Maybe James + James are going to supply creches at all the job centres so the children can play safely.......whilst young mum scans the computers looking for work. When a child reaches 3 they could supervise the younger ones + get a certificate from Job Centre that they have started 'work related activity' + receive their benefits without sanctions.
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When the kids get to 4 they could work for Derf so the mother can get a job
_angel_
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My friend who's a lone parent to an autistic boy, tried to rearrange her 'back to work' interview - because she'd have to bring her son -and they were stupid about it. When she pointed out she had an ASD kid to bring, their great response was 'it's ok we've got security if he kicks off!'.
So, no childcare, it's ok, we can restrain/ arrest your kid(s).
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Maybe she abandoned him when he was one year old and thats where all this is coming from. If he never had a loving parent why should anyone else? I'm sure some form of group childcare can be arranged in the workhouse basement, at least until the kids turn six and can start work themselves...
and people expect us to feel sympathetic for the frontline staff.
(This thread must not die).
(This thread must not die).
_angel_
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Some of the staff are alright, and just working in a shit environment.
Some of them are idiots, though.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Some of them are idiots and some of them are just downright nasty, spiteful cunts who genuinely think they're doing the world a service by cutting off someone's sole income
Well one employee fibbed...lied to me only yesterday......reassured me yes....we are processing it all early this year.....'you will get your money wednesday 31st'..........and surprise, surprise..........nothing, zilch, no income.........ring up + oh all the jolly DWP off today........a working day + they are skiving off.......after making sure that all bank accounts waiting for DWP payments are buggered.
Really I think we need some with intelligence running the DWP. As for this crap about working the system....how can we....... if the system does not work?
Really I think we need some with intelligence running the DWP. As for this crap about working the system....how can we....... if the system does not work?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
We already have. A stupid person could never create such a perfect Joseph Heller-esque inhuman nightmare of a thing.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
I don't doubt there's a horde of equally evil scumbags waiting to take his place. Probably the only useful thing to do to Purnell would to be to make a public example of him, head on a spike above the Tower of London sort of thing, as a warning to anyone who might wish to follow in his footsteps.
As to how we can create a proper debate about the role of the welfare state and the fundamental nature of our wage-slave economy, that's a tricky one. The idea that people absolutely must work no matter what they are doing or who they are doing it for seems so deeply ingrained, even among quote unquote liberals, that it's hard to make people realise just how evil all these reform plans are. Purnell's policies need to be attacked not at the level of semantics but at the level of fundamental principles. We need to defend the idea that as a society we must be prepared to look after those in need and to recognise that human lives are more important than economic factors. With the big recession coming dissatisfaction is bound to spread though, and that might provide some momentum for change.
Sort of People before Profit?........
Also it is class......just coz he went to grammar school.....does not make him educated to order/oppress others??? The connection with Freud + their 3 week blitz on the benefits system .........absolute arrogance....doh its supposed to be a democracy.erm discuss.
It is also having to cope with an ancient system that is painfully slow + full of paperpushers= government.
Apart from taking a train up to his area + asking them why they voted in such a lunatic............I am at a loss???
Also it is class......just coz he went to grammar school.....does not make him educated to order/oppress others??? The connection with Freud + their 3 week blitz on the benefits system .........absolute arrogance....doh its supposed to be a democracy.erm discuss.
It is also having to cope with an ancient system that is painfully slow + full of paperpushers= government.
Apart from taking a train up to his area + asking them why they voted in such a lunatic............I am at a loss???
The only way to get rid of him is to find some dirt on him; perhaps he was once guilty of benefit fraud - that sort of thing (fat chance of that!)
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I went to a grammar school and managed to turn out rational and still loyal to my class, so I don't think we can blame his schooling for the fact that he's a cunt.
I've said this so many times now I feel like a fucking parrot, but here I go again:
We don't live in a functioning democracy, IMHO. If we did, then as members of the electorate we'd have a damn sight more power to make sure that our MPs actually bothered to represent the views of their constituents in Parliament, rather than the current sham of pretending to do so, and merely representing the interests of their party and/or their party's funders.
What we live in is a pseudo-democracy, a phantom so far removed from the true meaning of democracy that it's a vicious joke.
As in many "safe" seats, the greatest force behind Purnell being voted in for his constituency was the fact that he represents the Labour party. A syphilitic monkey could win the seat in such a place, where tradition seems to count for more than sense.
You can guarantee it was the same scenario as Milliband in South Shields ie the party heirachy parachuting him in to a safe seat in preference to someone who actually would DO something for the constituents
_angel_
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I think the 'grammar' school Purnell went to was some kind of fee-paying private one, wasn't it?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Looks like it, similar to the "grammar school" William Hague went to.
The only hope is that people like you and the great many others who see it will vote them out.
panpete
Blokes name, birds body.
tongue in cheek reply, but serious at the same time.
Your saying, if I may ask, we are living in a covert dictatorship?
We don't get the choice, but are brainwashed into thinking we do?
I may have read you wrongly, if so, sorry, but if not...
...A possibly pessimistically balanced view, but one I share at this time.
Don't some famous leaders from history, turn dictator/go a bit insane, hitler, polpot, chauchescu (gotta scuse me spellin') but you catch my drift.
"I'm in power, and I am not mad, but I've got some radical plans, because If I can't make a positive change to the world, I'm sure gonna leave a particularly nasty negative legacy.
The most paranoid of paranoia, isn't gonna come near what I have up my sleeve.
Yours,
The instigator of self destruction,
J"
Your saying, if I may ask, we are living in a covert dictatorship?
We don't get the choice, but are brainwashed into thinking we do?
I may have read you wrongly, if so, sorry, but if not...
...A possibly pessimistically balanced view, but one I share at this time.
Don't some famous leaders from history, turn dictator/go a bit insane, hitler, polpot, chauchescu (gotta scuse me spellin') but you catch my drift.
"I'm in power, and I am not mad, but I've got some radical plans, because If I can't make a positive change to the world, I'm sure gonna leave a particularly nasty negative legacy.
The most paranoid of paranoia, isn't gonna come near what I have up my sleeve.
Yours,
The instigator of self destruction,
J"
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Almost, but not quite. It's more insidious and subtle than that.
Oh, we get "choices", it's just that they're ones that don't really matter much in terms of making a political difference, they're more to do with lifestyle issues, and we're made to feel that we're "empowered" by being able to make these "choices", when actually we're being fobbed off with a sleight-of-hand that deprives us of any meaningful participation in the political process as it now exists. Proportional representation might change that somewhat, but that very fact militates against PR ever being taken up by the political class.
You don't need to declare a dictatorship to wield almost absolute power, you merely need to scare people enough that they don't resist when you legislate their freedoms away.
Urbanblues
Was that it, life?
Anyone here been hounded by the DWP?
everyone on benefit has been hounded, I should imagine. That's the only way they know how to communicate with people. They are systematically incapable of actually helping people in a productive way at all.
hounded by the Die or Work Posse???? They are sick gov employees who play power[domination + submission roles) games with disadvantaged people.....
one employee whined at me 'do you want a letter or not?........as an organisation a letter should have been sent informing me of any changes...........having a fully grown northern woman........act like a child in a playground instead of like professional adults.
I do not take things personally ....if they are doing it to me......I multiply it........coz they must being doing it to others....less articulate, less able to defend themselves.
one employee whined at me 'do you want a letter or not?........as an organisation a letter should have been sent informing me of any changes...........having a fully grown northern woman........act like a child in a playground instead of like professional adults.
I do not take things personally ....if they are doing it to me......I multiply it........coz they must being doing it to others....less articulate, less able to defend themselves.
very very true
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Not on the issue of disability benefits, although my wife (who's also my carer) got hassle from JC+ about attending a "work-centred interview". She phoned them and said that of course she'd be happy to come in, given that they could satisfy the following conditions:
That they provide and pay for a carer to look after me (including assisting with "bodily functions") while she attended, or
That they hold the interview in an accessible building with facilities that disability-friendly so that I could come with her, and that they paid for transport to bring us to the interview and take us home.
They apologised for having bothered her, and said there would be no further letters.
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