Just Stop Oil
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Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
If someone in the firm had thought to ask nicely when they found out in the first place and covered it up, we could have had a head start! Missed opportunities eh.
www.scientificamerican.com
Exxon Knew about Climate Change Almost 40 Years Ago
A new investigation shows the oil company understood the science before it became a public issue and spent millions to promote misinformation
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
No?
Best Oil Companies Investing In Renewable Energy | The Motley Fool
There's 3 for a start including BP and there are others if you could be bothered looking.
Investing in renewables “a bit”
Investing in oil and gas “a lot”
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Yeah which goes against ou's idea that oil firms are just going to roll over and go under. It also proves the other poster is wrong that oil companies aren't investing in alternative sources even if it's massively underfunding it.
But so much for naive armchair eco warriors and I'm the one that's supposed to be stupid.
I see it's only ou that's stated what eco measures he's taken, what have the rest of you done?
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
So this geezer has his collar felt for little more than pushing a few bods out of the way whilst the protesters obstruct a public highway. The OB stand aside and do fuck all until matey gets the hump. I do try and see it from the protesters side and admire them for fighting a cause but they shouldn't be allowed to provoke and obstruct workers many of whom are servicing the city to the degree that they're being physically attacked. What is the OB's position on this? Turn a blind eye to obstruction of a public highway then uphold the law when they're pushed out of the way?
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
I see it's only ou that's stated what eco measures he's taken, what have the rest of you done?
Several things and more planned, if health and finances permit. Not going to share online, though.
Do hope that you're not saying protesters/demonstrators and marchers can't get involved unless they live saintly and example setting lives etc.
You know, the sort of hecklers who says that if you care so much about asylum seekers, why don't you house them etc.
If you don't like it, the "go live on a tofu farm" kinda vibe...
sealion
Conformity is the last refuge of the unimaginitive
Eh?PuBLic hIgHWaY - MAgnA CArtA
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
My ‘idea’ is totally in your head.Yeah which goes against ou's idea that oil firms are just going to roll over and go under. It also proves the other poster is wrong that oil companies aren't investing in alternative sources even if it's massively underfunding it.
But so much for naive armchair eco warriors and I'm the one that's supposed to be stupid.
I see it's only ou that's stated what eco measures he's taken, what have the rest of you done?
As for armchair, what are you sitting on? What are you doing apart parroting ignorant nonsense?
Mr Retro
Beware hedgehogs
On the old Kent road today “Driver says he urgently needs to get to the hospital, but the Just Stop Oil protesters refuse to move out of his way. Takes matters into his own hands and drives on the pavement”.
So JSO are allowed to say who can attend a hospital. And people on this forum support it? You people are insane.
So JSO are allowed to say who can attend a hospital. And people on this forum support it? You people are insane.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
"you people"
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Does JSO?
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Every police expenditure is by definition a waste of money cease people shouldn't be committing crimesJust Stop Oil protesters cost police over £3,500,000 in one month, Met claims
What a waste of resources. £3.5M in one month + £10.5M between Oct and Dec.
Would have been better spent on research into the problem.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
Every police expenditure is by definition a waste of money cease people shouldn't be committing crimes
Surely we should be celebrating the trickle down economy and the free flow of capital to the workers?
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
In a thread of post after post of asinine comments, this is one of the stupidestEvery police expenditure is by definition a waste of money cease people shouldn't be committing crimes
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Thanks Mum
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
Quoted from where? I'm happy to analyse actual incidents but you've done this twice now, giving examples without links. Support your accusations or don't make them.
Oh and as for the "what are you doing" stuff, that only applies as a judgment if you're making demands of others. Unlike the people who are (critically) supportive of JSO taking action, you are calling for what, JSO to stand down? For them to do things your way? Which implies you should have some sort of authoritative voice on other people's activities. So it helps if you are able to justify your assumed authority with y'know, some sort of action/expertise beyond deepening that sofa dent and complaining on Urban.
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WouldBe
Dislicksick
I'm one of the greenest posters on here. Really want to go there?
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
No-one gives a shit about your recycling habits, we all do that. This is about pressuring for real change in ways which aren't just asking nicely for the greed-addled sociopaths in charge to "please sir, be nice" and retiring, satisfied, as they nod and wink and burn the planet down.
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
Do they block Both enterences to the road?
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
I'm not demanding JSO follow my preferences. You are. Now do you want to back up your huffing and puffing or keep up this increasingly pathetic attempt at deflection?
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
It's assault, simple as
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Ser their posts on vegan threads for evidence of similar
Who gives a fuck what individual consumer choices are made by somebody whose economic activity literally constitutes a magnitude of 0.000000000001% of the planet’s economic activity? And yes, I have worked that number out and it’s accurate unless your activity exceeds $500,000 per year. Whoopsy-fucking-do to whatever you do within your consumer western lifestyle. It’s making a difference of the square root of fuck all.
The only way climate change is going to be mitigated is through top-down systemic change imposed on society. And the only way that’s going to happen is when the consequences of it not happening are understood to exceed the consequences of doing it. Widespread disruption absolutely plays a part in that.
The only way climate change is going to be mitigated is through top-down systemic change imposed on society. And the only way that’s going to happen is when the consequences of it not happening are understood to exceed the consequences of doing it. Widespread disruption absolutely plays a part in that.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
JSO aren't doing widespread disruption. If they were it might well have more impact. Blocking the odd throughfare and chucking some orange powder overyourself while jumping on a snooker table isn't widespread. It certainly doesn't challenge power
Seems pretty effective to me. Lots of sound and fury about it. And look how angry people like you are getting. That anger is exactly what they want.
You really misunderstand the nature of disruptive action if you think it’s about doing something and then directly getting what you want in response. You really misunderstand the nature of disruptive action if you think it’s about persuading unbelievers that you are correct. You really misunderstand the nature of disruptive action if you think it’s about quick wins or individuals.
You really misunderstand the nature of disruptive action.
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