Is Elon Musk the greatest visionary or the greatest snake oil salesman of our age?

[JimW]

I've never stuck my fingers or a metal implement inside a toaster, WTF is wrong with you people

Tip it up straight into your mouth?

 

[two sheds]

No tongues

 

[DaveCinzano]

When your brand has entered ordinary language like hoovering, you'd have to be a prick of Musk proportions to just chuck that away.

He's portaloosing it big time

 

[kabbes]

I think he's hedging on Crypto taking over from FIAT currencies. And that's the aspect that x.com and it's associated app will take.

It wouldn’t surprise me. But that’s a child’s cartoon version of money and finance. Crypto has no mechanism in real-world politics and power by which it can “take over” from fiat money. Money IS fiat money, because it is the state that provides the political power and physical infrastructure on which economic activity relies. And finance can’t exist outside the rules created by the state, because if the state decides that an activity is illegal, that activity only has a criminal market presence, which excludes the vast, vast majority of everyday people

 

[BigMoaner]

It wouldn’t surprise me. But that’s a child’s cartoon version of money and finance. Crypto has no mechanism in real-world politics and power by which it can “take over” from fiat money. Money IS fiat money, because it is the state that provides the political power and physical infrastructure on which economic activity relies. And finance can’t exist outside the rules created by the state, because if the state decides that an activity is illegal, that activity only has a criminal market presence, which excludes the vast, vast majority of everyday people

Always appreciate your in-depth wonga posts kabbes

 

[bluescreen]

All you need for the toaster:

 

[Kaka Tim]

All you need for the toaster:

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How do you plug it in?

 

[Artaxerxes]

It wouldn’t surprise me. But that’s a child’s cartoon version of money and finance. Crypto has no mechanism in real-world politics and power by which it can “take over” from fiat money. Money IS fiat money, because it is the state that provides the political power and physical infrastructure on which economic activity relies. And finance can’t exist outside the rules created by the state, because if the state decides that an activity is illegal, that activity only has a criminal market presence, which excludes the vast, vast majority of everyday people

Rishi is dead keen on it which tells you all you need to know

 

[kabbes]

Rishi is dead keen on it which tells you all you need to know

But that is just a different mode of fiat currency. Like expanding from cash into electronic transfer.

 

[Joe Chi Min]

 

[Chilli.s]

Shoudda called it E not X, everyone likes an E but many dont like an X

 

[Red Cat]

Yes there's a human being inside there, that's what makes it compelling. He's not quite full android yet, whilst zuckertwat is at 98% android.

If he showed some humility "Sheesh guys just gotta roll with the punches, I'm making some mistakes"

A fuller human would manifest. But like trump it's probably not in his armoury. Gains bro.

I think he does say that, pretty sure he's fairly open about seeing everything as an experiment and that mistakes are made.

 

[BigMoaner]

I think he does say that, pretty sure he's fairly open about seeing everything as an experiment and that mistakes are made.

fair enough, i am going on the picture here tbh, so could well be wrong.

 

[Ranbay]

Not that it matters much but i log in less and less now.... used to use it daily and argue with people, now im like, fuck it better things to do.

 

[Red Cat]

fair enough, i am going on the picture here tbh, so could well be wrong.

But its you that is key to creating the picture of him here, you have quite a fixed idea of him and you don't move from that.

Given that it's highly likely he's autistic, he himself has said so, it's not cool to call him android or not fully human.

Plenty of ways you can criticise him without doing that.

 

[BigMoaner]

I don't like the guy. I think he is largely a destructive force in the world. I'll call him what I like, ta.

 

[BigMoaner]

Anyway, not going to spend time arguing wether it's okay to call Elon fucking musk an android or not carry on.

 

[Red Cat]

Sounding as thin skinned as Elon there BigMoaner

 

[NoXion]

Sounding as thin skinned as Elon there BigMoaner

Nah, he hasn't called anyone a "pedo guy".

 

[Red Cat]

Crack on then.

 

[Ranbay]

This place has all the arguments i need now

 

[spitfire]

This place has all the arguments i need now

No it doesn’t.

 

[Ranbay]

No it doesn’t.

Wrong room

 

[spitfire]

Wrong room

Right room.

 

[kabbes]

I think he does say that, pretty sure he's fairly open about seeing everything as an experiment and that mistakes are made.

The problem is that not everything should be or needs to be an open experiment. He’s indulging himself “experimenting” in things that are elementary knowledge to people with actual expertise in that area. He needs to find a way to incorporate that expertise rather than believing he needs to always make the mistakes himself. Particularly when he’s playing with people’s lives

 

[two sheds]

I'm a great believer in the PDSA cycle myself - yes you experiment but you take some sort of scientific approach so you learn from what's gone before.

 

[a_chap]

I'm a great believer in the PDSA cycle myself - yes you experiment but you take some sort of scientific approach so you learn from what's gone before.

I'm a great believer in the PDSA too

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[two sheds]

Aye, much better than RSPCA (Recognize Study Plan Check Amend/adopt) they're just amateurs

 

[Red Cat]

The problem is that not everything should be or needs to be an open experiment. He’s indulging himself “experimenting” in things that are elementary knowledge to people with actual expertise in that area. He needs to find a way to incorporate that expertise rather than believing he needs to always make the mistakes himself. Particularly when he’s playing with people’s lives

I agree, he's driven by a need for control.

I'm not defending him in any way, I only post as I keep getting notifications for this thread because I haven't turned them off, but I just don't think the way he's talked about here is very accurate a lot of the time. Every time I say actually I don't think that's quite right, I get a reply as if I'm a Musk fan girl. Its annoying.

 

[two sheds]

that's a typical response of a Musk fan boy














sorry had to be done though.