For a split second I got Barry Hearn and Barry Horne mixed up!Barry Hearn says he wants him to do bird for ruining the nap on that cloth.
Barry Hearn wants protesters who disrupt sporting events to face jail time
The World Snooker Tour president said sport is 'an easy target’ after disruption to the World Snooker Championship and Grand National by Just Stop Oil and Animal Risingwww.theguardian.com
Maybe you should start a protest if it’s that obvious & simple. Just Start Tidal?
Even if that is the case, and I don't think it has to be, it does not necessarily mean that that "vandalism" is a bad strategy. I mean surely you can think of some historical examples where civil disobedience that has been (part of) an effective campaign.
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Yeah fair enough. I just don't think a snooker table in the Crucible is a good look. It's a soft target and I always worry that means it becomes a target for even worse things. Load of old blokes from working mens clubs make up a significant part of the audience from my own personal experience. They just won't get it.
Has it, though? Again, the aim is not to be liked, it's to put the cause into the news. They achieved that, ergo as far as they're concerned it didn't backfire.
It does if you're ridiculed for it. Which let's face it, the mainstream press will be on the look out for that from the off. something predicted in the twitter post earlier up the thread.
OK I get your that mate but up and down the land now there's people in Working men's clubs, Royal British Legions, Conservative Clubs, Labour Clubs and Snooker halls talking about "Some soft twat with a bag of orange dust" interrupting the snooker for a couple of hours. Not the issues relating to fossil fuel usage and the globes reliance on oil.
It can backfire if it produces a more security-conscious world. You've achieved that as a negative, which you then need to counter with positive results. But what positive result are you getting? Burning fossil fuels is causing climate change. Who doesn't know that?
Yes we're generalising of course, nowt wrong with that given the event in question, without the input of the general populous I'm not sure what this sort of activism will ever achieve. Finding a way to engage with people that educates them about the problem would be much more productive than spoiling their distractions from the daily grind. Something that doesn't feed the the shit rags where folk get their news from would make much more of a change. It's counter productive to use the same medium that's going to ridicule you as part of the game whilst thinking it will illuminate your cause. It's just daft.
To much tutting and outrage from a lot of the population of course.
I tend to agree it's counter productive and tbh looked weird. I imagine if I was young(er) and less cynical that I might have found it quite amusing and I guess they are trying to appeal to those people so that they can grow and keep causing disruption.
It's not just the disruption in this case LBJ, it's the vandalism of something that requires a significant amount of traditional craftsmanship that I think is where they've shot themselves in the foot with this one. An object that carries weight in the minds of the people who were there to enjoy the panicle of their chosen sport of interest. It's like taking the turf from wembley. It's not a seen as a protest it's taken as an insult.
Cool one example there. I'm sure I could go and find a 17 year old who doesn't like Snooker who thought it was pretty funny. It's obvious that you like snooker so this one has hit you a bit more. If they'd of disrupted a polo tournament suspect we'd see a bit more support.It's not just the disruption in this case LBJ, it's the vandalism of something that requires a significant amount of traditional craftsmanship that I think is where they've shot themselves in the foot with this one. An object that carries weight in the minds of the people who were there to enjoy the panicle of their chosen sport of interest. It's like taking the turf from wembley. It's not a seen as a protest it's taken as an insult.
Throwing Colston in the drink yes, trashing a slate bed snooker table No. Even though the value is the probably the same people meet over a snooker table for social engagement up and down the land. The only thing they could have done worse that this would be to dig JSO into the local crown green bowling turf with a shovel
My 17 yr old who plays snooker with his 84 yr old grandad in Hebden Bridge when he visits him, says they're a bunch of dicks. He's been an eco warrior since Primary school where he continuously terrorised me for putting the smallest of plastic items in the bin as the class's badge wearing eco cop.
Sure. And anyone tutting or outraged, you can argue with them. I think it's great that they did that and this is why. This is our country as well.
It achieved something in and of itself. It got that statue removed. It advanced a conversation that had been dragging on in Bristol for years about what to do about that cunt's name being all over the fucking place. It was about reclaiming a bit of the country to us.
Yes fair I did initially write that as well it was successful, but there were still lots of people that disagreed it with it and always will do whenever people try to take direct action.
I'm aware they weren't without support - I know some of the people loosely supporting them at the time, but then there was also a lot of shit from those that didn't agree with it in the city.
Civil disobedience is often (indeed more often than not) unpopular, and provokes a strong counter reaction from people and the state.
