Laurence Fox. The twat.

[SpookyFrank]

Yes, you’d expect medics to take such a stance. Matt Hancock on the other hand...

It'll be medics doing the vaccinating, not Hancock.

 

[editor]

I knew that - but was wondering if there was anything (report, more particular conspiracy theory etc.) that might have made it more specific to the 'possibility' of compulsory vaccination for Covid, in the UK.

Like Rutita1 I don't read anti-vax stuff.

I also think that informed questioning of a very quickly developed vaccine is OK (though I would have it, and so would many other people who may be slightly uncomfortable with the speed of its development). It's this fallacy about an enforced vaccine that gets me.

You don't really have to actively read or look for the stuff - it's all over social media with once-relatively normal people reacting and busy 'asking questions' as if compulsory vaccinations are already enshrined in current government policy.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

You don't really have to actively read or look for the stuff - it's all over social media with once-relatively normal people reacting and busy 'asking questions' as if compulsory vaccinations are already enshrined in current government policy.

Hancock is such a cunt that I'm reluctant to give him any breaks, but I am prepared to give him one here. He was very, very far from ruling it in. He just refused to totally rule it out. And given that they haven't really got a proper plan yet, what else could he say? It's a total non-story.

 

[oryx]

You don't really have to actively read or look for the stuff - it's all over social media with once-relatively normal people reacting and busy 'asking questions' as if compulsory vaccinations are already enshrined in current government policy.

Apart from a few WhatsApp groups I don't do social media - I give FB a wide berth and only read Twitter threads where there's a link to something I may be interested in (such as on here).

I've talked to people IRL about Corona and disagreed with some people's viewpoints, but these conversations have mainly been around it being no worse than flu, and why the whole world has had to come to a standstill for something 'that's like flu'. I have got the impression that such people get their news from social media rather than a reliable source.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Hancock is such a cunt that I'm reluctant to give him any breaks, but I am prepared to give him one here. He was very, very far from ruling it in. He just refused to totally rule it out. And given that they haven't really got a proper plan yet, what else could he say? It's a total non-story.

The loons love a non-story though. A simple 'nah, it ain't happening' would have done it. Not like this tory shower have any problem with U-turns anyway.

 

[Lord Camomile]

You don't really have to actively read or look for the stuff - it's all over social media with once-relatively normal people reacting and busy 'asking questions' as if compulsory vaccinations are already enshrined in current government policy.

I have to say, my social media feeds are blissfully absent of most anti-vaxx stuff, ironically save for a couple of NHS groups that are usually dismaying at it but also will have the odd genuine anti-vaxx post every now and again.

 

[Treacle Toes]

I have to say, my social media feeds are blissfully absent of most anti-vaxx stuff, ironically save for a couple of NHS groups that are usually dismaying at it but also will have the odd genuine anti-vaxx post every now and again.

Same here, I don't see any of it unless I go looking for it.

 

[kropotkin]

^ This. It annoys me that the issue of 'forced vaccination' has become so great.

Anyone, feel free to correct me, but there is no history of forced vaccination in this country AFAIK and I'm not aware that a Covid vaccine is likely to be the first.

No, but we can detain people and treat them for tb against their will.

I'm fine with mandatory vaccination if it turns out that's what's needed to confer protection to the vulnerable in my society. You don't have the right to kill other people, in my opinion.

 

[Badgers]

I don't use Facebook because it is Facebook.

On Twotter have seen a couple of their type piggybacking on the back of popular hashtags like footy or whatever. Still less of the loons that the onlyfans and religion peddlers by a long long way.

 

[8ball]

It'll be medics doing the vaccinating, not Hancock.

Well, if you’re implying that asking Hancock anything is a total waste of time, I wouldn’t argue.

 

[andysays]

No, but we can detain people and treat them for tb against their will.

I'm fine with mandatory vaccination if it turns out that's what's needed to confer protection to the vulnerable in my society. You don't have the right to kill other people, in my opinion.

There is however a difference between enforced treatment of someone who already has a disease, whether TB or COVID, and enforcing a vaccination intended to prevent them catching it.

Whatever the medical benefits, mandatory vaccination would, I think, be politically unacceptable.

We (and I mean we as a society, not just a handful of COVID denying nutters) don't even seem to be able to accept shutting non-essential parts of the economy for a few weeks and proper enforcement of wearing masks in public without huge amounts of special pleading about why the rules shouldn't apply to people who claim they're special.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

There is however a difference between enforced treatment of someone who already has a disease, whether TB or COVID, and enforcing a vaccination intended to prevent them catching it.

Whatever the medical benefits, mandatory vaccination would, I think, be politically unacceptable.

We (and I mean we as a society, not just a handful of COVID denying nutters) don't even seem to be able to accept shutting non-essential parts of the economy for a few weeks and proper enforcement of wearing masks in public without huge amounts of special pleading about why the rules shouldn't apply to people who claim they're special.

I don't think that's an absolute, though. Covid has less than 1% mortality rate, perhaps half that now that treatment's improved, and much less than that for younger people. But if it had an 80% mortality rate across age groups as the bubonic plague did during the first pandemics in the Middle Ages, there would be far more inclination to make vaccination compulsory.

There are few absolutes wrt principle here, but I agree with kropotkin that the closest to one would be 'I do not have the right to kill other people' - even by omission, by failing to do something, in this case, submitting to a jab.

 

[8ball]

<shudders>

 

[Pickman's model]

It'll be medics doing the vaccinating, not Hancock.

He should have been sacked 30 mins after being appointed

 

[8ball]

He should have been sacked 30 mins after being appointed

I was not aware of a minimum time limit.

 

[Pickman's model]

I was not aware of a minimum time limit.

Think about it again

 

[keybored]

I like how Lawrence Fox has become such a nobody that he's barely been mentioned for the last two pages on his very own thread.

 

[8ball]

I like how Lawrence Fox has become such a nobody that he's barely been mentioned for the last two pages on his very own thread.

And had his name mis-spelled..

 

[two sheds]

Proves his point - his white middle class viewpoint is being CENSORED

 

[8ball]

Think about it again

I'm finding it hard to drum up the fucks to give tbh.

 

[keybored]

And had his name mis-spelled..

Lawrence Cunt then.

 

[8ball]

Lawrence Cunt then.

That will also do fine.
I'd sooner he just faded away, rather than having the media egg him on for lols (and there are a few lols tbf).

 

[Shechemite]

They could always choose to do a different job NHS workers join 'anti-vax' group that compares Pfizer jab to 'poison'

 

[Pickman's model]

I'm finding it hard to drum up the fucks to give tbh.

It'd have been Hancock's half hour

 

[8ball]

It'd have been Hancock's half hour

That's better than I was expecting.

(I'm using sleep deprivation as an excuse)

 

[Dogsauce]

 

[Badgers]

Just came to post that

 

[8ball]

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Or "off you little Herrenvolk", as the Beeb would have it.

 

[LeytonCatLady]

Oh God, I'd love to think all these eejits bitching about a black family in a Sainsbury's ad are really ol' Lozza with multiple fake Twitter accounts, but unfortunately I know that's wishful thinking...

Opinion: The fury over the Sainsbury’s ad with a black family proves the UK is still shockingly racist

In Britain, the elusive racist, like Bigfoot or the dragon, may be a mythical creature. But the truth is, black people face their Bigfoots and their dragons on a daily basis

www.independent.co.uk

 

[MrSpikey]

Where ? Like any arts community, the theatre and film community is on which overwhelmingly holds liberal and centre left views. Why would they hire an outspoken bigot ?

Fox's stated intention is to organize a new political party and run for election. Why would a potential employer hire someone who has already made such a huge commitment to a different project? Why would an agent continue to try and find work for someone who has committed their resources elsewhere? The main reason Fox won't get further acting work is that he is now, by his own volition, a tinpot politician rather than a tinpot actor.