this thing in Hyde Park

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

I was elsewhere in the world sort of defence. I've been in London around 4 or 5 times in my lifetime. I have never attended a London bookfair, anarchist or otherwise.

I did visit Marx's grave on one visit, though.

Marx is buried next to my grandparents, reactionary Irish Catholics, who would turn in their graves (where else?) if they knew their proximity to Karl.

 

[The39thStep]

Marx is buried next to my grandparents, reactionary Irish Catholics, who would turn in their graves (where else?) if they knew their proximity to Karl.

He died in 1883. When did your grandparents pass away ? How old are you ? Is there a history of cryonics in your family ?

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

He died in 1883. When did your grandparents pass away ? How old are you ? Is there a history of cryonics in your family ?

That's a lot of questions. However, last time I checked it was quite normal for people of all ages (at time of death) to be buried in the same cemetery and not necessarily in chronological order.

 

[hitmouse]

That's a lot of questions. However, last time I checked it was quite normal for people of all ages (at time of death) to be buried in the same cemetery and not necessarily in chronological order.

Asking a lot of questions is the anarchist bookfair thread way, your answers will be recorded and entered into an mysterious matrix that may affect your credit score and/or ability to get a table at the bookfair.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Asking a lot of questions is the anarchist bookfair thread way, your answers will be recorded and entered into an mysterious matrix that may affect your credit score and/or ability to get a table at the bookfair.

I fully expect to be offered a table, as I haven't asked for one. That's where ACG get it wrong, they try too hard.

 

[The39thStep]

That's a lot of questions. However, last time I checked it was quite normal for people of all ages (at time of death) to be buried in the same cemetery and not necessarily in chronological order.

Ah . Thanks , that explains some of it . Ok ignore the first two and come straight to the point about the third issue

 

[planetgeli]

Anyone with a spare £18,000 (most expensive in the UK) can be buried in Highgate if a plot is available.

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

Is there a history of cryonics in your family?

Hang on. I'll just thaw one of them out and ask them?

 

[The39thStep]

Anyone with a spare £18,000 (most expensive in the UK) can be buried in Highgate if a plot is available.

I'll bag a couple first thing tomorrow.

 

[8ball]

(Some) people in London can often be very parochial and provincial.

Yeah, some will even make eye contact on the Tube. They’re usually just visiting, though.