Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

[PR1Berske]

His cars explode, Twitter is now 4Chan, his rockets are destroying the environment, and there are plenty of reports about his attitude towards women (in general) and Grimes (in particular).

I'm fairly certain where I land in the Musk debate!

 

[PR1Berske]

But its you that is key to creating the picture of him here, you have quite a fixed idea of him and you don't move from that.

Given that it's highly likely he's autistic, he himself has said so, it's not cool to call him android or not fully human.

Plenty of ways you can criticise him without doing that.

Oh please don't do this.

We can all call him android, not fully human, a snake oil salesman, and not also be attacking his (alleged/reported/presumed) autism.

Musk has billions of money and has yet to make a credible step in the right direction without being offensive, generating hate, encouraging prejudice, or just getting things hilariously but dangerously wrong. I'm not going to become a fan because I might be using euphemism for a disorder he might not even have.

 

[Chilli.s]

Howard Hughes for this century

 

[bimble]

Howard Hughes for this century

yup, apart from I think so too and am usually wrong .

I think the man is going to fall spectacularly, will end up one of those people who live in a hotel and are terrified of germs, occasionally glimpsed through a zoom lens and have books written about them by psychiatrists.

 

[bimble]

He’s not complex he’s a rich man child struggling to stay relevant

this is just lazy, isnt it? What are you in 7 words. I dunno if its even true that some people are more complex than others anyway.

 

[AverageJoe]

this is just lazy, isnt it? What are you in 7 words. I dunno if its even true that some people are more complex than others anyway.

Me in seven words. A hapless, shambling, honest man doing his best.

(just saying like)

 

[Storm Fox]

Inquisitive, anxious, socially awkward, middle-aged lefty.

This sounds like a great idea for a thread.

 

[bimble]

These are great for online dating profiles, all three of them incl the musk one.
I don't know how to do that, which is one of the 752 reasons online dating's not for me.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Inquisitive, anxious, socially awkward, middle-aged lefty.

This sounds like a great idea for a thread.

Yeah except everyone else would go for that description too.

 

[Artaxerxes]

this is just lazy, isnt it? What are you in 7 words. I dunno if its even true that some people are more complex than others anyway.

Not that deep, just a bit weird.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Inquisitive, anxious, socially awkward, middle-aged lefty.

This sounds like a great idea for a thread.

What7Words

 

[Storm Fox]

Yeah except everyone else would go for that description too.

That's why we are here in this little corner of the internet.

 

[teuchter]

Elon Musk has a company that can land space rockets back on the ground, standing upright. Do any of his critics here? No, didn't think so. And I bet the NASA "experts" said that was impossible ten years ago.

 

[Yossarian]

What7Words

Just some guy who is bad at counting

 

[spitfire]

.

 

[spitfire]

Elon Musk has a company that can land space rockets back on the ground, standing upright. Do any of his critics here? No, didn't think so. And I bet the NASA "experts" said that was impossible ten years ago.

 

[Artaxerxes]

Elon Musk has a company that can land space rockets back on the ground, standing upright. Do any of his critics here? No, didn't think so. And I bet the NASA "experts" said that was impossible ten years ago.

I sleep in a large bed with my wife who loves me

 

[spitfire]

Elon Musk has a company that can land space rockets back on the ground, standing upright. Do any of his critics here? No, didn't think so. And I bet the NASA "experts" said that was impossible ten years ago.

I’ve got one. So you’re wrong.

 

[bimble]

Elon Musk became the richest man in the world again last month, apparently. (for a while mr. Loius Vuitton was number one but not now.)
Not sure what i'd do if that was my job, being the richest man in the world, but i kind of hope it wouldn't be the rockets that stand up.

 

[Sue]

Hahaha. I worked at a company once who got in a load of consultants and they renamed all the conference rooms things like "resolve" and "commitment". Even that was better than this.

See you at 3 in Endeavour!

We're moving offices and there's a competition going on as we speak to come up with a naming convention for meeting rooms.

Along with all the yawnsome standards (Computing Pioneers! London Landmarks! etc), Famous Dogs is still in the running.

'I'll meet you in Lassie at 4.'

'The Finance Team are in Rin Tin Tin.'



(Probably insensitive to mention Laika.)

 

[Sue]

This was the most interesting bit from that ex-twitter person the other day, how he’s seemingly unable or unwilling to make use of the expertise around him.

Eta this bit
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I like how she doesn’t try to explain why, just says it was annoying and baffling.

I've worked in a couple of tech companies with owners/CEOs like that.

Not sure why they bother to hire people with expertise unless hiring then ignoring them is some kind of power thing. Which is quite likely really. Expensive way of doing things though.

 

[Artaxerxes]

I've worked in a couple of tech companies with owners/CEOs like that.

Not sure why they bother to hire people with expertise unless hiring then ignoring them is some kind of power thing. Which is quite likely really. Expensive way of doing things though.

The laws of physics and computing must bend to the owners will and the experts need to work out how, the owner is the visionary who makes it possible

 

[BigMoaner]

I sleep in a large bed with my wife who loves me

Even as very much a sad divorced dad that made me cackle

 

[mwgdrwg]

Quietly destroying the fabric of societies around the world. "Ok"

Yep, Fucked up isn't it.

 

[agricola]

We're moving offices and there's a competition going on as we speak to come up with a naming convention for meeting rooms.

Along with all the yawnsome standards (Computing Pioneers! London Landmarks! etc), Famous Dogs is still in the running.

'I'll meet you in Lassie at 4.'

'The Finance Team are in Rin Tin Tin.'



(Probably insensitive to mention Laika.)

 

[mojo pixy]

Elon Musk has a company that can land space rockets back on the ground, standing upright. Do any of his critics here? No, didn't think so. And I bet the NASA "experts" said that was impossible ten years ago.

FWIW if I had his money and tech I'd be busy solving world hunger rather than shitposting on twitter.

 

[BigMoaner]

FWIW if I had his money and tech I'd be busy solving world hunger rather than shitposting on twitter.

Its weird. There's a small part that feels a bit sorry for him, stress on the small. There's a slight sense of tragedy with this guy.

 

[mojo pixy]

Its weird. There's a small part that feels a bit sorry for him, stress on the small. There's a slight sense of tragedy with this guy.

I can't say I share that. He's had and retains opportunities and wealth beyond the dreams of avarice and he's pissing it all away on a literal vanity project. 100% Wanker.

 

[gosub]

FWIW if I had his money and tech I'd be busy solving world hunger rather than shitposting on twitter.

Elon Musk gave a mysterious $5.7 billion donation weeks after he dared the UN to show him its plan for solving world hunger | Fortune

www.google.com

 

[mojo pixy]

Elon Musk gave a mysterious $5.7 billion donation weeks after he dared the UN to show him its plan for solving world hunger | Fortune

www.google.com

Not good enough tbh. And most of that article is under a payblur