London Anarchist bookfair 2020

[danny la rouge]

Well this has all taken a rather flattering turn.

I’m calling you disorganised. You got that, right?

 

[The39thStep]

Send in the biffer

 

[Fozzie Bear]

I’m calling you disorganised. You got that, right?

You’ll have to speak up, I’m very old!

 

[Wilf]

To be fair, Rhyddical did say:

We applied for a stall. Therefore he doesn’t think we are by our nature transphobic.

Yeah, I should have included that. There was a hint of 'all men are mortal...' in there. Anyway, the mystery deepens and the only way to find out is turn up on the day and go for a pint.

 

[The39thStep]

“I’m getting mixed signals, mixed signals
Mixed, mixed, mixed signals

At first she said: "Your call is very important to us"
And then she said: "Please hold, Please hold."
Then she said: "Your call is very important to us"
And then she said: "Please hold. Please hold."

Sparks

 

[Wilf]

Hang on, 'turn up on the day, you'll find out some vital information and drink will be served', it's a timeshare scam!

 

[Pickman's model]

Reasons you may not be informed

Need to know basis, Reggie, Top Secret, I'm sure you understand

I'm looking forward to 'the truth? you can't handle the truth!'

 

[danny la rouge]

Yeah, I should have included that. There was a hint of 'all men are mortal...' in there. Anyway, the mystery deepens and the only way to find out is turn up on the day and go for a pint.

I’m lost now. Who is Malatesta and who is Socrates?

I’d go for a pint with the crew, but I’m unlikely to be in London. If they’re in Glasgow they should give me a shout.

 

[hitmouse]

Hang on, 'turn up on the day, you'll find out some vital information and drink will be served', it's a timeshare scam!

"Will you walk into my Wetherspoons?" said the spider to the fly;
"'Tis the prettiest little Wetherspoons that ever you may spy."

 

[Pickman's model]

Can the ACG have a stall?
- Silence
You might have missed the email, can the ACG have a stall?
- Silence
Really, can we have a stall?
- Blather, blather, something about masks and ant-vaxxers
Yeah, but our stall?
- 'Look, Look, Here's a list of people who have got a stall?
So, are you saying the ACG have been refused because they are transphobic
- Some other groups couldn't have a stall due to space/Covid
Yeah, but do you have any evidence that the ACG are transphobic?
- You need to be comradely and trust us....
But...
WE AREN'T TELLING YOU!

Poetry thread >>>>>

 

[Wilf]

Poetry thread >>>>>

Pam Ayres does the London Bookfair.

 

[danny la rouge]

"Will you walk into my Wetherspoons?" said the spider to the fly;
"'Tis the prettiest little Wetherspoons that ever you may spy."

I bet they’re asleep in New York. I’ll bet they’re asleep all over America.

 

[LDC]

Feels a bit like some weird gaslighting thing.

They ignore emails and ignore answering a simple question. Both repeatedly.

Then come out with some 'Stop speculating, go and chill out, you're all being unreasonable' thing.

 

[Athos]

Reading through this thread a bit more fully. Christ alive the presumption and speculation. Seems mostly geared towards being angry at your own speculation and them getting annoyed at someone who is politely respond where they are able. I'm sorry if you feel offended that I'm not able/keen to provide you with answers to every query, I mean just accept that there maybe things you are not aware about and reasons you might not be informed about it.

For what it's worth, we received the email from Angry Workers and they'll be responded to accordingly, our next meeting is on Wednesday so I guess after that.

This animosity is entirely one sided, I've not said a single thing about what a big chunk of thread are reaching to imply, I also know for a fact that certain people on this thread have entirely the wrong end of this stick after some unrelated twitter beefing I got dragged into and are acting in an ill-informed and perhaps even consciously bad faith manner. Sure my manner is glib at times, I blame a lack of tea in my life making my a bit salty. Me no ones perfect and I'm certainly no Malatesta lol.

As Anarchists, we should respond to the things we KNOW, not just a culmative pile of idle gossip.

The lack of trust in your comrades is deeply disheartening and many people on the thread need to learn to just accept that they might not be informed and there are things that people can't/won't post of random threads on the internet.

The ONLY reason I am here is because I actually have respect for people in the thread and for 70 pages I've been walking a thin line of providing information while dealing with made up bullshit designed to undermine comrades you'd be better reaching out towards and working with.

U75 is just one a many random forums and tho the bantz are fucking on point, it's also a lot of labour and frankly I'm tired of taking flak personally for such the guff in some of your fantasy lives.

I know I'm just some random glib chatter on a thread to most of you, change that. Come meet me and the rest of the Bookfair crew, have some fucking human interaction and realise that shit on the internet isn't always what it seems. We are your fucking comrades and it'd be nice if you had a little mutual respect and a degree of understanding when things occour that you ain't privy too. Truly, if you give a fuck, come down, enjoy bookfair, tell us what we can do better for the following years, join us for a pint afterwords, put your pointless hostility in the bin where it belongs.

Either way, stop winding yourselves up with speculation.

I'm here for questions about bookfair, I'll answer what I can, there are many things that I won't be going into. Live with it x

Oh, please. This is completely disingenous.

Of course people are going to examine your actions as organisers; if you don't like accountability, you shouldn't seek out positions of power.

As the custodians (for now) of one of the most significant events in the anarchist calendar you owe it to the community to explain why you have exluded a significant number of well-respected anarchists (even if that's only in the most general terms), or, at the very least, to explain why you can't. To repeatedly and pointedly refuse to address straightforward and legitimate questions (on here or via email) is a deliberate 'fuck you', which makes your faux-comradely invitation to share a pint all the more hypocritical.

And to impliedly smear anarchists as transphobes without being willing to stand behind the accusation is cowardly, to boot.

 

[LDC]

Anyway, solidarity to the ACG. I love you - even if your pamphlets look like something designed in 1990. (Or maybe was that 1890...)

 

[The39thStep]

Rhyddical In terms of “Come meet me and the rest of the Bookfair crew, have some fucking human interaction and realise that shit on the internet isn't always what it seems.”

I emailed the organising group about attending their meeting when the initial invites went out way back when. Never heard back…

Which is fine. I’m not a well respected national anarchist org.

But you do seem to have an engagement issue.

That what they said when Northern Ireland’s leading anarchist was cruelly attacked at the Bookfair by those smelling of cheap cider

 

[danny la rouge]

Anyway, solidarity to the ACG. I love you - even if your pamphlets look like something designed in 1990. (Or maybe was that 1890...)

That modern.

 

[hitmouse]

I bet they’re asleep in New York. I’ll bet they’re asleep all over America.

Had to look that one up, I think I have seen it once but it was quite a while ago. Uh, forget it Jake, it's the New Improved London Anarchist Bookfair?

 

[Dom Traynor]

Anyway, solidarity to the ACG. I love you - even if your pamphlets look like something designed in 1990. (Or maybe was that 1890...)

They've got PDFs!

 

[LDC]

Twitch isn't just something that happens when we miss our medication I hear.

 

[danny la rouge]

Twitch isn't just something that happens when we miss our medication I hear.

I had to do a search. It’s videos of people playing computer games!

 

[brogdale]

OK, apologies all...not been following the thread properly, (so please ignore if you think I'm being a lazy bastard), but a quick question...why might anyone organising the book fair think that the ACG are dodgy wrt trans?

 

[danny la rouge]

OK, apologies all...not been following the thread properly, (so please ignore if you think I'm being a lazy bastard), but a quick question...why might anyone organising the book fair think that the ACG are dodgy wrt trans?

They wouldn’t.

 

[brogdale]

They wouldn’t.

I see...or not, as the case may be.

 

[charlie mowbray]

So, after quite a few pages, no direct response as to why the ACG has been excluded.

 

[brogdale]

Quite a mystery this, then?

 

[Kevbad the Bad]

I think it's good that the new bookfair has a policy against transphobia, and if Women's Place, Mayday for Women, LGB Alliance or any similar clowns applied for stalls I think you should tell them to fuck off.

All those groups you mention aren't anarchist organisations, so any organisers would be unlikely to consider allowing them a stall. It would be good, though, to have an agreed definition of transphobia, rather than just a word with multiple potential definitions hanging off of it.

 

[DaveCinzano]

Have we had "the bookfair collective cannot comment on individual cases" yet?

Neither Confirm Nor Deny

 

[The39thStep]

Quite a mystery this, then?

Man coming to terms with late onset anarchism meets anarchists

 

[planetgeli]

So, after quite a few pages, no direct response as to why the ACG has been excluded.

This much we know...