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Jamie Oliver is STILL a massive cahnt

Pricks like him don't do real work frances,to him sitting in some exclusive bar shovin charlie up his schnoz and discussing his next "project" with some tv arsehole is work,and he pays himself handsomely for it,cos he owns the fuckin production company...probly...


Is he not a proper chef then? I know little about him, but I do know that silly hours and hard graft are the norm for trainee chefs... and indeed for all the other low-paid workers in that industry.
 
Why would he make such a programme? Why don't you?

His passion is food. He obviously thinks about food a great deal more than politics. He makes great food, talks shite about 'politics'.

I'll tell you what I find tragically 'political'.

The people who have twigged the Sugar pushers/dealers are (unfortunately) patronising middle-class twats. Many working-class people seem to think filling their faces with sugary shite is quite a defiant thing to do.... a big 'fuck off' to the teacher-types who lecture them about what to eat. They actually have themselves convinced that 'no-one tells me what I can eat'... when the reality is that they have been trained to eat and do exactly what big business wants them to.

Meanwhile the sugar barons - who I am convinced will be viewed in 50 years time the way tobacco companies are now - are laughing their cocks off
I'm stugglin to see what your point is here liam with regards to oliver
 
Is he not a proper chef then? I know little about him, but I do know that silly hours and hard graft are the norm for trainee chefs... and indeed for all the other low-paid workers in that industry.
Come on now mate,if ye keep trying to straddle the middle ground like that someones gonna come and kick ye in the balls with a reality check...not me though obviously
 
Do the sugar Barons know my mum is nicking the Sugar Mice? cos me and my brother get one every christmas and I would not like her to anger the Sugar Barons lest their glucosate wrath end up candifying my whole line and leave us as just statues caught in the moment of agony as liquid sugar took our lives.
 
Do the sugar Barons know my mum is nicking the Sugar Mice? cos me and my brother get one every christmas and I would not like her to anger the Sugar Barons lest their glucosate wrath end up candifying my whole line and leave us as just statues caught in the moment of agony as liquid sugar took our lives.
Pillars of sugar
 
Come on now mate,if ye keep trying to straddle the middle ground like that someones gonna come and kick ye in the balls with a reality check...not me though obviously


I'm not on any middle ground.

Are we now also denying that catering workers do work ridiculously long hours (as the norm) ... just cos 'Jamie Oliver is a cunt'?
 
I'm stugglin to see what your point is here liam with regards to oliver


I suppose my point is that this is all a distraction... a circus....

proscribing fat as the enemy (rather than sugar) was a political decision taken in the US for geo-political/economic reasons... now the West is (by and large) fat as fuck and the poorest are also the fattest.

A bit like the smoker quoted above, we are reduced to convincing ourselves that eating sugary/salty shite is an act of self-sovereignty - when it is anything but.

and the left seems content to leave it alone... cos it's easier to call jamie Oliver a cunt
 
I'm not on any middle ground.

Are we now also denying that catering workers do work ridiculously long hours (as the norm) ... just cos 'Jamie Oliver is a cunt'?
Aye y'are.For starters oliver's hardly comparable to any low paid worker in the catering industry, ever.You've a valid point about the sugar industry and how that can be developed as a class debate.The people who are interested in what exactly is goin on here though have been sayin for pages that it's not necessarily about the food,there's plenty of posts on it explaining why.Then theres boibollocks whinging that people are just jealous of successful chef jamie, and his cookin skills, and his millions,and the deserving/ undeserving "poor",it's all here man.Have a wee read then start a thread on the sugar industry...
D'ye have a good time in derry by the way?
 
Why would he make such a programme? Why don't you?

His passion is food. He obviously thinks about food a great deal more than politics. He makes great food, talks shite about 'politics'.

I'll tell you what I find tragically 'political'.

The people who have twigged the Sugar pushers/dealers are (unfortunately) patronising middle-class twats. Many working-class people seem to think filling their faces with sugary shite is quite a defiant thing to do.... a big 'fuck off' to the teacher-types who lecture them about what to eat. They actually have themselves convinced that 'no-one tells me what I can eat'... when the reality is that they have been trained to eat and do exactly what big business wants them to.

Meanwhile the sugar barons - who I am convinced will be viewed in 50 years time the way tobacco companies are now - are laughing their cocks off

You're right about the sugar barons, but I really don't think the section of the working class people who habitually eat bad diets do so as an act of defiance - It's just what's there as in (easily) available isn't it? Coupled with what's affordable as well. An army of sugar-bloated (no doubt tracksuit clad) working class rebels has much to recommend it. But it just doesn't exist.
 
Why would he make such a programme? Why don't you?

His passion is food. He obviously thinks about food a great deal more than politics. He makes great food, talks shite about 'politics'.

I'll tell you what I find tragically 'political'.

The people who have twigged the Sugar pushers/dealers are (unfortunately) patronising middle-class twats. Many working-class people seem to think filling their faces with sugary shite is quite a defiant thing to do.... a big 'fuck off' to the teacher-types who lecture them about what to eat. They actually have themselves convinced that 'no-one tells me what I can eat'... when the reality is that they have been trained to eat and do exactly what big business wants them to.

Meanwhile the sugar barons - who I am convinced will be viewed in 50 years time the way tobacco companies are now - are laughing their cocks off

Actually human beings' relationship with sweet things stretches back a little bit further and is biologically programmed. Of course a corporation would take advantage of that in order to make money; why wouldn't they? But it isn't a new thing.
 
Are the Sugar Barons locked in an eternal conflict with the Salt Lords?

'So Lord Salt, it seems you have decided to approach me hmmm?'

'Approach you Baron Sugar? How quickly the paucity of imagination betrays you! even now my forces are surrounding your places of power. My Salt golems have impounded all your outgoing tate and lyle orders. The Kingdom of tastebuds is mine!'

'oh my dear dear Salt. Must we forever play this weary game of me vs thee? You have forgotten of course that I watch people smoking weed. I have the higher ground'

'Then I must yield and we must share. I am humbled yet defiant'
 
Aye y'are.For starters oliver's hardly comparable to any low paid worker in the catering industry, ever.
D'ye have a good time in derry by the way?

Did he start life as a rich, celebrity chef then? Or was he a proper chef first? If he was he'd have had to put the hours in.

Yep. Derry was class on nearly every level
 
Why's he stil digging... :D
‘I think our European immigrant friends are much stronger, much tougher. If we didn’t have any, all of my restaurants would close tomorrow. There wouldn’t be any Brits to replace them.’


 
Actually human beings' relationship with sweet things stretches back a little bit further and is biologically programmed. Of course a corporation would take advantage of that in order to make money; why wouldn't they? But it isn't a new thing.


human beings relationships with the coca plant stretch back centuries too. But it's only in the last 50 years that they have processed it on an industrial scale to sell to 'rich' westerners.... and then scaled-up/processed it once more to sell it to the masses.

I believe that history will judge the sugar corporations the same as the cocaine industry.... as preying scumbags
 
Did he start life as a rich, celebrity chef then? Or was he a proper chef first? If he was he'd have had to put the hours in.

Yep. Derry was class on nearly every level
Over 450,000,must have been heavin', some of my clan was there as well.He did start life as a very well off essex boy,which is probly how he managed to carve out his wee niche,which is one angle of what we're talkin about.Easy to put the hours in with that background, a career strategy,and your ma cleanin yer arse for ye.For that kind of financial incentive i'd put the hours in as well.Bit different putting in those kind of hours for hard physical slog and 8 pound an hour,if your lucky.
 
figures are a bit iffy tbh. I think they count every person every day. But it was fantastic and the atmosphere was real friendy.

Like I said, I know ver little about J O.

Oiche mhaith
 
Did he start life as a rich, celebrity chef then? Or was he a proper chef first? If he was he'd have had to put the hours in.

Yep. Derry was class on nearly every level

His dad had a pub in essex and his dad wanked over Thatcher though that might'nt be mentioned below. He did though.

https://www.jamieoliver.com/about/jamie-oliver-biog

And he wanked over Blair. And he's always been a twat - Honest to god Liam, if you're sticking up for Jamie just out of sheer contrarianism then on you go, but he is and always has been a wanker though.
 
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