krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Could somebody please condense what this is all about (haven't time to read 15 pages - sorry) and whether this is a smear campaign or the boy done wrong? Many thanks.
Johann Hari admits copying and pasting interview quotes
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the letters page of chicks with dicks also finds it difficult to find contributors who match up to his writing.
They've got him bang to rights for plagiarism and making things up.
PlaidDragon
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About 90% from smear campaign and 10% from the boy done wrong. All a bit pathetic really.
krtek a houby
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Cheers. Who has him bang to rights?
butchersapron
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Name a single smear.
hello johann.
PlaidDragon
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That he's responsible for writing gay incest porn?
PlaidDragon
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Aye that's it, anyone who defends someone who's being demonised HAS to be that person. Laughable. This is why the left is so fragmented, we concentrate on shitty little feuds rather than the bigger picture.
WTF has Hari got to do with the left?
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
*wrings hands*
butchersapron
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No one's actually said that - they've said that it's one of the few existing link to an email address of the person who has spent a near decade hunting Hari's critics down and that people have long suspected actually is Hari. It's not a smear, it's evidence in establishing just who this david rose is. Incidentally the almost equally odious Odone has now come out with this:
I fell out with Johann Hari – then 'David Rose' started tampering viciously with my Wikipedia entry
Next smear please Plaid, given that we have achived 90% smearage here, there must surely be more?
PlaidDragon
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Fucking hell, did he edit all your Wikipedias or something? Mountain out of a molehill springs to mind.
PlaidDragon
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Bollocks. That article clearly implies Hari is David Rose, and that DR is responsible for writing gay incest porn. I hate it when people try to act all naive, that's a clear character assassination that implies he's been writing gay incest porn in the dark corners of the internet, and you know it.
Call me old fashioned but I find plagiarism and dishonesty to be serious faults in a journalist.
PlaidDragon
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Shhh! Don't say that! You'll be demonised, next
Similarly to Hari, people will always have a pop when you tell them truths they don't want to hear. I like Johann Hari, he writes good articles, always makes salient points, and pisses off cunts like Littlejohn, which is always good. I'm not going to defend everything he's ever done, because I'm not the President of his fan club, he's made fuck ups like everyone has. However, when there's bigger fish to fry people are getting way too obsessive over this. Journalism would be worse off without Hari, simply because not many other mainstream journos are prepared to slag off the coalition like he is.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
That article might well do - the original that we've been talking about and referring to doesn't. It's still there for you to read if you're so concerned. It's there as part of the necessary building up a body and chain of evidence. So please, next smear. And whilst you're at it, can you tell us what the 10% he's been caught bang to rights is?
butchersapron
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You don't seem to know what this is all about. Could you tell us what you think it's about please? Also, why are people far more opposed to the coalition then Hari involved in this?
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TruXta
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You're pissing in the wind here PlaidDragon. I'm not entirely disagreeing with you on the mountain from a mole-hill angle, but then again I'm happy to see Hari lose his job. He's working as a journalist and tries to pass as one, not a fiction writer. His writing contains lies, plagiarism and misrepresentations. What more do you need to know? Whether he's written gay incest porn is neither here nor there.
butchersapron
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Would these truths be uncomfortable by any chance? You don't don't seem to be so keen on them yourself to be honest.
PlaidDragon
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I really don't know what your issue is with him, it's like an obsession. He got nailed for writing that interviewers said things they didn't, which he had taken from either previous interviews or their published works. Hardly crime of the century. Continually banging on about it and bringing other aspects (especially unfounded ones like the Rose tangent) into the original issue is a smear campaign. It's trying to smear him with the tag of bad journalist, which he isn't. Naive and a bit foolish to do what he did? Certainly. Master plagiarist and Machiavellian internet troll? Nah.
PlaidDragon
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Don't fucking patronise me you cunt.
butchersapron
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Anyone want to buy a plaid ostrich mug? Only one ever produced.
TruXta
tired
He's a journalist that indulges in lies. Why the fuck should he be given a get out of jail card? Because you sympathise with his politics? Get to fuck.
butchersapron
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I'm not patronising you, you genuinely don't seem to have a grasp of what's going on here - what the importance of this is, how or why it matters. You're basically saying that people you like can do what they want, and the only grounds for disagreeing with you are because of the powerful 'truth' (sic) of Hari's word. And i bet that you're on your hight rockin' horse over the NOTW. Don't you have any standards? You um...rotter.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Where is the rest of this 90% smears plaid?
PlaidDragon
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I've read all of this thread, I must have missed the bit about lies (and I'm not being facetious). Can I have a link please?
Unlike certain others I'm more than capable of changing my mind and admitting I'm wrong, instead of being a stubborn fucker.
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