probably just as well he doesn't - they'll probably do him for fraud!
james purnell hate thread
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You could be right but i woulda thought he woulda tried at least!
Just reading my letter of apologies from James Plaskitt.................and the time it took the DWP to correct its error. Think I will write back to him about his theory of 'work your way out of poverty' ideas.........especially when I was working and the DWP ruined it all......+ I have his letter as proof.
Think James Plaskitt is also as bad as James Purnell.
Think James Plaskitt is also as bad as James Purnell.
_angel_
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I wonder if the tories will reverse this make-parents-of-tiny-babies-work, or that will get conveniently forgotten/ increased.
Forcing a single parent to put a baby of one year into daycare for up to 10 or so hours a day is not good for either parent or baby. I mean that's even if you actually assume there even is a childcare place for everyone that wants it.
If you can't spend some time at home with your mum/ dad when you're one year old, when can you?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
That's all the time you get to raise your children is it? One year? I hope Mr Purnell has taken into account the massive cost to the NHS of an entire generation needing serious psychotherapy in 20 odd years time to deal with their abandonment issues
panpete
Blokes name, birds body.
Humans need to be with their primary caregiver, the first few years of lives. If not, this has profound developmental devastation impact on the child.
The government know this, they know, full well, how a psychopath is made.
Todays daycare kids are tomorrows psychopaths, thanks James.
One solution is to give the single parents work in the childcare industry. Oh, wait
The government requires enlightening with regard to mathematics. Stupid bastards cannot see beyond the end of their brown noses.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Of course, the corollary to this, if it is enacted, will be right-wingers chuntering on about single mums deliberately churning out more and more brats, just to avoid work.
can you get daycare for kids that young?
Can the government?
This plan is doomed to failure as they must know there aren't the places available (nevermind having to subsidise childcare for the parents who will be forced to attend JC 'outings' in the guise of looking for work, or working for the soon-to-be-frozen NMW).
THis government seems to be having a closing down sale...on sanity.
The way things are going, they'll be offering financial incentives for sterilisations.
This government is officially "fucking stupid" and require a performance related dock in pay.
e2a: Purnell really is a nasty piece
http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=1797
On the other hand maybe a single parent shouldn't have a kid if they need to rely on the state as soon after the kids birth.
How's that time travelling moral guardian advice giving machine working out for you? Those new Hindsight-is-20-20 shades doing the business?
coulda woulda shoulda.
panpete
Blokes name, birds body.
All other forms of income have been made illegal. - entrapment.
_angel_
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Not really, and I wouldn't think having all one year olds in daycare was desirable, much less achievable.
_angel_
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Maybe look at the person who left, rather than appropriating all the blame on the person remaining to do the job.
Its just easier to pour the scorn on the person left doing the job, particularly when they tend to be women.
I doubt very much men would let themelves be treated so badly, en masse.
Like all right wingers, XR75 argues in a flawed way. People can't turn back the clock and undo decisions abotu whether to have kids or not. So the question is what do we do; new labour and it's media cohort wants to punish people it seems. THis is a wholly offensive and stupid way to run a society. All it does is breed guilt and resentment. This is then sold as 'tough love', but it isn't anything other than control and oppression.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
This country has the 12th longest coastline of any country in the world. In short, plenty of cliffs
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
On yet another hand perhaps a one year old child ought not to suffer as a result of his or her parents straying from the path of righteousness you so kindly laid out for them. Even chimps know that young children need a full time caregiver who can give constant attention; if we decide that economic factors are more important than our children then we will effectively be taking several steps back down the evolutionary ladder, to the position currently occupied by fish. Ain't progress brilliant?
Is that because the majority of single parents ,within the first year of birth, have both the partner and the resources needed to raise a child disapear,if not then what's your point?
What about the other cases which aren't as simple as a bad partner leaving.
_angel_
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Most cases of lone parents bringing up a child are as a result of a relationship split *bad* partner or otherwise.
Very, very, very few single mums get pregnant on purpose. I'd like to see the facts that prove 'most' or even a sizeable minority of single mums 'do it for benefits'.
Rightwingers like to assume there's an army of girls out there trying to get pregnant on purpose because they are all so clued up they know how to 'work' the benefits system... when the truth is they're not even clued up enough to make their bf use contraception.
Tbh anyone who was that clued up about the benefits system is probably doing better than even the people who work in that field!
panpete
Blokes name, birds body.
This country has the 12th longest coastline of any country in the world. In short, plenty of cliffs
The government have probably created plans to enlist loads of little hitlers with power issues, to patrol the cliffs.
No one will be getting out that easily.
Besides, there is chance of survival, albeit slim, but no person really wanting to die, wants even a fraction of a percentage of a chance of being *paraplegic, then, to be thrown off incapacity benefit/out of their home, because, they can use their arms, although they cant speak, feed themselves, or wipe their arse.
*(I have met someone who tried twice)
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Often the need is unpredictable, for example with reference to the continuing scandal of companies whose female employees take maternity leave misbehaving and/or trying to avoid their duties to returning employees.
_angel_
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Then there are people who just won't employ mothers and sometimes, even, women!
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Yep, and as long as they don't come out and actually state that they don't want to employ mothers or women in general, then there's not a damn thing that can be done about it, either.
And anyway, I don't see why it should be the children that suffer because of financial penalties on their parents....
The govt and their Tory tabloid friends try to say its to force lazy single mothers to work. But the thick fuckers don't realise any "bad" mothers penalised by the new fascist rulings will be the first to use child benefit for their own use and neglect the kid.
_angel_
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Well no-one is going to do that officially... but reading some of the 'comments' on newspaper websites, I've seen several people saying they would not employ a mother (and some even saying they wouldn't hire women!!)
Apparently the CRE found mothers to be the most discriminated against section in the workplace -- above ethnic minorities and even disabled people.
But it's so hard to prove.
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