Is it fractionMan's fault?

[fractionMan]

Yeah, sorry about that. My psychic diagnostic tools are on the blink.

 

[marty21]

Bet you wish you had gone for the charter stuff now

 

[danny la rouge]

So, Shibboleth had an update recently didn't it? Tbh without more info it's hard to tell if it was a shibboleth problem or something at the vendor's end.

It's hard to say.

 

[magneze]

Here's is the legendary original thread: http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/threads/218366-Welsh-Labour-Closing-Down-Bulletin-Boards

"At the age of 28 Jonathan was elected to Pontypridd Town Council, and noted a similar path to former US President Bill Clinton, who was also elected unopposed to public office shortly after graduating from law school."

Here it is.

Enjoy

Internet comedy gold.

 

[bonathanjishop]

Some may say that planning a community websites so badly that it was unable to sustain itself speaks volumes of your own inadequacies and shortcomings in this area. I'd tend to agree.

Your websites weren't successes. They were failures and you let the users down.

Part of the process of building successful on-line communities involves thorough and extensive planning and research, and by cobbling together a site that flopped because of your poor financial planning, you've actually left users worse off.

What were the names of these sites please? I'm sure they would have been indexed by Google

They were: A Guide to Robin Hood and Northern England - http://www.robin-hood.uk.com - and Llantrisant Online - http://www.llantrisant.info. The latter one is still in the Internet archives, where you should be able to see how I followed Derek Powazek's guidelines for closing an online community.

 

[editor]

They were: A Guide to Robin Hood and Northern England - http://www.robin-hood.uk.com - and Llantrisant Online - http://www.llantrisant.info. The latter one is still in the Internet archives, where you should be able to see how I followed Derek Powazek's guidelines for closing an online community.

Llantrisant Online's forum appears to have attracted no more than three posters (including yourself) before turning into another of your self promoting personal websites.

Example post:

Am I the only one here?
Am I the only one posting here ... where is everyone ?

And that's your idea of a successful community is, it?

As for http://www.robin-hood.uk.com, that seems to have underperformed so hopelessly that it may as well have never existed as far as Google is concerned.

You're really showing us how it's done here Mr Internet Expert.

 

[ddraig]

Jonathan is currently updating his website

how long does it take JB? surely you are in recess from council?

 

[bonathanjishop]

You're really showing us how it's done here Mr Internet Expert.

No, I describe how it is done here:
http://www.crocels.com

 

[fogbat]

There's a whole Centre?

I'm picturing something like the CTU offices in 24.

 

[meurig]

No, I describe how it is done here:
http://www.crocels.com

Increasing participation in online communities

How did that work out for your communities then?

 

[bonathanjishop]

Increasing participation in online communities

How did that work out for your communities then?

You can read about them in this conference proceedings:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Proceedings...tion-Centred-Design-of-E-Learning-Communities

 

[Frankie Jack]

Oh dear..........

 

[editor]

No, I describe how it is done here:
http://www.crocels.com

Why should anyone take your comments on, "increasing participation in online communities" seriously when your own, badly planned and short-lived attempt only attracted three users (including yourself) before collapsing in a heap of total fail?

 

[editor]

You can read about them in this conference proceedings:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Proceedings...tion-Centred-Design-of-E-Learning-Communities

Stop trying to make money out of this community by spamming your associate links to irrelevant books. Last warning.

 

[bonathanjishop]

Why should anyone take your comments on, "increasing participation in online communities" seriously

All these people do, including Jenny Preece:
http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?cites=10037623329700496756&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=2000&hl=en

 

[editor]

All these people do, including Jenny Preece:
http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?cites=10037623329700496756&as_sdt=2005&sciodt=2000&hl=en

So in your opinion, managing to attract three people to a board which promptly collapsed because the idiot in charge was too stupid to plan ahead and consider how it would be funded is your idea of a successful "online community", is it?

And you think that your experience - along with your other site that was such a flop Google didn't even bother to index it - makes you qualified to lecture others about how a community should be run, yes?

I've no idea who Jenny Preece is, btw.

 

[bonathanjishop]

I've no idea who Jenny Preece is, btw.

She's an online community expert.

 

[Proper Tidy]

She's an online community expert.

She can't be that much of an expert if those actually managing one of the largest online communities haven't heard of her, can she?

Btw, re the abject failure of your online communities - did you ever consider the possibility that it may have been the subject matter?

 

[editor]

She's an online community expert.

But with your laughable attempt at an online community only attracting three posters (including yourself) before collapsing due to poor planning, you, clearly, are not an 'online community expert.'

 

[bmd]

Just wanted to post on the thread. Carry on JB.

 

[stupid dogbot]

She's an online community expert.

Is that a (-nother made up) job title?

 

[toggle]

got to love the name dropping. there's probably a dozen numpties like bishop telling people how important they all are because they are quoting each other in papers in one pathetic little circle jerk.

 

[fractionMan]

got to love the name dropping. there's probably a dozen numpties like bishop telling people how important they all are because they are quoting each other in papers in one pathetic little circle jerk.

You've pretty much summed up academia there.

 

[kabbes]

fogbat, please append "Online Community Expert" to my achievements on your website.

Thank you.

 

[fractionMan]

On a vaguely related note, when trying to figure out the answer to "is this person a member of the university and what are their access rights?” Cardiff university have just finished identifying 88 distinct types* of users of their systems.

Isn't identity management fun!

* not including sub-types

 

[kabbes]

Is one of the 88 types the "two fat ladies" type?

 

[fogbat]

fogbat, please append "Online Community Expert" to my achievements on your website.

Thank you.

Done.

Though any further changes are going to cost you. Cost you dearly.

 

[fractionMan]

Is one of the 88 types the "two fat ladies" type?

https://gabriel.lse.ac.uk/twiki/bin/view/Projects/IdMToolkit/UserCaseCardiffJul10
specifically: https://gabriel.lse.ac.uk/twiki/bin...iffJul10?filename=/Appendix_4_-_MCE_Table.pdf

fascinating stuff.

Lots of people make their living pumping out this type of thing. For years and years and years.

 

[quimcunx]

Fogbat, can I be a ''stakeholder representative in the oline community stakeholder community'', please?

Actually no, can I be ''A Big Man''?


cheers.

 

[fogbat]

On a vaguely related note, when trying to figure out the answer to "is this person a member of the university and what are their access rights?” Cardiff university have just finished identifying 88 distinct types* of users of their systems.

Isn't identity management fun!

* not including sub-types

Obviously, you have Lurker, Troll, Big Man, Flirt, Snert, E-venger, MHBFY Jenny, Chat Room Bob, Ripper, Wizard and Iconoclast. I can't think what the other 77 types might be.