Yes, this shit. Come on man ffs if you're going to weigh in on a conversation do you have nothing more intelligent to do than waffle on with stupid Daily Mail stereotypes? Is that really the limit of your engagement? If so what's the point? You aren't talking to JSO or people who uncritically support them, you're just Making Your Opposition Known. It really seems like you're just doing what you accuse them of except you're still in your pants at home.
The only ones that are stupid are those that think you can stop oil overnight.
The only ones that are stupid are those that think you can stop oil overnight.
They would be better off coming up with solutions to the problem themselves.
who said overnight?The only ones that are stupid are those that think you can stop oil overnight.
They would be better off coming up with solutions to the problem themselves.
Thanks for that short stalk, but in fact I'm mostly pointing out that people complaining about JSO don't actually have much of a clue what they're talking about and seem to have confused direct action with a popularity contest, which is less moaning than it is an attempt to move the conversation beyond tedious repetition.
Apart from the note last page expounding on the history of non-violent direct action to put their actions in context, my repeated voiced feelings of unease about JSO's sometimes culty-sounding attitudes, the clear implication throughout that I think NVDA has severe limitations, the bit I literally just posted suggesting the scene is primed for a split moving towards heavier-duty activity, my long-time criticisms of their predecessor XR over their failure to fully prepare new adherents for State interest which carry through direct to JSO itself, etc? Oh hardly any. Really I'm not critical at all until I've mumbled some bollocks about them all being middle class egomaniacs and set my stuck record on the phrase "counterproductive."
Reckon you should as the fact I wasn’t aware of this really begs the question what the fuck have you been doing about it if you’re so concerned?
"Echo chamber"
I have an ambivalent view on it. I think they're effective for at least some of what JSO wants to achieve. I think such tactics are extremely limited while having a few potential upsides for them:
My post was in response to people suggesting slow walks etc should lead directly to arrests. This has historically not been a blanket policy for previous civil disobedience (let alone been a declaration of moral imperative), implying that this time the actions being undertaken are viewed as uniquely outrageous.
Bad fag packet. Despite recent building efforts the prison estate in Britain is overcrowded, and a shock of arrests could theoretically overwhelm it (or at least force an embarrassing setting up of rushed detention camps). The reason mass arrests doesn't work in that way though is more to do with strategies the State has developed over the last 60 years to deal with multiple similar efforts - grab/release/inconvenience. People get arrested, are sent home and then have to wait for months for a court date, then rather than being jailed are more usually fined and bound over. And every so often an organiser gets absolutely buried as an example.
Translated as “my virtue signalling is more important than the people in you post”
Just stop oil. Like it's that easy.who said overnight?
unless you are actually thick you'll know full well they want to stop new oil licences and exploration, not stop you using oil today!
What have jso being doing about the use of oil/ fossil fuels?
What have jso being doing about the use of oil/ fossil fuels?
Was that orange dye herbal or is it derived from petrochemicals? Looks to bright to be natural to me.
Where do they think all the super glue they use comes from?
Etc.
It seems the calibre of shit trolls and fuckwits finding their way to Urban has somewhat gone down hill during my break from here. He/ she is not evn funny. It's a sad day
by no means, he is very funny peculiar but not at all funny hahaIt seems the calibre of shit trolls and fuckwits finding their way to Urban has somewhat gone down hill during my break from here. He/ she is not evn funny
"Virtue signalling". Not very original, chief. Do you spend your days watching GB "News" and wanking yourself stupid to Nazi porn?
I presumed this was a joke but actually not sure…What have jso being doing about the use of oil/ fossil fuels?
Was that orange dye herbal or is it derived from petrochemicals? Looks to bright to be natural to me.
Where do they think all the super glue they use comes from?
Etc.
Well said. I think in addition, creating disruption plays back the “divide and conquer” tactic at those who are normally using it themselves. People organising events have to start worrying about being a target of disruption, and they thus create a pressure to resolve the issue. Does anybody seriously think the Good Friday Agreement would have happened without the preceding terrorist activity, for example?
so you are admitting you are thick then? well doneJust stop oil. Like it's that easy.
