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That does explain a little why some tra types seem reluctant to speak up

I think that the way the Council deals with residents often has an effect of self censorship on people.

people in TRAs or other residents groups always have in the back of their minds that Council will refuse to talk to them at all if they speak up

That it's better to not speak up publicly and upset the Council . Hoping that will mean that at least one might be able to get some things improved.

It's a balancing act. Putting residents issues forward but not annoying the Council.

What the Council prefer is for residents groups to meet and listen to them, nod their heads and don't criticise to much.

This case does not surprise me. This head of TRA was imo trying to do her (unpaid ) job correctly.

The (paid) Residents Participation Officer saw as there job to nip in the bud residents actually participating using peaceful democratic imo means to do so. The Orwellian language Council use to describe it's officers doesn't help. In fact the RP officer job is to keep a tab on residents to inform Council who's onside and who's "difficult". It's actually a form of policing. To help Cllrs work out who to talk to. And who needs to be sidelined.

It can also cause rifts in residents groups. Who all might agree on an issue but are split on how to deal with it. Whether to risk alienating the officers/ leading Cllrs.
As I know from experience.

In a Co-op Council imo residents should not be put in this situation.
 
Btw what I've just posted is not a criticism of residents groups who decide to do things "quietly".

I feel those who represent residents are put into a very difficult position through no fault of their own.
 
I think that the way the Council deals with residents often has an effect of self censorship on people.

people in TRAs or other residents groups always have in the back of their minds that Council will refuse to talk to them at all if they speak up

That it's better to not speak up publicly and upset the Council . Hoping that will mean that at least one might be able to get some things improved.

It's a balancing act. Putting residents issues forward but not annoying the Council.

What the Council prefer is for residents groups to meet and listen to them, nod their heads and don't criticise to much.

Had a long chat with the chair of a well established local interest group recently who said that they have to temper what views they want to express / support because they know that if they come out against particular council plans and proposals the council will simply stop consulting them and possibly create a rival group. That way much goes unsaid / unchallenged.
 
Just saw former Croydon reporter now some form of national investigative reporter tweet out a list of councils who have lent money to Thurrock council. He didn't mention Lambeth but he said there were more and he would share on request with reporters

 
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Just saw former Croydon reporter now some form of national investigative reporter tweet out a list of councils who have lent money to Thurrock council. He didn't mention Lambeth but he said there were more and he would share on request with reporters


Sounds a really interesting case.
These sorts of things do happen regularly though - many councils invested in Icesave, Kaupthing Edge etc in 2006/7 and lost the lot apparently - at least for many years. Including Police and Firemen's pension funds AFAIR.
Close call for Kent County Council - and took years Money deposited in Icelandic banks - Kent County Council
Then there was Interest Rate Swaps back in 1988/89. Lambeth avoided this, but Hammersmith & Fulham badly burned.
 


See Lambeth Labour have gone ott with Queens death. "We will come together as one"

Sorry I didn't vote Labour at last election and you don't speak for me.

I really object when politicians decide they are speaking on behalf of the "country"

I was working with my Irish friend today. He will be spared this as his country fought a war to get rid of British Empire.

I'm afraid the atmosphere over next few weeks could get like Princess Di death

Not everyone cares about the Queen or wants a monarchy.

Labour should not be making blanket statement about the "country" coming together.

The Council will lead the mourning. FFS
 


See Lambeth Labour have gone ott with Queens death. "We will come together as one"

Sorry I didn't vote Labour at last election and you don't speak for me.

I really object when politicians decide they are speaking on behalf of the "country"

I was working with my Irish friend today. He will be spared this as his country fought a war to get rid of British Empire.

I'm afraid the atmosphere over next few weeks could get like Princess Di death

Not everyone cares about the Queen or wants a monarchy.

Labour should not be making blanket statement about the "country" coming together.

The Council will lead the mourning. FFS

Actually I would go further - in the immortal words of supporters of Nigel Farage and GB News - "All lives matter!"
 
Coop Council in action

I heard someone who involved in fighting the 'regeneration' saying how they thought that the council negecting to carry out even basic repairs/maintenance, was a tactic to wear down tenants to encourage them to just give up and leave. Lambeth acting like a Rachman Landlord not a co-operative council :mad:
 
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Rather unsettling story I heard today. Connoisseurs of the Coldharbour thread with be familiar with 316 Coldharbour Lane - a wreck which has changed hands several times in the last 5 years at miraculously high prices.

I have been told:
1, this property has been bought by Chinese developers
2. they've taken the roof off - and the interior structure is suspect to say the least (videos are available on the auctioneers website)
When a neighbour contacted Lambeth Building Control to see what they were doing to safeguard neighbouring properties in the terrace they were told "Can you check what they are allowed to do on the internet and get back to me?"

I know Lambeth is riddled with incompetent consultants, but this is ridiculous. What do we pay our Council Tax for?
Auction video here - note the auctioneer seems delighted the property is so notorious
 
Lack of scrutiny of the council for sure plays a part in this. Becomes a self fulfilling prophecy especially in housing where Labour don’t want to open themselves up for criticism. Is shameful really and residents deserve better. The Green and Lib Dems do a good job of holding council to account as do Buzz and Peoples Audit etc. but is so difficult!
 
Does not surprise me that he says that.

"Trot" means in Blairite New Labour language anyone who is slightly to the left of Tony Blair. Which in practise covers a lot of people.

Anyone who at any time is critical of the wonderful policies of this New Labour Council is liable to be dismissed as trouble maker who is possibly a "Trot".

Thing is people like Bennett have had their nice little earner and social position of being a Cllr and Cabinet member. They can now go on and look forward to a lucrative career in the private sector.
Bennett not a cllr any more. He stood down in May to concentrate on becoming an MP.
 
Haven't negotiated the paywall (yet) - but I've always been skeptical about "damp" which can easily be caused by improvements such as double glazing leading to poor ventilation in areas used for prolonged boiling in cooking, washer/dryer emissions, showers in a large family etc.
If windows cannot be opened by choice or design the solution is dehumidifiers.
In technical Britain today ruled by barristers no win no fee merchants are thriving - and we council tax payers are paying out.
This blog demonstrated my point - and it dates from 2018 Damp
Note mould next to double glazing
Most post-60s Lambeth estates (basically, post-Crittall window use) have been double-glazed, & - entirely coincidentally - developed damp problems soon after, often due to the "cheapest option" glazing units having no drip-vents.
 
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I couldn't get behind the pay wall of the Inside Housing article.

This come up in google:


Severe case of damp and Housing Ombudsman found that Lambeth hadn't dealt with it. Despite intervention by Ombudsman previously.

On trying to get confirmation that remedial works had been done they got dossier of email. Like loads they were expected to plough through. Instead of clear and straightforward record of repairs. They became involved again as Lambeth hadn't given confirmation to the tenant for works being done. Which clearly they hadnt. Or not properly.

It beggar belief that the Ombudsman has too get involved twice on same case. I pity the Council tenant. They obviously tried to get answers out of Lambeth and came up against this Council obfuscation.

The Ombudsman now says this is "systemic" problem.

Lambeth reply they have now reorganised and will deal better with record keeping of repairs and planned maintenance.

On planned maintenance of their buildings Lambeth imo don't have the will or expertise to do it. Maintenance is reactive. Planned maintenance would save money in long term.

Slightly off subject I've been reading surveyor's reports for the Brixton Rec. Specifically the heating in changing rooms. The ventilation and heating systems passed their usable life years ago. Yet haven't been replaced. Leaks leading to water damage are down to not clearing gutters to roof etc. Lambeth would save money and keep buildings in use for longer if they spent on planned maintenance. Often I've heard officers say of a building that its past its life. It needn't if maintained through planned maintenance. There are industry formulas to do this.
If the repairs had actually been done, Lambeth Council could have easily found the information by generating a report from Northgate, their property management software.
That they didn't, says to me the work wasn't done. Just sending copies of emails just shows them acknowledging an issue. It doesn't show that the issue has been dealt with.
 
Coop Council in action

The woman that was sent to, gave them a suitably robust reply in the negative!

The new RPO for the area is a bit of a dick, thinks he can bluster & bulldoze residents. Told him RPOs don't have a good rep on my estate, given how many of his predecessors have been lying, conniving shites!
 
That does explain a little why some tra types seem reluctant to speak up
We "disaffiliated" as far as we could. We don't take any direct grant from Lambeth Council (they hand out a "per household" annual fee which is £2 per household. Big fucking deal!) so that they don't get access to our bank details (which we have to supply if we take the money). In case you're wondering "why not just give them the details, & take the money?", I can think of 3 TRAs with 5 figures in their accounts, that were wound up by Lambeth on the flimsiest of premises, just in the last couple of years.
 
Lack of scrutiny of the council for sure plays a part in this. Becomes a self fulfilling prophecy especially in housing where Labour don’t want to open themselves up for criticism. Is shameful really and residents deserve better. The Green and Lib Dems do a good job of holding council to account as do Buzz and Peoples Audit etc. but is so difficult!
We had nearly 12 yrs of Ed Davie as Scrutiny chair - a man who never returned a single decision to cabinet, but swears he wasn't partisan. If you've ever met & spoken with Davie, you'll know he's as partisan as a vain, self-righteous prig can get.
People had hopes that when Liz Atkins took over, things would be different, & she has tossed a few soft balls back to cabinet, but nothing has really changed. It's just theatre where Labour pretend to listen, but do bugger all worthy of note.
 
I heard someone who involved in fighting the 'regeneration' saying how they thought that the council negecting to carry out even basic repairs/maintenance, was a tactic to wear down tenants to encourage them to just give up and leave. Lambeth acting like a Rachman Landlord not a co-operative council :mad:
Ann was saying this for a couple of years before she passed, so from approx 2014. :(
It's a VERY common sentiment here now. It's kind of worked against Lambeth because a) people are realising they have alternate routes to forcing repairs, & b) the council's intransigence has just made us intransigent too!
 
The woman that was sent to, gave them a suitably robust reply in the negative!

The new RPO for the area is a bit of a dick, thinks he can bluster & bulldoze residents. Told him RPOs don't have a good rep on my estate, given how many of his predecessors have been lying, conniving shites!
The bit the RPO quoted is completely inappropriate in this context and I'm glad the woman gave him short shrift! 👍

(Don't live etc. in Lambeth but worked in resident involvement for years).
 
The bit the RPO quoted is completely inappropriate in this context and I'm glad the woman gave him short shrift! 👍

(Don't live etc. in Lambeth but worked in resident involvement for years).
They always try it on. There's very much a culture of bullying from Lambeth's RPOs. It never worked with me, because I'm not afraid of bureaucrats, & I actually read the shit they want us to sign properly. I've had RPOs trying to stop events at our community hall because they're political. I refer them to their own "model constitution" which only forbids PARTY political events.
Interestingly, 1 senior RPO here left under a cloud, another retired due to "ill health" (i.e. was allowed to go with his pension intact, rather than being sacked), & a 3rd transferred to a neighbouring LA to avoid having to fulfil a "customer-facing role" anymore! All within 12 months!
 
They always try it on. There's very much a culture of bullying from Lambeth's RPOs. It never worked with me, because I'm not afraid of bureaucrats, & I actually read the shit they want us to sign properly. I've had RPOs trying to stop events at our community hall because they're political. I refer them to their own "model constitution" which only forbids PARTY political events.
Interestingly, 1 senior RPO here left under a cloud, another retired due to "ill health" (i.e. was allowed to go with his pension intact, rather than being sacked), & a 3rd transferred to a neighbouring LA to avoid having to fulfil a "customer-facing role" anymore! All within 12 months!
After working in resident involvement for a decade or so, I eventually became convinced that most of it is tokenism and a tick-box exercise.

It never used to be and it shouldn't be. But it is.

Makes me really angry as someone who worked in that sphere up until 2017. I can't imagine how angry it makes unheard residents feel. I could do a twenty paragraph rant on this but it's 3am so I won't :D

Strength to you guys.
 
Is there a problem with Lambeth's pension fund? They are having a meeting on 2nd November - to consider a presentation from the Fund’s actuary, Hymans Robertson, updating the Committee on the progress of the 2022 triennial valuation.

The funding level at the previous valuation date of 31 March 2019 was 82%. [sounds a bit dodgy?]

BTW Lambeth Council's pension fund has been a player in previous crises - in the period 1986-1994 Lambeth went on a "contribution holiday" racking up massive deficits which contributed to service cuts in later years.

It would be interesting to know what is going on now. There is at least one restricted paper on the agenda (exempt from publication). This could be for any reason - like it identifies the amounts of pensions of past, present and future top bods at the council - by name. Or it might be "commercially sensitive" - ie getting different pension managers in. It does appear that Lambeth is part of a London-wide consortium of pension funds - which presumably is unaffected.

The overwhelming sense of the documentation for the meeting Agenda for Pensions Board on Wednesday 2 November 2022, 6.30 pm | Lambeth Council is that the work being done is late - and concerns ethics issues, such as zero carbon investing.

One of the risks they are currently guarding against is falling interest rates and rising gilt prices!
Didn't the Truss government fall because interest rates are now rising and gilt values collapsing?
Still you can't expect Lambeth Council to be up with events!
 
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