It's not disingenuous to point out that on a bulletin board with pseudonyms you could be talking to a woman from Alabama who needs an abortion for all you know. Maybe be a bit more careful with your 'you lot' bullshit in future. Mind your fucking tongue.
For one thing that only electoralism can really save us, that politicians and the capitalist system can be trusted and relied upon and that I'm siding with reactionaries.
Its not my fault that women don't have access to abortion and its not something I believe in or support. People like me have given real practical solidarity to women who need abortions.
Its my view that electoralism is a diversion. So that means you can't put all that time and energy into it and at the same time do that for a genuine alternative. I also believe that the democrats have completely failed oppressed and marginalised groups and will continue to do so. Atleast, they will never do anywhere near enough for them.
This is just desperate bullshit if you ask me and how am I supposed to be psychic here? As far as I'm concerned your just proving my point and are trying to make me look bad and probably trying to shut down what I'm saying.
Yes misguided - the fundamentalism means he can't see the real-world effects of his abstract beliefs. Or he's just trolling.
There are about 150,000,000 people in the US whose only engagement with electoralism is to periodically visit a polling station and check a box for the Democrats. Doesn't seem to be all that much time and energy expended there.
But its you people who are actively supporting the system thats actually attacked women's reproductive rights. I'm suggesting an alternative. And its true that the democrats and the capitalist system have failed women here.
No, people don't just stop there, they engage in and spend their time and energy into other electoralist stuff.
There are activists for political parties of all stripes, there are those who expend time and energy. For the vast majority, it's a box ticking exercise.
They spend alot of time doing other stuff, even if its spending loads of time posting about it on the internet or generally promoting or being invested in their electoralist beliefs in various ways, even just in conversations with others for example..
You've lost me with this one. You're responding to my
I'm not accusing you of misogyny or homophobia, I'm just saying those are the effects of what you're proposing
And this is just silly. It takes me five minutes to fill out my postal vote.
And nobody is disputing that.
Its capitalism that strengthens and uses things like homophobia and misogyny to oppress and divide and I am opposed to all of that and suggesting and promoting an alternative. I'm anti-capitalist, so what you say here makes no sense. You on the other hand are actively and unashamedly supporting capitalism and its politicians.
Yeah, I spend too much time on here but I also do my bit to work towards autonomous alternatives from below.
Its capitalism and in any case, as I keep repeating, the dems haven't done enough and have failed women. Biden even has a history himself of being with the republicans on this issue ffs.
Ah the 'I'm tired' ploy. Also usually deployed when things are not going your way.
Well I'll stop you there. I don't think most are anti-capitalist, at least not in the sense of being socialists. There's a lot of centre-left liberals or social democrats but the presence of class politics on U75 is far less strong than it once was.
There clearly are people on U75 that will vote while also it see it as not the end point (which includes myself - I voted Labour in 2017 and 2019). But there are plenty of posters that do go further than that.
I don't disagree with much of what you say in the above. Mine was a very simplified take on the prevailing tone, primarily for the benefit of our amateur comrade who doesn't seem to do nuance or complexity particularly well.
I would never have known that from all the focus on electoralist politics on here.
