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Libya - civil unrest & now NATO involvement
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Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Im stll shaking my head and chuckling at that diary bollocks Rupert Murdoch is charging the gullible a quid to read . Fucking Hollyoaks has more gritty realism .
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
no he can't
trade with Libya's National Oil Corporation is banned under the un embargo.
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
Interesting channel 4 report on the siege of misrata here:
camouflage
gaslit at scale.
Gaddafi and the Golden Dinar...
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
Reminiscent of Saddams plans for oil for euros .
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
oh , right . That'll stop it . Silly me .
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
Do you think they'll be able to smuggle out oil tankers under the nose of NATO? I think not
Riklet
procrastinación
Been watching some vids n doing some reading, and it seems the Nafusa area in the western mountains is somewhere to keep an eye on... it's been under heavy attack the past few days, and the rebels control various towns in the area, which is more rugged and gives them an advantage as they know the area well. The border post with Tunisia is still open, and weapons must be coming through, because they seem to be fairly well equipped, spotted Milan anti-tank missiles .
Zitan seems to be being blown to pieces at the moment, without much media coverage, and NATO only seem to have realised in about the past day. This area is massively strategically important though I would imagine, due to the Tunisian border being rebel held now, but also the fact the Berbers in the area are autonomous and have been up in arms against the regime If the army in the east cannot crush the town and then gets pushed back, I would imagine the Nafusa area will be the key point where eastern rebel forces push on Tripoli.
At the moment the regime seems to be focusing upon fighting on two fronts, in the Nafusa area and also Misrata, with the rebel front line closer to Benghazi relatively quiet. That suggests to me that his forces are a lot weaker, just as NATO are saying, and that communication difficulties is limiting their effectiveness -- they seem to be shelling towns with GRAD rockets, and using sharp shooters etc, but I think they might crumble in the face of an organised offensive on two fronts, combined with uprisings by rebel groups in urban areas (who I would imagine are just biding their time at the moment). If the rebels can break the sieges and get an organised attack going I can't see the regime holding out, the rebels have semi-decent weaponry now, it's just tactics and organisation which are still developing, and whether they can communicate and coordinate with Benghazi effectively...
Zitan seems to be being blown to pieces at the moment, without much media coverage, and NATO only seem to have realised in about the past day. This area is massively strategically important though I would imagine, due to the Tunisian border being rebel held now, but also the fact the Berbers in the area are autonomous and have been up in arms against the regime If the army in the east cannot crush the town and then gets pushed back, I would imagine the Nafusa area will be the key point where eastern rebel forces push on Tripoli.
At the moment the regime seems to be focusing upon fighting on two fronts, in the Nafusa area and also Misrata, with the rebel front line closer to Benghazi relatively quiet. That suggests to me that his forces are a lot weaker, just as NATO are saying, and that communication difficulties is limiting their effectiveness -- they seem to be shelling towns with GRAD rockets, and using sharp shooters etc, but I think they might crumble in the face of an organised offensive on two fronts, combined with uprisings by rebel groups in urban areas (who I would imagine are just biding their time at the moment). If the rebels can break the sieges and get an organised attack going I can't see the regime holding out, the rebels have semi-decent weaponry now, it's just tactics and organisation which are still developing, and whether they can communicate and coordinate with Benghazi effectively...
Go Contras, eh?
Mug.
Mug.
weltweit
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LIBYA: Alleged gang-rape victim Eman Obeidy flees to Tunisia
Los Angeles Times - 1 hour ago
Eman Obeidy, the Libyan woman who entered the international spotlight after claiming Moammar Kadafi's militiamen gang raped her in March, apparently fled to Tunisia this week. Obeidy told CNN that she crossed the border from Tripoli Thursday with the ...
Los Angeles Times - 1 hour ago
Eman Obeidy, the Libyan woman who entered the international spotlight after claiming Moammar Kadafi's militiamen gang raped her in March, apparently fled to Tunisia this week. Obeidy told CNN that she crossed the border from Tripoli Thursday with the ...
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
With suitable bribery, why not? Iraq sold oil to Turkey and Jordan while they were embargoed. Most people will do anything for money.
Deareg
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It looks like the U.N were to busy engaging in humanitarian bombing and shooting to actually waste any time saving lives.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/09/refugees-libya
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/09/refugees-libya
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
of course people will buy it . All he has to do is knock the price down a bit and very few will ask any questions . The chinese in particular are desperate for the stuff and theyre all over Africa . Where does he think half his neighbours get their oil from ? The north sea ?
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
Chanson d'Algérie Pour le peuple en Libye Libya أغنية من الجزائر لشعب ليبيا
LOL
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
Come on ern sing along
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
On behalf of everybody here on U75 I would like to offer sincere congratulations to the liberation forces who have captured Misrata airport from Gaddafi's dogs of war
Chester Copperpot
Triple stones
The Rebels appear to be making gains across the country in the last few days
weltweit
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Sounds good!
Contra Scum
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
come on sing along ern:
elbows
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I still want to know what day to day living conditions, supplies etc, are like in Tripoli.
Im not going to prentend that this stuff evolved in the way I first thought it would, but for all the mess I still struggle to imagine how Gaddafi can hang on for a far more prolonged period of time, unless he is able to get some of the major pillars of his countries economy going. Libya is very dependant on certain vital imports, does Gaddafi have any supply routes left?
Im not going to prentend that this stuff evolved in the way I first thought it would, but for all the mess I still struggle to imagine how Gaddafi can hang on for a far more prolonged period of time, unless he is able to get some of the major pillars of his countries economy going. Libya is very dependant on certain vital imports, does Gaddafi have any supply routes left?
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
I think I'm pretty much in the same place really...and now there's talk in the US about why the same treatment isn't being applied to Syria. Looks like they've squared the whole war by other means thing pr wise...
Riklet
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Mahmoud Jibril in Washington today, representing the National Transitional Council
on libyafeb17.com there's some tweets sharing his speech or thoughts somewhere, which starts very interestingly, IMO...
Jibril: What's happening in #Libya can't be separated from what's happening in Egypt, Yemen, Syria, etc. #ntc
Jibril: What's taking place is a natural result of globalization that began in the 80s, a new cultural paradigm. #ntc #libya
Jibril: And this trend is irreversible. Freedom of expression, participatory democracy. #ntc #libya
Jibril: Communication is the name of the game. Knowledge is spreading like hell. #ntc #libya
Jibril: Mass communications is going to affect our lives more than ever - access to information, etc.
Jibril: What started on #feb17 was the start of the revolution. #ntc #libya
Jibril: Those kids who took to the streets were peaceful, and they demanded dignity, rights, education, a better future. #ntc #libya
Jibril: It's in the US strategic interest to pay close attention to what's going on. Overall foreign policy should be revisited. #ntc #libya
Jibril: Unemployment exceeds 30% yet there is vast wealth due to oil revenue. There is mass deprivation of the people. #ntc #libya
Jibril: We can be a model not just for the Arab world, but for Africa. Developing real democratic models that can be imitated. #ntc #libya
....
Jibril: We have a depleted commodity. We have only oil, and it won't last forever. We have to think of an alternative economy. #NTC #libya
Jibril: Our future economy must be based on our geographic positioning and in areas we can be competitive in. #NTC #libya
Jibril: We can become a service economy based on knowledge, a new education philosophy. #NTC
Interesting....
on libyafeb17.com there's some tweets sharing his speech or thoughts somewhere, which starts very interestingly, IMO...
Jibril: What's happening in #Libya can't be separated from what's happening in Egypt, Yemen, Syria, etc. #ntc
Jibril: What's taking place is a natural result of globalization that began in the 80s, a new cultural paradigm. #ntc #libya
Jibril: And this trend is irreversible. Freedom of expression, participatory democracy. #ntc #libya
Jibril: Communication is the name of the game. Knowledge is spreading like hell. #ntc #libya
Jibril: Mass communications is going to affect our lives more than ever - access to information, etc.
Jibril: What started on #feb17 was the start of the revolution. #ntc #libya
Jibril: Those kids who took to the streets were peaceful, and they demanded dignity, rights, education, a better future. #ntc #libya
Jibril: It's in the US strategic interest to pay close attention to what's going on. Overall foreign policy should be revisited. #ntc #libya
Jibril: Unemployment exceeds 30% yet there is vast wealth due to oil revenue. There is mass deprivation of the people. #ntc #libya
Jibril: We can be a model not just for the Arab world, but for Africa. Developing real democratic models that can be imitated. #ntc #libya
....
Jibril: We have a depleted commodity. We have only oil, and it won't last forever. We have to think of an alternative economy. #NTC #libya
Jibril: Our future economy must be based on our geographic positioning and in areas we can be competitive in. #NTC #libya
Jibril: We can become a service economy based on knowledge, a new education philosophy. #NTC
Interesting....
LOL
binka
!!!!!!!!!
http://uk.reuters.com/article/2011/05/16/uk-libya-britain-richards-idUKTRE74E16F20110516
cant be that many tanks or arms dumps left so i suppose it makes sense to blow up a few bridges, power stations, water treatment works and maybe a school or two.
cant be that many tanks or arms dumps left so i suppose it makes sense to blow up a few bridges, power stations, water treatment works and maybe a school or two.
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