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Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
True, but bipolar disorder doesn't make you are Nazi either.
I used to have a very severely mentally ill uncle who came out with allsorts of really ugly shit when he was having an episode that didn't reflect his non-ill self, so I have some sympathy. It doesn't make the effects of these things he's saying any less awful of course. But mental illness absolutely can make people say and do racist, and plenty of other terrible, things.
Raheem
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Without specific reference to KW, this is possibly a bit like "Don't blame your breathlessness on being ill. I'm ill and my breathing's just fine."
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Yossarian
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Maybe mental illness has affected his judgment on the wisdom of publicly declaring his love for Nazis but the Hitler stuff has apparently been going on for a long time.
A business executive who worked for West, who now goes by Ye, told CNN that the artist created a hostile work environment, in part through his “obsession” with Hitler. “He would praise Hitler by saying how incredible it was that he was able to accumulate so much power and would talk about all the great things he and the Nazi Party achieved for the German people,” the individual told CNN.
The executive told CNN that West spoke openly about reading “Mein Kampf,” Hitler’s 1925 autobiographical manifesto and expressed his “admiration” for the Nazis and Hitler for their use of propaganda. This individual stated that people in West’s inner circle were “fully aware” of his interest in Hitler. Four sources told CNN that West had originally suggested the title “Hitler” for his 2018 album that eventually released as “Ye.” They did not want to be named, citing concern for professional retribution.
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A business executive who worked for West, who now goes by Ye, told CNN that the artist created a hostile work environment, in part through his “obsession” with Hitler. “He would praise Hitler by saying how incredible it was that he was able to accumulate so much power and would talk about all the great things he and the Nazi Party achieved for the German people,” the individual told CNN.
The executive told CNN that West spoke openly about reading “Mein Kampf,” Hitler’s 1925 autobiographical manifesto and expressed his “admiration” for the Nazis and Hitler for their use of propaganda. This individual stated that people in West’s inner circle were “fully aware” of his interest in Hitler. Four sources told CNN that West had originally suggested the title “Hitler” for his 2018 album that eventually released as “Ye.” They did not want to be named, citing concern for professional retribution.
Exclusive: Kanye West has a disturbing history of admiring Hitler, sources tell CNN | CNN
Several people who were once close to the artist formerly known as Kanye West told CNN that he has long been fascinated by Adolf Hitler — and once wanted to name an album after the Nazi leader.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
What the actual fuck?
story
Changing the facts
Maybe mental illness has affected his judgment on the wisdom of publicly declaring his love for Nazis but the Hitler stuff has apparently been going on for a long time.
A business executive who worked for West, who now goes by Ye, told CNN that the artist created a hostile work environment, in part through his “obsession” with Hitler. “He would praise Hitler by saying how incredible it was that he was able to accumulate so much power and would talk about all the great things he and the Nazi Party achieved for the German people,” the individual told CNN.
The executive told CNN that West spoke openly about reading “Mein Kampf,” Hitler’s 1925 autobiographical manifesto and expressed his “admiration” for the Nazis and Hitler for their use of propaganda. This individual stated that people in West’s inner circle were “fully aware” of his interest in Hitler. Four sources told CNN that West had originally suggested the title “Hitler” for his 2018 album that eventually released as “Ye.” They did not want to be named, citing concern for professional retribution.
Exclusive: Kanye West has a disturbing history of admiring Hitler, sources tell CNN | CNN
Several people who were once close to the artist formerly known as Kanye West told CNN that he has long been fascinated by Adolf Hitler — and once wanted to name an album after the Nazi leader.
Yes.
This discussion has already happened on the other thread.
Kanye West has been despicable for a considerable length of time. His very apparent MH issues are adjacent, not the cause, of his ugly foul views.
Yossarian
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Maybe the music forum Kanye West thread should be merged with the politics forum one to reflect his new career as a far-right politician.
story
Changing the facts
Fair pojnt.
When this debacle started I didn’t notice the forum, tried to choose the best one of many KW threads. It wasn’t about his politics so I chose that Fool thread.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
I think the vast majority of the people saying things like that are speaking in relative terms. Saying that Jones "looks like" a sane person when he's being out-batshitted by Kanye is not the same thing as saying that Jones is in fact a sensible person worth listening to. It's an observation of how far Kanye has gone off the deep end, not an attempted rehabilitation of Jones.
Anyone who genuinely believes that Jones is a reasonable person on account of Kanye appearing on his show is likely already one of his followers.
Yossarian
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Yeah, delivering unhinged rants is Jones' entire brand, I don't think he's going to try to reinvent himself as the calm voice of reason at this stage - maybe the reason he briefly looked perturbed was just annoyance at being upstaged.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
A great mind? How so?
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Oh he's talented alright. You try and rap like that!
Kanye West Is Suspended From Twitter After Posting a Swastika (Published 2022)
The tweet was deleted before the rapper’s account was shut down. Twitter’s chief executive, Elon Musk, said the post violated a rule against inciting violence.
Have 'Javanka' spoken out, or are they counting their Saudi billions in Palm Beach? Imagine finding out your father/in law willingly had dinner with this wanker, and worse.
I saw that in the New Yorker. Absolutely shocking that he seemed shocked. Pled total ignorance to everything said over the course of decades. It'll be interesting if the next person turns the award down - who'd want to keep company with Donald Trump and Sheldon Adelson?I was reading an interview with Morton Klein of the Zionist Organisation of America earlier, who had awarded Trump their highest honour about a week before he had dinner with two neo-nazis. Whoops.
It's worth reading, and sort of hilarious.
A Right-Wing Zionist Digests Trump’s Anti-Semite Dinner Party | The N…
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Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
He's undeniably one of the most influential musical figures of modern times and a not inconsiderable one in fashion. Serious success in either is not easy and at that level, in that genre, requires a great deal of creative brainpower.
None of which makes him any less of a horrible bastard (outside of the Nazi stuff his general levels of misogyny have always been vile even when he was winning awards) or any less obviously cracked. Sadly being very talented and a raving shite aren't mutually exclusive.
not-bono-ever
meh
Kanye is 45. men dont start obsessing over Hitler until their late 50s usually. WH Smith top shelf material I saw last week
Raheem
Well-Known Member
Ahead of his time.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Sorry I thought you meant Hitler there
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
He definitely does look discomfited. Could be just an "oh shit, that's another legal case against me" reaction though. Maybe a mixture of that and genuinely a bit thrown.
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
It looks that way, yeah. Hadn't seen that before.
So people have known about this for a while but didn't want any comeback for saying so. Some people have probably been too scared then, but others too greedy I'm guessing.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
I was reading an interview with Morton Klein of the Zionist Organisation of America earlier, who had awarded Trump their highest honour about a week before he had dinner with two neo-nazis. Whoops.
It's worth reading, and sort of hilarious.
A Right-Wing Zionist Digests Trump’s Anti-Semite Dinner Party | The N…
archived 1 Dec 2022 17:03:36 UTC
That made my head spin.
Ming
I shot a man in Reno...
There used to be a pub in London which shared a wall with the asylum next door. The owners would put a ladder against it and charged people to use it and be entertained by the antics of the lunatics next door.
Pretty barbaric right? This is the same as that. Like ‘Karen’ videos actually. Laughing at people with an illness.
Pretty barbaric right? This is the same as that. Like ‘Karen’ videos actually. Laughing at people with an illness.
BigMoaner
What A Load of Old Bollocks
Anyone who gives him a platform at this stage is a piece of shit. The bloke is not even talking in coherent sentences. He himself complains of racing thoughts, a classic sign of a manic episode. He needs to disappear for a few years and get his head together.
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