It's a hilariously self contradictory mess of a sentence. Which manages to expose that to Rhydiccal only the people on the right side have the right to a "universal" opinion.
London Anarchist bookfair 2020
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It's a hilariously self contradictory mess of a sentence. Which manages to expose that to Rhydiccal only the people on the right side have the right to a "universal" opinion.
Stonewall submitted a statement to the Women and Equalities Select Committee on Transgender Equality calling for a review of the Equality Act 2010, including "remov[ing] exemptions, such as access to single-sex spaces".
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
as indeed noted earlier and responded to at length. That does not equate to 'in all circumstances, without any exceptions'
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
I would do this crazy thing of trusting trained, committed and experienced workers to recognise when someone is not acting in a manner conducive to the good of the group. We don't need strict laws and regulations to map out every possibility. Everyone should, and can, be found a way to be given support. It's an insult to the workers (women in the overwhelming majority) who provide such services to say that they are incapable of making such judgement calls. They already do it most days.
On a thread about an Anarchist Bookfair, to be demanding ever more stringent and codified rules seems a bit bizarre. So I'll leave it there.
Athos
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Admission to single-sex spaces is contingent on sex, not just how someone is acting! If you belive in effective single-sex spaces (do you, by the way?), it follows that you need an efffective way to establish sex. Where someone is refusing to disclose their sex, or even lying about it, are you saying that those responsible for those spaces can and should establish sex entirely on looks? If not, how do you propse they do it?
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belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
admission to ALL non-public spaces is contingent on how you are acting. Every single one. No woman, cis or trans, can just rock up to a refuge and demand entry. You are talking utter nonsense. Probably on purpose. But, as I said, I'm done on this topic on this thread as everyone else has more pressing concerns about the event.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i hear that admission to a prison generally not on a voluntary basis either
Athos
Well-Known Member
Pure sophistry.
I find it hard to believe you didn't understand what I meant, but have added the word 'just' to the original post, to be certain.
To be clear: Conduct is a necessary condition for entry, but not a sufficient one. Of course a woman who was acting dangerously wouldn't be admitted, but, also, a man who was acting entirely reasonably wouldn't be admitted.
You can't seriously be suggesting that sex isn't a condition of entry to single sex-spaces. Can you?
That sex is a condition of entry to single-sex spaces means that, if you believe in effective single-sex spaces (do you, by the way?), you need an effective way to establish sex. How should that be done (in addition to, rather than instead of, assessing e.g. how someone is acting)? Visually? Checking paperwork?
Please don't duck this.
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Fozzie Bear
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what’s good is that we will all have way more time to argue about who can access what spaces when we are on lockdown and the army is on the streets.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Many of us will never before have had such opportunities for posting
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Many of us will never before have had such opportunities for posting
...but you won't be at work
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
I'm stíll getting paid, so still posting on the boss's dime...but you won't be at work
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
imposs1904
Thread Killa'
Just a PSA: if you survived past Anarchist Bookfairs' at Conway Hall, you can survive the CoronaVirus.
You got this.
You got this.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
When there always seemed to be a fight.
Rhyddical
May or may not look sexy in Hi Vis.
... and people say we're not trying to live up the traditions of the Anarchist bookfair ;p
I mean the thread only covers one point of contention. Anarchists are a passionate and somewhat over zealous bunch, whatever generation or school you hereld from.
It's part of the reason I love the movement and greatly enjoy the comrades in it, even the ones I'm having a bluey with.
At one point that was always with police
The fight traditionally used to be with the police rather than each other.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Tbh far more often personal differences rather than ideological or with cops
Rhyddical
May or may not look sexy in Hi Vis.
While we'd rather the police get their noses out of it, in my experience nothing unifies comrades like remembering who our shared enemy is.
Perhaps by the end of the Corvid 19 crisis we'll all be on better terms and understanding and we'll manage to hold an event with the mutual aid and solidarity of y'all.
We are certainly not the reactionary liberal authoritarians some would paint us, this I can promise
Hope y'all stay safe these next few weeks! Especially those of you in the big smoke.
although I think there is going to be a little more disruption than a few weeks.
ska invita
back on the other side
18 more months of this thread 
charlie mowbray
The Enforcer
Now cancelled until 2021, as has the London Radical Bookfair in August
deeyo
hurled unheard to this world.
Sorry to hear this, though not unexpected. Was thinking of going, if i could get some mates to come along. Probably wouldn't have, but you never know..
been a while.
Last time i was in london at a political meet was class wars international conference sep -91. That was one of the defining moments of my 'political life', its importance to a young born'n'raised communist-gone-anarchist can't be overestimated. Fuelled some ten years of intense political activity and i got to see blaggers ita and chumbawumba live... (if anyone here was there i hope your alright, remember a brother and sister with a 'place of worship-like' surname, who put us up in hackney and a class war healthworker with a viking-name though i think he was from manchester..)
Rhyddical i wish you and yours all the best arranging lab 2021, and if it comes to mean half as much to some young lefties as cwic 91 meant to me and my mates, then you've done good.
see you at the barricades.
Rhyddical
May or may not look sexy in Hi Vis.
Thank you for the thoughts.
Bit of a heads up we are going to be hosting a Digital Anarchist Bookfair on October the 17th this year.
Both Stockholm and Montreal have done similar things and closer to home Afest have organised a similar effort.
We've spoken to several organisations already who seem quite keen and feel it's a good alternative given the situation. We'll be issuing a statement with our intentions and hope you all attend and find it useful.
We have been somewhat silent for a while due to the Mutual Aid activities and subsequently BLM needing to occupy our space and efforts however I would expect that we will be ramping up our media and campaign over the summer.
Bit of a heads up we are going to be hosting a Digital Anarchist Bookfair on October the 17th this year.
Both Stockholm and Montreal have done similar things and closer to home Afest have organised a similar effort.
We've spoken to several organisations already who seem quite keen and feel it's a good alternative given the situation. We'll be issuing a statement with our intentions and hope you all attend and find it useful.
We have been somewhat silent for a while due to the Mutual Aid activities and subsequently BLM needing to occupy our space and efforts however I would expect that we will be ramping up our media and campaign over the summer.
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ska invita
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ska invita
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is this happening? looked on the website and doesnt have any info
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Reckon it's fallen by the wayside
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
There is a fair amount of recent stuff on their Twitter and Instagram. I think the plan is still for a weekend of workshops and talks. No programme yet though.
Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
New website tomorrow appaz-
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