Jacob Rees-Mogg - Common People
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Ming
I shot a man in Reno...
I always felt a bit sorry for the HIGNFY team because when they had him on it it kind of humanised him.
He is, like Trump, a narcissistic sociopath. Probably a primary one (born with those PD traits). He was asked as a child what his ambitions were. He said he wanted to be ‘world king’. Now he was young but when they asked Cameron why he wanted to be PM he responded ‘because i thought I’d be good at it’. And then threw the whole country under a big Red fucking Brexit bus. And then walked away literally whistling.
The sense of arrogance and entitlement is actually quite hard to empathically conceptualize.
Ming
I shot a man in Reno...
I think you might go to the hot place for that one. Yahweh’s pretty big on that. Almost half the Ten Commandments are about ‘don’t you be sleeping away from home with other deities’
Humberto
Relax
I think you might go to the hot place for that one. Yahweh’s pretty big on that. Almost half the Ten Commandments are about ‘don’t you be sleeping away from home with other deities’
I know. But it worked. Brutal legacy in finding the promised land.
Ming
I shot a man in Reno...
Ming
I shot a man in Reno...
No. I know.
This is part of the reason i love this place so much. You can say things which are considered to be outrageous in the MSM which are true but nevertheless are deemed to be fringe.
I hate that expression ‘conventional wisdom’.
Anyway…Happy Christmas dude! Good to have a conversation with you.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
If we get a new Saviour born to us every year, how come there aren't dozens of them running around the place, walking on water, opening wineries, and performing miracle cures?
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Starry Wisdom
It's a true miracle that the likes of Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees mogg haven't been strung up from lamppostsIf we get a new Saviour born to us every year, how come there aren't dozens of them running around the place, walking on water, opening wineries, and performing miracle cures?
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
If we get a new Saviour born to us every year, how come there aren't dozens of them running around the place, walking on water, opening wineries, and performing miracle cures?
Because, as demonstrated by Dostoevsky in his novella The Grand Inquisitor, the christian church could not suffer a true messiah to live.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
ah the mysteries of Christianity. Such as why god gave birth to himself so he could die, but not die, in order to save us from the sin he also created, but then he said he didn't come to change the law anyway. When you're done, talk to some Calvinists...If we get a new Saviour born to us every year, how come there aren't dozens of them running around the place, walking on water, opening wineries, and performing miracle cures?
Is Mogg a Calvinist?
He apparently attends Tridentine masses.
Something the vast majority of Catholics finished with in the 60s..
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
He probably thought "what's the weirdest, most niche corner of an already fairly outre Christian sect, that I can join?"
Pretty much the same as he did for his politics.
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Starry Wisdom
To be fair the vast majority of Catholics finished with them because the pope finished with them, a church council finished with them, not because the vast majority of Catholics woke up one day and thought they'd move on to something new
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Starry Wisdom
That's by no means the weirdest, most niche xian sect out there. The Plymouth brethren for example
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Perhaps we have found JRM's limits, weirdness-wise. Which would be quite weird in itself.
Perhaps being a Plymouth Brethren, er, brother looked a bit too much like hard work.
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Starry Wisdom
He could have joined the societas rosicruciana in anglia, the masonic rosicrucians, if he was looking for something xian rather off the beaten track
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Unfortunately he is very much with us now
Well up to 1962 the Catholic mass was in latin. And priests faced the altar away from the congregation.
Rees Mogg is just sticking to the outdated stuff.
There is a church near where I live that haa Tridentine masses and the priests (2) dress in the old fashioned gear when out and about.
They do not have anything to do with the local community. In fact they steer clear of people.
Its off putting.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
If only catholic priests who use the vernacular mass had steered clear of people for the past sixty years, how much happier those decades would have been
Fair enough. You mean abusive priests.
But there have been those who did help others and helped build communities. They don't get much air time or recognition. Nor would they necessarily want those.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Tbh I suspect that the sets of abusive priests and those who help others and helped build communities are not as mutually exclusive as you'd like them to be
If you mean the likes of Bishop Casey then yep. Massively involved in community and building up areas that were poverty stricken. Helping lots of people. He was having sex with a young woman and fathered a son whom he then denied...
Many wouldnow feel that priests like him should have been allowed to marry and have families.
Doesn't take from the fact he denied his own son which was a pathetic shitty thing to do.
As for the pedophile priests. Yes..I agree with you.
I remember being interviewed for a job by a priest who was part of a singing group of piriests..a real "happy go lucky" type. Always doing stuff in the community.
(I didnt get the job cos I didnt have a dick and didnt play hurling)
But it turned out the guy was abusing little kids. He ended up in jail a few years ago.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Sadly, when you look at pretty much any prolific child abuser, you tend to find that they are just as good at gaslighting/grooming the adults around them as they are the children they abuse. It's almost as if it's part of the playbook.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
that recent?? i'd have thought 1861 was more his style
The latin masses ended in 1962.
They moved to vernacular masses then.
Jacob Rees-Mogg, the fake
Interesting article...by Will Self.
Reference to the upper middleclassness of Catholicism in posh parts of England. Quite the opposite of Irish Catholicism...mostly poor and working class right into the 60s.
I particularly like the reference to Self being on a tv panel with RM in 2018.
" “Self got out of his chair and made as if to jump on Rees-Mogg. But Rees-Mogg clearly saw what was coming and before Self got to him, he was up, out of his seat and away. He ran out of the studio faster than you could imagine, like a very frightened rabbit. Self didn’t even bother going after him.” Despite which, my menacing behaviour has had a lasting effect on Pollard: “Since then, I have never been able to see Rees-Mogg without seeing his petrified expression as he thought he was about to be decked.”
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Someone I know from Uni, she goes to mass in Latin, and would probably be best described as a “trad wife”. I’m pretty sure she also grew up in JRM’s constituency too
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Calvinism is a trendy modern fad to mogg.
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