butchersapron
Bring back hanging
They grassed up two communists to the agents (via photos they took for them of demos iirc) who were then killed. Solidarity exposed this clear as day in the 80s.
Libya - civil unrest & now NATO involvement
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They grassed up two communists to the agents (via photos they took for them of demos iirc) who were then killed. Solidarity exposed this clear as day in the 80s.
teqniq
DisMembered
And then there's the IRA, but in their case idolized is probably the wrong word, mutual admiration/the enemy of my enemy is my friend would probably better describe the relationship.
dylans
overlord of all acorns
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
And there was Scargils 'libyan gold' - set up by an NUM official who was alledgely an Mi5 stooge (in an attempt to smear Scargil)
RE: mercenaries - there was some talk on Al j of 'eastern european' mercenaries as well. Fuck knows what to make of it - but clearly there is a level of denial - 'it cant be our fellow libyans doing these terrible things' .
The spectre of black africans running rampage - possibly assisted by russians - is a useful recruiting seargent for the rebels - but obviously dangerous. You really wouldn't want to be a someone with sub-saharan African heritage in Libya right now.
RE: mercenaries - there was some talk on Al j of 'eastern european' mercenaries as well. Fuck knows what to make of it - but clearly there is a level of denial - 'it cant be our fellow libyans doing these terrible things' .
The spectre of black africans running rampage - possibly assisted by russians - is a useful recruiting seargent for the rebels - but obviously dangerous. You really wouldn't want to be a someone with sub-saharan African heritage in Libya right now.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Just for accuracy it was the CPB (M-L); in line with their particular 'nationalist' take on communism.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Oops, apols.
dennisr
the acceptable face
The psyco limb choppers and mass rapists? :-(
The fucker really is an all round "nice guy"
elbows
Well-Known Member
Obviously no way to confirm this right now, but its not the first report of high-up military figures being arrested. We have no clear sense of what has been happening within the military in recent days but if many have turned against Gadaffi then they've somehow done a terrible job of maintaining their own personal security, let alone otherthrow the regime.
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
Can we keep this thread to current events in Libya please
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
Yep, the very same.
I've heard it argued that if it hadn't been for western fear of MG gaining traction in West Africa the SL civil war might have ended years earlier.
E2A: The Green Book was apparently a cult text among the disenfranchised youth of Freetown in the 1970s and 1980s.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Gerry Healy? Why am I not surprised.
Don't turn this
Vital thread into your usual trot gossip please...
Vital thread into your usual trot gossip please...
likesfish
You can't park here sir
remember seeing a video of the Libyans being used as target practice by the french foreign legion in Chad 
drove a classic soviet armored attack into an ambush with Milan anti-tank missiles then dithered while the legionaries fired all their missiles and then fucked off so don't think the Libyan military are great shakes. though you don't need much training or balls to shoot the unarmed.
Qaddafi gave cash to just about every armed group going cash4sociopaths.com
One of the reasons to get him in from the cold cut off weapons and cash for terrorists.
drove a classic soviet armored attack into an ambush with Milan anti-tank missiles then dithered while the legionaries fired all their missiles and then fucked off
so don't think the Libyan military are great shakes. though you don't need much training or balls to shoot the unarmed.Qaddafi gave cash to just about every armed group going cash4sociopaths.com
One of the reasons to get him in from the cold cut off weapons and cash for terrorists.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
More pro Gaddafi idiocy, this time from Lalkar in 1999; this line has been continued in the SLP and latterly in the CPGB (M-L).
Louis MacNeice
p.s. apologies for all the acronyms
Inspired by Gaddaffy's Green book, Libya is run by popular people’s congresses, who elect people’s committees to carry forward the decisions of the people’s congresses. More than 90% of the people participate in the work of the congresses. The Libyan people have rejected the capitalist model of representative democracy in favour of the participatory democracy of the peoples congresses.
Having rid themselves of all the pernicious influence of Western imperialism, they have now established the Great Socialist Libyan Arab peoples Jamahiriya (Jama-hiriya translates as the State of the masses), in which regime all economic relationships have to be based upon collective partnerships. It is clear that thirty years of developing a free, independent socialist Libya has caused fear and consternation in the imperialist camps, particularly American ruling circles, who see in Libya all the dangers for their hegemony of the middle east and Africa, as they do in regard to their other enfant terrible nightmare, Cuba. The real fear they have of tiny Libya is the example it may set to others to throw off the yoke of American imperialism and take the road to independence and socialist construction. Consequently American imperialism has sought to vilify, demonise and isolate Libya and its people.
Having rid themselves of all the pernicious influence of Western imperialism, they have now established the Great Socialist Libyan Arab peoples Jamahiriya (Jama-hiriya translates as the State of the masses), in which regime all economic relationships have to be based upon collective partnerships. It is clear that thirty years of developing a free, independent socialist Libya has caused fear and consternation in the imperialist camps, particularly American ruling circles, who see in Libya all the dangers for their hegemony of the middle east and Africa, as they do in regard to their other enfant terrible nightmare, Cuba. The real fear they have of tiny Libya is the example it may set to others to throw off the yoke of American imperialism and take the road to independence and socialist construction. Consequently American imperialism has sought to vilify, demonise and isolate Libya and its people.
Louis MacNeice
p.s. apologies for all the acronyms
elbows
Well-Known Member
Really need reports from the Fashloum district of Tripoli, which as I understand it is a poor area, one of the first parts of Tripoli where news emerged that people had come out to protest, and mentioned in some of the most disturbing reports about violence yesterday and today (albeit with no useful detail on what exactly was happening there).
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
yep.
True
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Go and quote me personally saying that I find this 'underwhelming'. I was quoting a Sunni Muslim collaegue you. Idiot.
teqniq
DisMembered
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Where have I said that this is a not "revolutionary situation". I haven't. You are a lying toad and a trot to boot.
Secondly please find the post where I say "The US merely rearranging puppets." Again I didn't saying anything of the sort. SWP scum.
elbows
Well-Known Member
It sounds like one of the Libyan pilots who went to Malta is giving some interviews today, I will wait a while for more info rather than quote random twitter translations, but lets just say I'm going to have to keep an open mind on this stuff for now as much remains unclear. ie I cannot completely rule out the pilots having motives for telling a story that is not 100% of the truth.
I hope the journalists that are taking advantage of the Egypt border situation are able to get more news out from the east soon, as I've heard much less from there in last 24 hours than I was expecting considering the apparent fact that that part of the country is free fromthe regime.
I hope the journalists that are taking advantage of the Egypt border situation are able to get more news out from the east soon, as I've heard much less from there in last 24 hours than I was expecting considering the apparent fact that that part of the country is free fromthe regime.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
I don't have the information to make a solid opinion just the same as everyone else on this thread. That includes you btw.
Lemon Eddy
Disliked by dwyer
While I appreciate that he was funding a number of organizations, I thought they viewed him more as a necessary evil than as someone to idolize? More akin to the way that Al Qaeda used to happily accept CIA funding to fight the soviets.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
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