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See this brutal letter from Gove to Lambeth. What is wrong with Lambeth ? Why does our local government, which claims as it is Labour to care about poor people, treat the vulnerable with such contempt ? And why do people keep voting for more of the same ?

Also what are our Labour MPs doing to hold Lambeth council to account?

I notice Gove copies them in

So far I have found nothing by the local MPs criticising Lambeth publicly on housing maintenance. If anyone can find anything I would be glad to be proved wrong.
 
Also what are our Labour MPs doing to hold Lambeth council to account?

I notice Gove copies them in

So far I have found nothing by the local MPs criticising Lambeth publicly on housing maintenance. If anyone can find anything I would be glad to be proved wrong.
What possible motivation exists for labour MPs to criticise a Labour Council in a district of London which is perhaps best characterised as a "hegemonic kakistocracy" or "electoral auto-anocracy" ?

I use these clunky and unfamiliar terms to try to emphasise how the system under which we live is so unlike the electoral democracy that we would like to believe it is.

How would standing up to the Council benefit these MPs ? They are certain to be re-elected for as long as they want to stand, whatever they do or don't do. They could all just stay in bed eating hobnobs, and they would still be voted back in, forever. Why cause a fuss, and then be chastised by the Labour Party Head Office for inciting internal strife that would attract media attention ?

I came a across a statement recently, which has been haunting me, as it seems to explain so much:

The purpose of a system is what it does

coined by Stanford Beer, a pioneering cyberneticist. He said: "According to the cybernetician the purpose of a system is what it does. This is a basic dictum. It stands for bald fact, which makes a better starting point in seeking understanding than the familiar attributions of good intention, prejudices about expectations, moral judgment or sheer ignorance of circumstances."

It's a statement that seems both trite and profound at the same time. But consider for moment that the current state of affairs of Lambeth is actually just what it is intended to be by the system-as-a-whole, which, although not alive, has developed a mission of its own, which is goal-seeking towards uncontested self-preservation. While each individual in the system believes, to at least some extent, that they are working for the common good, their collective output is what we see now.

So the only purpose of what we think of as “Lambeth" is: to continue to exist.
 
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MPs can be quite independent but that's more of a personality thing, like Kate Hoey.

I expect that in Lambeth's case it's a mixture of the councillors being the principal activists for MPs and 2/3 are ex councillors in Lambeth and Southwark, of the ruling faction.
 
What possible motivation exists for labour MPs to criticise a Labour Council in a district of London which is perhaps best characterised as a "hegemonic kakistocracy" or "electoral auto-anocracy" ?

I use these clunky and unfamiliar terms to try to emphasise how the system under which we live is so unlike the electoral democracy that we would like to believe it is.

How would standing up to the Council benefit these MPs ? They are certain to be re-elected for as long as they want to stand, whatever they do or don't do. They could all just stay in bed eating hobnobs, and they would still be voted back in, forever. Why cause a fuss, and then be chastised by the Labour Party Head Office for inciting internal strife that would attract media attention ?

I came a across a statement recently, which has been haunting me, as it seems to explain so much:

The purpose of a system is what it does

coined by Stanford Beer, a pioneering cyberneticist. He said: "According to the cybernetician the purpose of a system is what it does. This is a basic dictum. It stands for bald fact, which makes a better starting point in seeking understanding than the familiar attributions of good intention, prejudices about expectations, moral judgment or sheer ignorance of circumstances."

It's a statement that seems both trite and profound at the same time. But consider for moment that the current state of affairs of Lambeth is actually just what it is intended to be by the system-as-a-whole, which, although not alive, has developed a mission of its own, which is goal-seeking towards uncontested self-preservation. While each individual in the system believes, to at least some extent, that they are working for the common good, their collective output is what we see now.

So the only purpose of what we think of as “Lambeth" is: to continue to exist.

I'd agree with this.

The resentment one gets, either out in open or under the surface, for believing that rational questioning is part of the democratic process is how it works in Lambeth

The what you call the cybernetic system is so entrenched as a common sense its hard to argue against it

Was talking to another local recently who were active in local community. They have gradually withdrawn as its taking to much of a toll of them dealing with the Kafkaesque way Lambeth go on

And this is not someone on the right.
 
Lambeth Council could spend £47m more than it planned on compensation to people who were abused in its 'care' as children:

Council could spend a further £47m on payouts to child abuse victims

Deeply disturbing:

"Lambeth council and the Metropolitan Police have been accused of withholding information about their involvement and alleged cover-up of one of England’s worst child abuse scandals ..."

Lambeth council and Metropolitan Police accused of covering up child sexual abuse scandal
 
And Sonia Winifred has decided to resign as a councillor, despite being given a much shorter suspension from the Labour Group.

(I'd imagine the Labour Group will be desperately trying to find a way of getting the resulting by-election postponed to same day as Mayoral election, as Knights Hill ward is directly effected by the botched Streatham Wells low traffic neighbourhood next door.)

 
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Presumably a Green target - but a lot to make up there

2022 Lambeth London Borough Council election: Knight's Hill (3)
PartyCandidateVotes%±%
LabourIbtisam Adem2,31764.4
LabourJackie Meldrum *2,31464.3
LabourSonia Winifred *2,17160.4
GreenTorla Evans97727.2
GreenLewis Heather70119.5
GreenPaul Rocks53815.0
ConservativeJoyce Chieke35810.0
ConservativeLuke Hutson3489.7
ConservativeAnthony Kimm3299.1
Liberal DemocratsIshbel Brown2868.0
Liberal DemocratsClaire Mathys2517.0
Liberal DemocratsOliver Moule2015.6
Turnout3,70731.6
 
Jewish Voice for Labour tweeted about the suspensions of FOUR councillors from the Labour Group earlier today:
No comments so far from Councillor Sardiwal (Herne Hill & Loughborough Junction ward) or Da Silva (Waterloo & South Bank ward) that I am aware of.
Martin Abrams, indefinitely
Sonia Winifred and Deepak Sardiwal, 3 months
Sarina Da Silva, 2 months
 
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Jewish Voice for Labour tweeted abouted the suspensions of FOUR councillors from the Labour Group earlier today:
No comments so far from Counncillor Sardiwal (Herne Hill & Loughborough Junction ward) or Da Silva (Waterloo & South Bank ward) hat I am aware of.
I can't see the point of this. Seems vindictive. How can a borough councillor's ethical judgement on conduct of a war be subservient to national party policy?
They'll be banning white poppies next (if they are still around).
 
When Sonia Winifred was first elected in 2014, she "forgot" to disclose that she was employed by the council. Despite the need for a new election, Labour supported her.

Despite her obvious lack of skill or experience as a cabinet member for Culture and Equality, Labour supported her.

I believe she has understood that her political career has now peaked. The Gaza ceasefire motion provides her with a respectable justification to resign, while maintaining her moral superiority. It's a wise political move. I don't blame her at all.
 
It takes something to go against the ruling group in Lambeth council.

I saw what happened to Cllr Rachel.

I've had my differences with Cllr Winifred. But the sheer nastiness of the leadership and the control freakery makes me understand why she decided to go.

It's not just the suspension or being hauled in front of a disciplinary hearing it is that one becomes a non person to the other labour Cllrs.

It broke Rachel.

So for her own well being I can understand why Clir Winifred decided to go.

What annoys me is that one is left with the careerists and the right wing robots who do whatever the leadership tell them


I will not be voting Labour at any election soon.
 
When Sonia Winifred was first elected in 2014, she "forgot" to disclose that she was employed by the council. Despite the need for a new election, Labour supported her.

Despite her obvious lack of skill or experience as a cabinet member for Culture and Equality, Labour supported her.

I believe she has understood that her political career has now peaked. The Gaza ceasefire motion provides her with a respectable justification to resign, while maintaining her moral superiority. It's a wise political move. I don't blame her at all.
What you say about her initial election is true - but it is the election agent's job to make sure the candidate is validly nominated.
So yes the Labour Party supported her- but it was their mistake for not properly checking whether she had any employment links to the council beforehand.
Not sure if under the present system candidates are supposed to be fully familiar with electoral law - but agents certainly are.

Other than that I think what you say is cynical, and seeks to disparage Cllr Winifred's moral views on the Gaza situation.
 
Why did Cllr Abrams get an indefinite suspension whilst the others got few months?

The other thing about suspension is that at end of it one is supposed to retract ones "errors". It's not just that the suspension ends. As Rachel found out.

Whole process is exercise in humiliation.
 
Why did Cllr Abrams get an indefinite suspension whilst the others got few months?

The other thing about suspension is that at end of it one is supposed to retract ones "errors". It's not just that the suspension ends. As Rachel found out.

Whole process is exercise in humiliation.
Maybe that's why Sonia Winifred resigned?
Not prepared to play neo-Stalinist mind-games [I love the leader's policy - even though it appalls me]
Sonia Winifred is after all a psychotherapist!
 
Seems unlikely greens win it but who knows
According to this it was Lib Dem in 2002 then solidly Labour Local Elections Archive Project — Knight's Hill Ward
Not sure about the boundary changes mentioned.
Prior to 1996 it was safe Tory - then nabbed by the LDs on by-elections following a scandal
See: EX LAMBETH TORY LEADER JAILED FOR 18 MONTHS | Local Government Chronicle (LGC)
[I have heard it said than nowadays Councillor Evans would have got an MBE rather than jail for this offence]
 
Interview by Owen Jones of Cllr Abrams.

Goes into more detail of what happened. Said the disciplinary hearing was gruelling two hours and humiliating.

Says he grew up in a politically active Labour household. Aware his East European Jewish background.

Clearly feels the Labour party is important part of his life from early on.

Am I surprised they booted him out? No given how I see Labour group operate.



 
Sonia Winifred has officially handed in her resignation. Assuming that two electors do request a poll in the next few days, we would be looking at a standalone by-election in April, as there are more than 35 working days until the scheduled London elections on 2 May.

 
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The Lambeth line on Green motion was that it was "divisive" and that it was a matter for central government, Not local.


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Yet on Ukraine the Labour group tweeted this. Headlined ( translation of the Ukrainian) Glory to Ukraine.

This is in stark contrast to what they say on Palestine.

So its ok to take a position on this conflict as a Council but not on what is happening in Palestine/ Israel.

 
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