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consumer135
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"Under the US proposals, a new body comprising Britain and the United States -known as The Authority - would decide how income from the sale of Iraqi oil would be spent.The UN, which currently controls Iraq's oil revenue, would be confined to an advisory role"
You really would have thought that the 'newspeak' propoganda mandarins could have choosen a less sinister sounding name! e.g. 'Iraqi interim reconstruction council' or something.
'the authority'
You really would have thought that the 'newspeak' propoganda mandarins could have choosen a less sinister sounding name! e.g. 'Iraqi interim reconstruction council' or something.
'the authority'
WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld said Friday it is not possible to know how long U.S. forces will have to remain in Iraq and suggested that stabilizing the newly liberated country could take longer than a year.
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Both Rumsfeld and Franks rejected the notion that coalition forces failed to protect priceless artifacts in Iraq's national museum. The defense secretary said he was told that some of the museum's contents "had been secreted away" as part of an inside job.
"I was told personally by someone who went to the museum three weeks before that the door was closed, and there were very few items that were visible through the doors," Rumsfeld said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,86462,00.html
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Both Rumsfeld and Franks rejected the notion that coalition forces failed to protect priceless artifacts in Iraq's national museum. The defense secretary said he was told that some of the museum's contents "had been secreted away" as part of an inside job.
"I was told personally by someone who went to the museum three weeks before that the door was closed, and there were very few items that were visible through the doors," Rumsfeld said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,86462,00.html
Tubthumper
thumps tubs
To reiterate: I hope the rescuing troops shot every fucker within eyesight at that hospital. [/B][/QUOTE]
Johnny - I don't think you meant that no ?
Johnny - I don't think you meant that no ?
So squelch
do you believe this piece of Iraqi crap that probably came from the same moron that said the us/british troops have not even reached Iraq yet!!!
" Including the doctor who probably saved her life and risked his own when trying to drive her to a US military position only to get shot at "
What utter bollox, still I guess it suits the propaganda from people like you who were on the losing side AGAIN
do you believe this piece of Iraqi crap that probably came from the same moron that said the us/british troops have not even reached Iraq yet!!!
" Including the doctor who probably saved her life and risked his own when trying to drive her to a US military position only to get shot at "
What utter bollox, still I guess it suits the propaganda from people like you who were on the losing side AGAIN
the scouser
the voice of reason!
major nuclear sites looted -
The illegal war waged against Iraq on the pretext of halting the proliferation of “weapons of mass destruction,” appears to have resulted in precisely the spread of potentially deadly nuclear materials that the US invasion was supposedly meant to curtail. Those who will suffer the immediate consequences are the Iraqi people as well as US soldiers deployed in the area.
According to numerous reports from Iraq, several major nuclear sites have been repeatedly looted over the course of the past month, since the US military took control of Baghdad. High levels of radiation have been detected in several neighborhoods as a result of looters carting off nuclear materials.
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The illegal war waged against Iraq on the pretext of halting the proliferation of “weapons of mass destruction,” appears to have resulted in precisely the spread of potentially deadly nuclear materials that the US invasion was supposedly meant to curtail. Those who will suffer the immediate consequences are the Iraqi people as well as US soldiers deployed in the area.
According to numerous reports from Iraq, several major nuclear sites have been repeatedly looted over the course of the past month, since the US military took control of Baghdad. High levels of radiation have been detected in several neighborhoods as a result of looters carting off nuclear materials.
rest here
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
More evidence of 'liberation' : http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3014871.stm
[President Bush Friday has proposed creation of a special U.S.-Middle East Free Trade Area to reward nations that renounce terrorism, embrace the rule of law, honest government and open markets.
He said creation of the free trade zone would be accomplished through negotiations with individual nations over the next 10 years. Mr. Bush said countries that wish to take advantage of his proposal must replace corruption with good business practices and good government]
http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=B28741B4-BA9C-4D36-88093C527C65F37E
hmm corruption - pot calling kettle.
He said creation of the free trade zone would be accomplished through negotiations with individual nations over the next 10 years. Mr. Bush said countries that wish to take advantage of his proposal must replace corruption with good business practices and good government]
http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=B28741B4-BA9C-4D36-88093C527C65F37E
hmm corruption - pot calling kettle.
[Iraqi Mujahideen rebels 'disarm'
Although their camps were bombed by the Americans during the war in Iraq, some members of the Bush administration apparently believe that Washington should use the group as a way of putting pressure on the Tehran government.
But other US officials argue that Washington should not work with groups which it designates as terrorist. ]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3017415.stm
Although their camps were bombed by the Americans during the war in Iraq, some members of the Bush administration apparently believe that Washington should use the group as a way of putting pressure on the Tehran government.
But other US officials argue that Washington should not work with groups which it designates as terrorist. ]
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3017415.stm
Mullahs taking control of healthcare
Its great to see an iraqi independence movement forming. Healthcare professional and mullahs, seems like a sensible start:
"His resignation is the first step on the way to success," said Dr Alla'a al-Shumari, 32, an anaesthetist at the Mansur teaching hospital in Baghdad. "We need people we respect, chosen by us."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,953987,00.html
Sadr arrived from exile in Iran to lead the largest Shia grouping around the revolutionary al-Dawa Islamic party. His grandfather, father and son were all killed by Saddam. He has, notably, been excluded by the US from a commission of five appointed to form a government"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,953669,00.html
Its stirring to see patriots taking control of the destiny of their country. I think the US is riding a tiger here. Iraqis are too capable, well educated, and strong willed to be duped by a puppet government and it doesnt look like what evolves will be particularly friendly to the oil oligarchy that the us has become.
Its great to see an iraqi independence movement forming. Healthcare professional and mullahs, seems like a sensible start:
"His resignation is the first step on the way to success," said Dr Alla'a al-Shumari, 32, an anaesthetist at the Mansur teaching hospital in Baghdad. "We need people we respect, chosen by us."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,953987,00.html
Sadr arrived from exile in Iran to lead the largest Shia grouping around the revolutionary al-Dawa Islamic party. His grandfather, father and son were all killed by Saddam. He has, notably, been excluded by the US from a commission of five appointed to form a government"
http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,953669,00.html
Its stirring to see patriots taking control of the destiny of their country. I think the US is riding a tiger here. Iraqis are too capable, well educated, and strong willed to be duped by a puppet government and it doesnt look like what evolves will be particularly friendly to the oil oligarchy that the us has become.
Johnny Canuck3
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I'm actually quite big.
Johnny Canuck3
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Under the covers with bigfish....
Johnny Canuck3
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Johnny - I don't think you meant that no ? [/B][/QUOTE]
well, I kinda did. That whole thing makes me mad. Whatever they did to her was so traumatic, that her brain has created a dead zone.
What sort of emotion does that generate in you?
EXPOSED: "GO IN, ALI BABA, IT'S ALL YOURS!"- CALLED THE AMERICANS
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3311.htm
consumer135
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One key argument for war was the peril from weapons of mass destruction. Now top officials are worried by repeated failures to find the proof - and US intelligence agencies are engaged in a struggle to avoid the blame
http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,953497,00.html
Iraq runs out of petrol (oh the irony)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3017277.stm
There is no widespread hunger in Iraq, the executive director of the UN World Food Program (WFP) said here Sunday.
"There is no widespread hunger across the country. Most families have enough food for three to five weeks," James Morris told reporters.
Attacks and harassment amidst the security vacuum in Iraq have forced refugees and other foreigners to flee the country and become refugees again, this time in Jordan, Human Rights Watch said today in a new report, "Flight From Iraq." http://www.reliefweb.int/library/documents/2003/hrw-irq-10may.pdf
http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,953497,00.html
Iraq runs out of petrol (oh the irony)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3017277.stm
There is no widespread hunger in Iraq, the executive director of the UN World Food Program (WFP) said here Sunday.
"There is no widespread hunger across the country. Most families have enough food for three to five weeks," James Morris told reporters.
Attacks and harassment amidst the security vacuum in Iraq have forced refugees and other foreigners to flee the country and become refugees again, this time in Jordan, Human Rights Watch said today in a new report, "Flight From Iraq." http://www.reliefweb.int/library/documents/2003/hrw-irq-10may.pdf
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
I'm actually quite big.
Well good for you.
Well good for you.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
A fish with a mouth this big will swallow most anything.
Johnny Canuck3
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No use congratulating me, I didn't have much to do with it. Mostly genetics, and getting nutritious food as a baby.
JC, you are losing it man! Maybe you need to reexamine your diet.
Look at the lives that have been ruined in Iraq and ask yourself whether you would welcome the same USUK attention on Canadians if you were arbritarily chosen as being the host of the worlds next most evil dictator by the worlds superpower? Can you not make that connection, or do you think this abhorrent mentality will be perpetually directed outwardly at muslims?
On the subject of Lynch, remember the driver of Dianas car who being such a vital witness to what happened the night she was killed was also unable to remember what happened that night. It happens but this seems to be some kind of exercise in amnesia by the US who really dont want Lynch to remember her ordeal. I was moved to tears to read that the Iraqis had put her in the best room of the hospital and were giving her the best treatment they had because she was an american! My god they were dropping bombs on the Iraqis! I am also moved to tears to hear about the children in Iraq who cannot speak now having witnessed the horrors of war first hand.
Look at the lives that have been ruined in Iraq and ask yourself whether you would welcome the same USUK attention on Canadians if you were arbritarily chosen as being the host of the worlds next most evil dictator by the worlds superpower? Can you not make that connection, or do you think this abhorrent mentality will be perpetually directed outwardly at muslims?
On the subject of Lynch, remember the driver of Dianas car who being such a vital witness to what happened the night she was killed was also unable to remember what happened that night. It happens but this seems to be some kind of exercise in amnesia by the US who really dont want Lynch to remember her ordeal. I was moved to tears to read that the Iraqis had put her in the best room of the hospital and were giving her the best treatment they had because she was an american! My god they were dropping bombs on the Iraqis! I am also moved to tears to hear about the children in Iraq who cannot speak now having witnessed the horrors of war first hand.
New Iraqi TV Complains of U.S. Censorship
But the Iraqi Media Network has postponed plans to air a half-hour live news program because of disputes over editorial control.
"As journalists we will not submit to censorship," said Dan North, a Canadian documentary maker advising Iraqis at the station, which plans two hours of programming a night for viewers in Baghdad.
"This whole idea was about starting the genesis of an open media so we will not accept an outside source scrutinizing what we produce."
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=2733916
But the Iraqi Media Network has postponed plans to air a half-hour live news program because of disputes over editorial control.
"As journalists we will not submit to censorship," said Dan North, a Canadian documentary maker advising Iraqis at the station, which plans two hours of programming a night for viewers in Baghdad.
"This whole idea was about starting the genesis of an open media so we will not accept an outside source scrutinizing what we produce."
http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=2733916
http://news.ft.com/servlet/ContentS...y&c=StoryFT&cid=1051390006565&p=1012571727172
just in case Iraqis were in any doubt, "shoot to kill" policy will now be used to send the message home that any lawlessness will not be tolerated.
just in case Iraqis were in any doubt, "shoot to kill" policy will now be used to send the message home that any lawlessness will not be tolerated.
Johnny Canuck3
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Well, I HAVE been eating quite a few quarter pounders and mcflurrys lately: is it that obvious.
Gulp; might we be next? I guess it's possible. But I'll get more worried after canada has launched an attack across the Bering strait to get the riches of Vladivostock; when Imperious Ruler Jean Chretien orders the Canadian Forces to use chemical weapons against the restive Saskatchewanians of Regina and Leader; when Canada has been cut off from the world for a decade, in order to get the Canadian Parliamentary cabal to bend to the wishes of the world community; when the Canadian Forces are conspiring to build a nuke, somewhere deep in the Saguenay; when Chretien's son is routinely torturing the Ottawa Senators every time they lose an NHL game (wait - I think one of the Chretien kids was arrested for rape or something; I'd better watch my mouth); and when invading Canada would serve any purpose at all, besides the vast expenditure of US military money.
Besides, half of canada would wave the stars and stripes if the Abrams tanks rolled down the street, right now... goodbye Loonie, hello Greenback...... and hello emigration to California....
"This is not a country in anarchy," Bremer said at his first news conference since arriving in Iraq on Monday. "People are going about their business. They are going about their lives."
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As Bremer spoke, looters a few blocks away were scrambling through the skeleton of the Ministry of Information, which caught fire as they scavenged the ravaged building. Outside, weary U.S. soldiers watched the smoke rise above the building and shrugged. They used to arrest looters and take them to a makeshift detention center nearby, where they would be set free within hours. Now they simply watch the looters from afar and wait for fire engines that never arrive. None of the soldiers had heard that their top commander announced plans Wednesday to hold looters for 20 days.
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/world/5870933.htm
Shades of the Iraqi Information Minister?
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As Bremer spoke, looters a few blocks away were scrambling through the skeleton of the Ministry of Information, which caught fire as they scavenged the ravaged building. Outside, weary U.S. soldiers watched the smoke rise above the building and shrugged. They used to arrest looters and take them to a makeshift detention center nearby, where they would be set free within hours. Now they simply watch the looters from afar and wait for fire engines that never arrive. None of the soldiers had heard that their top commander announced plans Wednesday to hold looters for 20 days.
http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/world/5870933.htm
Shades of the Iraqi Information Minister?
Straw admits allied forces may never find Iraqi WMD
Source:http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/may2003/stra-m16.shtml
Source:http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/may2003/stra-m16.shtml
[Introduction to IRAQ Indymedia
Welcome all Iraq IMC people and supporters!
This new site has been provided by volunteers in Bristol to help get things moving and provide a publishing forum for grass roots media activity in Iraq, in Baghdad and other cities, for anyone who wants to participate.
We are particularly excited about the expected publication of the Al MuaJaha newspaper - the Iraqi Witness - being produced on the ground in Baghdad, outside of the mainstread and US controlled media. We hope to publish content from the paper on this site in the next few days. ]
http://www.almuajaha.com/
Welcome all Iraq IMC people and supporters!
This new site has been provided by volunteers in Bristol to help get things moving and provide a publishing forum for grass roots media activity in Iraq, in Baghdad and other cities, for anyone who wants to participate.
We are particularly excited about the expected publication of the Al MuaJaha newspaper - the Iraqi Witness - being produced on the ground in Baghdad, outside of the mainstread and US controlled media. We hope to publish content from the paper on this site in the next few days. ]
http://www.almuajaha.com/
Baghdad pays the postwar price: 242 die in three weeks
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=406657
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/middle_east/story.jsp?story=406657
consumer135
Member
"IRAQ Indymedia" excellent 
except they dont seem to be listed on the indy media main site yet?
except they dont seem to be listed on the indy media main site yet?
Iraqis accuse UK, U.S. troops of torture - Amnesty
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L16517646.htm
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L16517646.htm
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