Proper Tidy
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Heeeeeey
Is it fractionMan's fault?
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fractionMan
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a legend in his own lifetime
fractionMan
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Bagend.
Tolkien did have a sense of humour after all.
Tolkien did have a sense of humour after all.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
I'm sort of related to tolkien - via mrs21 who is related to him via marriage -
very tenous
el-ahrairah
forward communism, forward gerbils!
bishy, as a devotee of robin hood, how do you live with the fact that he was a class struggle anarchist who devoted his life to a redistribution of wealth and cared for the poor and needy, whilst your political alignment and post on here show you to be a reinforcer of economic hierarchies, a pro-business, pro-church, hater of the poor who supports imposition of inequality on to the neediest in society?
Do you not think that that's a bit odd?
Do you not think that that's a bit odd?
Proper Tidy
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A successful one? No.
I believe everyone should be equal before the law, and that sovereignty should lie with the people. Ideally we would have no government, just communities which are self-sufficient and self-regulating.
The only national state institutions we need are the NHS and HMRC. The purpose of the state should be to collect tax and redistribute in order to provide universal provision of basic needs. So, you should be able to every two years walk into any opticians and get a free sight-test, and free prescription glasses up-to a certain value, which you can upgrade. It shouldn't matter how wealthy you are, as the current system where this is only available to the poor keeps people in poverty.
I am pro-business, I think everyone should own one, or part of one. As for the church, I am an agnostic who takes part in Christian culture. I think religion can give people a disciplined lifestyle with opportunities for thought and social engagement, therefore improving health, but all are man-made and not to be taken as 'the truth', which is inaccessible with current science.
I'm an egalitarian. I believe everyone should have as much wealth as they are capable of using. So, I disagree with the existence of wealthy people with millions in the bank which they are not using. That money should be in the economy, developing new products, creating new jobs. If they are not using it, they obviously have more than they need, so more needy people should have it.
Robin Hood actually conducted a marriage, of Alan a Dale. Latest evidence shows he was despised by the Church.
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hiraethified
I'm still getting my head around a self professed 'Internet Expert' who appears to consider himself in the top 50,000 of all humankind thinking that a bulletin board that attracted two users was some sort of success, and that anyone is going to believe his deceitful tosh about the aforementioned board then being closed down due to excessive bandwidth charges.
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hiraethified
Fair enough, and certainly in line with Robin Hood. But Robin Hood believed in violent direct action to bring about such a state of affairs. Why do you feel Hoodian tactics are unfeasible in today's environment?
Robin Hood, if he had Asperger Syndrome, would have had difficulty communicating himself, hence why he took bold actions to get his message across. For example, his fights with Little John and Friar Tuck. Like many with Autism, he was highly principled, courageous, with a strong sense of justice. I've spotted many a student rebel who has autism - it is actually quite funny how passionate young autistic people are (like Robin Hood), compared with how disheartened they get when they are older and suppressed by those with power. Maybe there's a Robin Hood in all of us?
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
Maybe so, maybe so indeed.
But really Jonathan, if Robin Hood were alive today don't you think he'd be off fighting with the Zapatistas or living on a commune in Oregon or something? I don't think he'd be a NuLabor Councillor and Internet Leader, laudable as such roles indupitably are. What is preventing you from unleashing your inner Hood?
An acceptance of mine and society's limitations.
Oh aye, that'd be it. Back to the drawing board.
Anyway, you strike me as a good man, Jonathan, and you'd have my vote if I lived in your constituency. Not everybody can take this sort of ribbing with equanimity, fair play to you.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
In any case friaries and that were seperate from the established church and ploughed their own furrow. They sometimes had beef with the orthodox church who were mad greedy.
You're right, if Friar Tuck had been around between 1160 and 1198 as some claim was Robin Hood's lifetime, then he would have been a Cistercian Monk, not a Friar.
well its good to see you back and i can't help but admire your single mindedness and thick skin. can i just ask for a bit of clarification on this statement please:
does this mean that you don't believe in god but are happy to get xmas cards and pressies, or that you don't believe, but attend church (in hope of getting some granny votes, like your ex master blaire)?
does this mean that you don't believe in god but are happy to get xmas cards and pressies, or that you don't believe, but attend church (in hope of getting some granny votes, like your ex master blaire)?
It means that I have found people who go to church to be generally friendly and good intentioned and the values of Christianity to be ones I respect and think are a good path to follow for a society in which everyone is included and welcomed. However, it also means I am not convinced that the Bible carries anymore weight about the world's history than any good science fiction novel. I'm open minded about the existence of a higher being of any form, but don't think science can provide the answer either way, so think that the only scientifically valid faith is no faith.
The site had 99 users within the first 10 weeks of launching. I don't have any page impression data, but you must remember re: the bandwidth - this was 2000-2003 and the sponsor was a small charity and I wasn't exactly rich either.
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hiraethified
Stop fucking bullshitting.
I've been running sites since 1995 and I know all about bandwidth charges - and there is no way on earth a hopelessly failing niche website with barely any users would even come close to incurring "high bandwidth charges" - even with your fantasy bustling chat room.
Your 'latest events' section managed just two entries for the whole of 2002, with the 'latest news' section only mustering the grand total of three entries.
Your discussion boards limped to a grand tally of just six empty threads for the entire duration of the site (!), so the traffic would be so light as to barely register - and you could have got free hosting with any one of a multitude of free sites, anyway.
So why did you make this charity pay money? And what charity was this? Why is there no registered charity number visible on the site?
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
It was the Llantrisant Town Trust, who commissioned the site. You can read the full report in my degree dissertation:
http://www.jonathanbishop.com/Library/Documents/EN/docCs311Report.pdf
GarfieldLeChat
fucking awesome but wrong
tbh you need to be taken to court by them for fraud then...
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