Johann Hari admits copying and pasting interview quotes

[Idris2002]

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[Santino]

Well he is a Lib-Dem.

He's a member no less. Stuck his head above though.

Not only that, he joined after they formed the coalition.

Think about that for a moment.







*shudder*

 

[manny-p]

Has anyone mentioned that it has been reported in some quarters that he is the author of some incest porn stories which he put out on the net.

 

[killer b]

it may have been mentioned. we don't miss many tricks round here.

 

[phildwyer]

Has anyone mentioned that it has been reported in some quarters that he is the author of some incest porn stories which he put out on the net.

Either he has a particularly devoted friend and assistant whose full-time job is defending him online, or he wrote it.

It wouldn't surprise me to find him writing gay incest porn anonymously, since he has written about incest, porn and being gay in sympathetic fashion under his own name.

Nor would I think less of him for doing so, probably.

 

[killer b]

yeah tbf it's the plagiarism that's the main issue here - the sockpuppet underage incest porn is just a bizarre diversion.

 

[Athos]

Either he has a particularly devoted friend and assistant whose full-time job is defending him online, or he wrote it.

It wouldn't surprise me to find him writing gay incest porn anonymously, since he has written about incest, porn and being gay in sympathetic fashion under his own name.

Nor would I think less of him for doing so, probably.

He's written about incest in sympathetic terms?

 

[phildwyer]

He's written about incest in sympathetic terms?

Aye.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2002/jan/09/familyandrelationships.features103

 

[Athos]

Aye.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2002/jan/09/familyandrelationships.features103

Blimey!

 

[butchersapron]

I think killer b is right that for now this stuff is a sideshow, but here's an example of hari being dishonest etc over this issue as well.

 

[Athos]

Nothing wrong with a war on many fronts. And the taint of this sort of thing might make his media chums less keen to welcome him back into the fold, when the initial plagiarism stuff dies down.

 

[manny-p]

I think killer b is right that for now this stuff is a sideshow, but here's an example of hari being dishonest etc over this issue as well.

Aye but some of his writings are about pimping out and shagging his wee brother.

 

[butchersapron]

Read the thread mate, you're weeks behind.

 

[manny-p]

Read the thread mate, you're weeks behind.

Sorry didn't realise it had been mentioned before.

 

[butchersapron]

Just a few times!

The danger is, if the person whose wrote that fantasy about underage incest turns out not to be Hari then it'll undermine everything else.

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Did he get suspended this week from the Indy?

 

[Corax]

Did he get suspended this week from the Indy?

Yes.

And apparently there's some sort of connection with underage incest porn too.

 

[manny-p]

Just a few times!

The danger is, if the person whose wrote that fantasy about underage incest turns out not to be Hari then it'll undermine everything else.

Yep sorry I usually read through the thread. Maybe it ain't him he looks the type though

 

[revol68]

The incest porn brings him up in my book, who knew the little liberal brat had the ability for such radical depravity in him, the absurd hyper masculinity of the piece is probably the most subversive thing the clown has ever written.

Later that night, as he thanked me for the best birthday present he had ever received, I explained I was going to have his ass tattooed. `Property of Leroy Jones. Access strictly forbidden except to owner.' I had it done a week later. You might see us around, my boy and me. I'm the one with the sharp suit and the big dick. He's the one with the tight ass, staring at his brother with silent love, ready at a moment's order to drop to his knees or to part his ass cheeks for his boss. If you see us, come say hi and get your wallet ready. I have lots of fit, prime boys you can buy -- and one very special one you can't

 

[killer b]

I think killer b is right that for now this stuff is a sideshow, but here's an example of hari being dishonest etc over this issue as well.

The porn doesn't really interest me, except in a strictly OMG kind of way - I totally understand why you'd want to keep such examples of your work pseudonymous. The sock puppetry is important though ( if indeed it is him), as it further shows the lengths he'll go to in his deceptions, and shows up his excuses as the lies they surely are...

 

[Kid_Eternity]

Yes.

And apparently there's some sort of connection with underage incest porn too.

Er what?

 

[DaveCinzano]

From Private Eye #1081 (30 May 2003):

Despairing Indie hacks have a new nickname for gormless "wunderkind" Johann Hari, the newspaper's star hiring to replace David Aaronovitch. He is now known as Bum Fluff.

The teenage scribbler has already been caught dusting off copy penned for the New Statesman and passing it off as ground-breaking original thinking for his new bosses at the Indie. But it is Bum Fluff's apparently startling ignorance of basic history and geography that has most startled colleagues.

"Is Casablanca an Arab country?" he recently asked them. This was almost as jaw-dropping as the thoughtful columnist's question about Britain's military past. "Did British troops actually fight the Japanese in World War Two?" The boy will go far.

 

[revol68]

Er what?

Later that night, as he thanked me for the best birthday present he had ever received, I explained I was going to have his ass tattooed. `Property of Leroy Jones. Access strictly forbidden except to owner.' I had it done a week later. You might see us around, my boy and me. I'm the one with the sharp suit and the big dick. He's the one with the tight ass, staring at his brother with silent love, ready at a moment's order to drop to his knees or to part his ass cheeks for his boss. If you see us, come say hi and get your wallet ready. I have lots of fit, prime boys you can buy -- and one very special one you can't

 

[sihhi]

Hari dishonesty

Assertion: Middle-class parents drug their kids with Ritalin, poor parents can't do this.

For poor kids, the area is desolate. No leisure centre, one scabby little park, no arcades, nothing. Middle-class parents deal with the absence of public play-space for their children through expensive hobbies and clubs, by buying houses with big gardens, or - increasingly - drugging their kids with Ritalin. These are not options available to poor parents.

False claim about the charity Kids Company being "shut down" in 2002:

Yet - in a horribly apt example of how we treat these "feral children" throughout our society - Kids' Company is not being lauded by its local council or by its local MP, Harriet Harman. In fact, it is being shut down by populist Labour councillors who have whipped up fear among the local residents. They complain that it attracts "the wrong type of kids" to the area, although the vast majority of children using the arches live within ten minutes' walking distance.

http://www.johannhari.com/2002/09/23/feral-children-the-lies

Inability to see reality

http://www.johannhari.com/2007/12/17/the-new-lib-dem-leader-could-just-change-british-politics

One of the most appealing things about Clegg is that he is both totally British and genuinely European. He speaks five languages, and chose to be a Member of the European Parliament before migrating to Westminster. He is happy to look at what they do right on the continent – and try to bring it home.

But if he continues to call for these two bold progressive policies, it will be impossible for him to form a coalition with the not-so-secretly blue David Cameron. And Clegg just might – if he fights for them long and hard enough – help to change the increasingly lop-sided and ugly face of British politics.

Clegg fought for both policies [pupil premium and amnesty for illegals] and still formed a coalition with Cameron.


http://www.johannhari.com/2004/04/1...ns-who-appease-them-have-blood-on-their-hands

Thirty thousand people have been killed in the past year in a Colombian civil war facilitated, funded and fostered by our failing "war" to keep cocaine off our streets.

30,000 people killed in 2004 in Colombian civil conflict, where does the number come from? That's 82 people being killed every day.

Attacking the NHS whenever possible.

Some people have mislabelled this [transfering state taxation funds to private companies] as "part privatisation", because the Government has sometimes used tax money to send Granny Bloggs to a spare bed in a private hospital if she has been waiting in agony for a space in an NHS hospital for months. But as long as the system is free at the point of use, as long as my gran gets the same treatment as a duchess, who cares? How is it privatisation if the Government pays?

It's important to separate out what matters in this debate from what doesn't. The absolutely sacrosanct principle is that we all collectively pay for each other's healthcare through tax, and you get treated according to your need, not your ability to pay. Any hint of co-payment, any question of up-front charges, would be a violation of that principle, and would be a scandal. But once the service is free, the question of where you actually get treated should simply be a matter of technocratic problem-solving: what works best?

http://www.johannhari.com/2005/09/2...ance-to-keep-the-nhs-free-at-the-point-of-use

 

[TruXta]

I think killer b is right that for now this stuff is a sideshow, but here's an example of hari being dishonest etc over this issue as well.

Jesus fuck, that is hair-raising. Honestly, until now I've thought meh, he's a dishonest prick but so are most journos, but that's straight up malicious and sadistic. Not to mention fucking stupid.

 

[Riklet]

What an odious moron, quoting some pro-paedo professor in regards to teenage boys not experiencing emotional consequences from sexual abuse etc. Personally i am massively uninterested in what erotica Hari writes and what gets him off, but quoting spurious 'research' in his articles is pretty fucked up....

His name seems pretty tarnished at the moment, fingers crossed he's untouchable for at least a good while.

 

[DaveCinzano]

It's all a misunderstanding, Janet Street-Porter was visiting the Indy offices for old times' sake, spotted Hari and suggested, in her mouth-full-of-teeth way, that he get involved with the Ramblers' Association.

 

[Corax]

I won't lament his fall, but part of me thinks the celebration (not necessarily here) a little overdone when there are far worse offenders out there.

 

[killer b]

Name one.

 

[Corax]

Name one.

I didn't know it was a test!

I dunno. Let's start with the obvious one - Littlejohn?