Letzgo hunting paedos

[Humberto]

Sorry but I think you are a bit touchy. Perhaps you should choose either I'm going to have discussion or I will go to bed.

 

[frogwoman]

i watched a documentary last night about a group of serial killers in australia who apparently began as vigilantes trying to rid the neighbourhood of paedos but quickly went on to targetting people because they were gay, or disabled, or because they just felt like it



its a really interesting documentary, well worth a watch

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowtown_murders

 

[butchersapron]

i watched a documentary last night about a group of serial killers in australia who apparently began as vigilantes trying to rid the neighbourhood of paedos but quickly went on to targetting people because they were gay, or disabled, or because they just felt like it



its a really interesting documentary, well worth a watch

One of them was a cousin of dylans. John Bunting. This is who Snowtown was about.

 

[frogwoman]

shit, didn't know that.

 

[ViolentPanda]

They should be disciplined and persuaded to come back from their iniquity.

"Iniquity"? Calling contact sex offending against children "iniquity" is moralistic bollocks. Persuade people to become rehabilitated from the criminal acts, by all means, but don't introduce morality into the equation. It's unnecessary.

Its a simple choice. Obey and live happily. Disobey and be killed. Much of the anger against them is hypocritical because the victims are ruined in youth and are set on a path.

Your understanding of the psychology of sex offenders and their victims is what is known in sociological circles as "piss-poor".

Just some thoughts take it however you like.

I wouldn't call them thoughts, more the re-selling of tropes that the tabloids have been pumping out for decades.

 

[redsquirrel]

shit, didn't know that.

If you haven't seen it yet, the film BA linked to is definitely worth watching.

 

[Humberto]

"Iniquity"? Calling contact sex offending against children "iniquity" is moralistic bollocks. Persuade people to become rehabilitated from the criminal acts, by all means, but don't introduce morality into the equation. It's unnecessary.

Your understanding of the psychology of sex offenders and their victims is what is known in sociological circles as "piss-poor".

I wouldn't call them thoughts, more the re-selling of tropes that the tabloids have been pumping out for decades.

I take your point but I don't think it is 'moralistic bollocks'. I too class it as 'criminal behaviour' first and foremost but introducing 'morality' into the question seems appropriate if not unnavoidable to me. If they commit a crime they should be punished. If they do it again that should be the end of their opportunities to offend again.

 

[pinkmonkey]

quickly went on to targetting people because they were gay, or disabled, or because they just felt like it

Hmm, I wonder if this is also why the police force end up behaving like cunts - soon as you put yourself in a position like that, then you find you just can't help it? A bit like that famous prison experiment proves? Hmm.

 

[Bernie Gunther]

Not since your dad sawed the handle off and used it for an arsewank.

I strongly recommend that you give this sort of stuff a rest ...

 

[Frances Lengel]

That was days ago. Your strong recommendation's a bit redundant TBH.

 

[butchersapron]

That was days ago. Your strong recommendation's a bit redundant TBH.

Still, worth pointing out again.

 

[ViolentPanda]

I take your point but I don't think it is 'moralistic bollocks'. I too class it as 'criminal behaviour' first and foremost but introducing 'morality' into the question seems appropriate if not unnavoidable to me. If they commit a crime they should be punished. If they do it again that should be the end of their opportunities to offend again.

The state already uses (mostly Judaeo-Christian) morality to inform its' attempts at "justice". It's an approach that hasn't servedthe mass of people very well for at least a thousand years. It has led to quite a few spectacular injustices, though. Morality has been used to justify everything from transportation for minor offences to acts of judicial murder.
Personally, I'm in favour of punishing to fit the crime, a system in which your fantasies about executing paedos for being paedos can't be fulfilled. Me, I'd prefer to fuck up the paedo's life, and make their punishment last a little longer than the walk to the noose.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Hmm, I wonder if this is also why the police force end up behaving like cunts - soon as you put yourself in a position like that, then you find you just can't help it? A bit like that famous prison experiment proves? Hmm.

Stanford didn't prove that people just can't help it, but it did prove that in pressured circumstances, people will do things outside of their normal behaviour - it showed that almost everyone has the potential to be an oppressor if the circumstances are right.

 

[pinkmonkey]

Stanford didn't prove that people just can't help it, but it did prove that in pressured circumstances, people will do things outside of their normal behaviour - it showed that almost everyone has the potential to be an oppressor if the circumstances are right.

So I guess these Letsgo types are really egging each other on? Wonder if they get competitive?

 

[ViolentPanda]

So I guess these Letsgo types are really egging each other on?

From the little I've read up on vigilantism, that certainly seems to be the usual dynamic - generally one or two "alpha" personalities encouraging the subordinate personalities. That, of course, often leads to approval seeking by the subordinate personalities, and can have the effect of causing escalation in how far the vigilantes are willing to go.

Wonder if they get competitive?

It's likely, because the dynamic is based on a hierarchy, and people will compete to establish/retain their place in it.

 

[FNG]

http://spectrumhr.org/?p=1615

"cleavers" and his followers are certainly trying to outdo each other when it comes to new ways to humilliate their victims

 

[Bernie Gunther]

This case was mentioned earlier in the thread.

The killer has just received a life sentence.

A disabled man wrongly accused of being a paedophile was murdered and his body torched in a drunken vigilante attack just days after his killer warned police that he would take the law into his own hands, it emerged today.

Lee James, a father of three young girls, repeatedly stamped on the head of Iranian Bijan Ebrahimi then dragged his dead body one hundred yards and set it alight after an escalating witch-hunt against the innocent man that had seen him branded a "paedo" by a mob outside his front door.

The victim filmed his killer storming his house three days before he was killed when James warned that he was going to "f*ck him up" - but it was Mr Ebrahimi who was arrested when police were called to sort out the dispute on a Bristol estate.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-was-wrongly-outed-as-paedophile-8969034.html

 

[likesfish]

Remember sitting in a pub talking with some tosser who wanted to set up a vigilante organisation turned out he'd done time Well on one it level sounds attractive rapidily degenerates into macho bullshit and hooliganism that gets people hurt or killed. The "hero" in the above article "would do anything for his kids" apart from stop hitting their mother
A lot of powerless angry blokes about looking for an excuse

 

[Frances Lengel]

Still, worth pointing out again.

Me and you, yokelchops, me and you.

 

[bamalama]

yokelchops

 

[thriller]

http://spectrumhr.org/?p=1615

"cleavers" and his followers are certainly trying to outdo each other when it comes to new ways to humilliate their victims

fucking cunts.

 

[butchersapron]

Me and you, yokelchops, me and you.

Try not to paint yourself into a corner frances. You wouldn't want to end up as some sort of performing monkey now would you?

 

[Frances Lengel]

fucking cunts.

assaulted with watermelon

I shouldn't laugh but...

 

[Spymaster]

http://spectrumhr.org/?p=1615

"cleavers" and his followers are certainly trying to outdo each other when it comes to new ways to humilliate their victims

Absolutely no reason whatsoever why these cunts shouldn't be dealt with by flamethrower.

Sickening.

 

[Fez909]

Absolutely no reason whatsoever why these cunts shouldn't be dealt with by flamethrower.

Sickening.

I get that you're angry, but flamethrowers? Seriously?

It does no good to talk like this. They should be dealt with without stooping to their level, or lower in the case of flamethrowers - one of the nastiest weapons invented recently.

 

[Spymaster]

I get that you're angry, but flamethrowers? Seriously?

Yes, flamethrowers. But only after every bone in their bodies have been smashed with bats and the broken limbs shat on and dipped in acid.

Angry doesn't even come close.

It does no good to talk like this. They should be dealt with without stooping to their level, or lower in the case of flamethrowers - one of the nastiest weapons invented recently.

Fuckem.

 

[Johnny Canuck3]

the mob, with a few historical exceptions, is the ultimate justice.

I'm not so keen on the mob.

http://www.americanlynching.com/images/28482.jpg

Self-styled vigilantes attacked the home of a hospital paediatrician after apparently confusing her professional title with the word "paedophile", it emerged yesterday.
Dr Yvette Cloete, a specialist registrar in paediatric medicine at the Royal Gwent hospital in Newport, was forced to flee her house after vandals daubed it with graffiti in the middle of the night.
The word "paedo" was written across the front porch and door of the house she shared with her brother in the village of St Brides, south Wales.
Dr Cloete, 42, confirmed she had left the property after the "distressing" attack. "For the time being I have moved out of the area because when something like this happens you just cannot feel safe in your own home.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2000/aug/30/childprotection.society

A vigilante mob burned down a gipsy camp after an Italian teenager allegedly claimed she had been raped by two Romany men – only to confess later that she had invented the entire story.

The 16-year-old reportedly made up the account to conceal the fact that she had lost her virginity to her Italian boyfriend, but the lie unleashed a chain of events that she could not have foreseen.
She went to the police near her home on the outskirts of Turin late last week to report that she had been raped.
Police officers conducted interviews with dozens of people in the area to try to find witnesses to the supposed attack, and the news of the assault quickly spread.
Up to 500 people staged a peaceful protest march on Saturday in the suburb of Le Vallette but a mob of around 50 peeled off from the rally and headed to a nearby gipsy camp.
As the Romany inhabitants fled, the vigilantes set fire to around 20 makeshift shelters and huts, creating a huge blaze. They threw stones and beat up at least one gipsy man.

Guilt haunts the community where an Iranian eccentric falsely accused of being a paedophile was beaten and burned to death

In a few short months, the area of Brislington has gone from a quiet, nondescript suburb of east Bristol to one of the most notorious neighbourhoods in the country.
It is here that on a sweltering summer night in July, a disabled Iranian man, Bijan Ebrahimi, 44, was attacked, set on fire, and left to burn to death in a front garden.
Mr Ebrahimi met his death at the hands of two of his neighbours, both of whom lived several doors down from him in a block of council maisonettes on Capgrave Crescent.
They wrongly suspected Mr Ebrahimi of being a paedophile. On the night of July 14, a court heard, they decided to “take the law into their own hands”. Mr Ebrahimi was beaten unconscious, dragged into the street, doused in white spirit and set on fire.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...mour-led-a-mob-to-murder-an-innocent-man.html

 

[andysays]

Absolutely no reason whatsoever why these cunts shouldn't be dealt with by flamethrower.

Sickening.

Out of interest, which "cunts" are you referring to here, the cunts who are alleged to be paedophiles, or the cunts who have taken it upon themselves to attack people based on those allegations?

Or are you just lashing out wildly and more or less randomly at any supposed cunts who come into view?

 

[Fez909]

Out of interest, which "cunts" are you referring to here, the cunts who are alleged to be paedophiles, or the cunts who have taken it upon themselves to attack people based on those allegations?

Or are you just lashing out wildly and more or less randomly at any supposed cunts who come into view?

The cunts humiliating the African kid in the video, I think.

 

[andysays]

The cunts humiliating the African kid in the video, I think.

OK, those cunts. That's what I get for not following the thread properly

Still rather an extreme reaction...