' I Was Wrong ' .....

[Nylock]

"

Look. It’s definitely tough to hold your hand up as a Labour centrist and say you didn’t get everything right, especially when you’re the kind of person who’s always really certain of your intellectual and political magnificence, but just a splash of self-awareness and graciousness would help ease the pain.

An arrogance that awesome in scope is not something that can be kept in check with just the one serving of humble pie.

 

[ska invita]

An arrogance that awesome in scope is not something that can be kept in check with just the one serving of humble pie.

on rereading it i think she was being a bit sarcastic
its hard to tell tbf it could definitely be true too!

 

[emanymton]

wealthy feminist Claudia C is barely even bothering trying to try + backtrack 2 yrs of this garbage, just throwing the usual misogyny cards around at hard to see perps :

This has probably been picked up on before. But fucking hell, the first of those. It just shows how shallow their feminism is. Anyone with an ounce of genuine feminist belief would want to see danczuk swinging from the nearest lamppost.

 

[19force8]

Ruthlessness and entitlement are on the syllabus at Eton and Harrow.

Ruthlessness and entitlement are the syllabus at Eton and Harrow.

 

[Idris2002]

Meanwhile in another part of the forest:

Why the Rise of Corbyn's Labour Party Should Worry the West

 

[DotCommunist]

Meanwhile in another part of the forest:

Why the Rise of Corbyn's Labour Party Should Worry the West

wankers

 

[cantsin]

This has probably been picked up on before. But fucking hell, the first of those. It just shows how shallow their feminism is. Anyone with an ounce of genuine feminist belief would want to see danczuk swinging from the nearest lamppost.

CCP and her strain of miltantly bourgie feminism is just dismal beyond words.

 

[cantsin]

putting this up for posterity's sake, and cos it's so nicely done (video - extended version )

 

[Idris2002]

wankers

 

[frogwoman]

nobody fucking understands politics though. Nobody knows whats going on, I certainly don't.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Personally I'm all in favour of removing Jonathan Freedland's right to vote.

 

[Idris2002]

nobody fucking understands politics though. Nobody knows whats going on, I certainly don't.

So wouldn't you feel better without the weight of that 'right to vote' on your shoulders?

Personally I'm all in favour of removing Jonathan Freedland's right to vote.

Personally, I'm all in favour of removing Jonathan Freedland's. . .

 

[Idris2002]

Next week: hot takes from Claude Bucket, Hector Demijohn, and Paul Mason-Jar.

 

[frogwoman]

So wouldn't you feel better without the weight of that 'right to vote' on your shoulders?


Personally, I'm all in favour of removing Jonathan Freedland's. . .

Well there's big problems with 'bourgeois' parliamentary democracy but you can't fucking say that people don't have the right to vote based on knowing about politics. These wonks have all missed the results of three or four major elections now so should we take their right to vote away?

 

[Idris2002]

Well there's big problems with 'bourgeois' parliamentary democracy but you can't fucking say that people don't have the right to vote based on knowing about politics. These wonks have all missed the results of three or four major elections now so should we take their right to vote away?

Yes. Yes we should.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

So wouldn't you feel better without the weight of that 'right to vote' on your shoulders?


Personally, I'm all in favour of removing Jonathan Freedland's. . .

The second half of your post is a thing of beauty.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Idris2002]

The second half of your post is a thing of beauty.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Having seen the first-class crowd, would do the same again.

 

[articul8]

come in articul8

I supported JC from day one

 

[ska invita]

I supported JC from day one

you supported him from at least Brown-era! Foresight

 

[J Ed]

I suspect that something that is going to become more apparent as the story of the campaign is written is the influence of organisers from the Sanders campaign. This influence is really evident in the improvement in media output, the snappiness of the rhetoric from Corbyn and others and the role of youth canvassers.

“People on the Left Have Dreamt of This Situation for Generations”

I really have to pay tribute to certain pockets of the party — Momentum, Young Labour Trade Unionist Network, and plenty of enthused volunteers — for their impressively hard work, and those who understood that the support shown in the Democratic primaries for Bernie Sanders, for example, could have impact here too.

In many ways, Bernie was almost a model for this election. It took Jeremy a little while to come to that model of operation — Bernie just went out and told it straight. It gave people hope.

 

[hash tag]

Talking of not understanding politics - I just voted for my business to fail!

Leave voter complains his business will fail unless he can keep his 2,500 European workers

 

[likesfish]

fuckwit hope is farms got kaput stupid should fucking hurt

this is the problem with brexit
its like asking people to vote on which radar system we put in the type 26 frigate most people won't know or care what the best radar system is so are likely to vote for some other reason that has little to do with the radar system.
is. I am not an expert on the EU so I voted to stay as we are .

 

[Santino]

fuckwit hope is farms got kaput stupid should fucking hurt

this is the problem with brexit
its like asking people to vote on which radar system we put in the type 26 frigate most people won't know or care what the best radar system is so are likely to vote for some other reason that has little to do with the radar system.
is. I am not an expert on the EU so I voted to stay as we are .

So you voted to keep the existing radar system without understanding anything about its safety record or date of obsolescence.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Talking of not understanding politics - I just voted for my business to fail!

Leave voter complains his business will fail unless he can keep his 2,500 European workers

Only thing worse than remoaner is a regrexiter.

 

[likesfish]

well a better option than choosing the super new one from BAE that doesnt exsist yet

the Shackleton's defence of being mistaken for a raf memorial warbird might have been rubbish but at least it got airborne unlike the nimrod awac which didnt

 

[mather]

this is the problem with brexit
its like asking people to vote on which radar system we put in the type 26 frigate most people won't know or care what the best radar system is so are likely to vote for some other reason that has little to do with the radar system.

What a load of bollocks. This nonsense is as bad as the Remoaners who kept trying to compare the referendum with surgery, thinking themselves to be oh so clever by saying crap like 'oh, you don't get to choose your surgeon so why should you have any choice over membership of the EU'.

The difference between choosing which radar system to have installed and membership of the EU is that the former does not affect the whole population whereas the latter does to a very large degree and it is only right and proper that people be given a voice over those things which do affect them. Only an anti-democrat would disagree with that as the only logical conclusion of such thinking is that people should not have the vote at all.

 

[bendeus]

Talking of not understanding politics - I just voted for my business to fail!

Leave voter complains his business will fail unless he can keep his 2,500 European workers

I recently had a drunken pub conversation with a local farmer. In between random threats to gas badgers he announced that he had voted leave even though the removal of the agricultural subsidy would effectively bankrupt him (he was certain that they'd 'come up with something' to keep him afloat, however). He also felt that any threat to trade posed by our leaving the single market would be offset by our being able to 'sell machine guns to the Brazilians'. Thoroughly unrepentant

 

[likesfish]

What a load of bollocks. This nonsense is as bad as the Remoaners who kept trying to compare the referendum with surgery, thinking themselves to be oh so clever by saying crap like 'oh, you don't get to choose your surgeon so why should you have any choice over membership of the EU'.

The difference between choosing which radar system to have installed and membership of the EU is that the former does not affect the whole population whereas the latter does to a very large degree and it is only right and proper that people be given a voice over those things which do affect them. Only an anti-democrat would disagree with that as the only logical conclusion of such thinking is that people should not have the vote at all.

well that only really works if its an EDUCATED VOTE which was the point . voting to leave to keep muslim's out was fucking stupid as was the 350 million quid for the nhs .

it was a bullshit vote for bullshit reasons

 

[Raheem]

I recently had a drunken pub conversation with a local farmer. In between random threats to gas badgers he announced that he had voted leave even though the removal of the agricultural subsidy would effectively bankrupt him (he was certain that they'd 'come up with something' to keep him afloat, however). He also felt that any threat to trade posed by our leaving the single market would be offset by our being able to 'sell machine guns to the Brazilians'. Thoroughly unrepentant

Presumably, this is before he became Secretary of State for Exiting the European Union.

 

[mather]

well that only really works if its an EDUCATED VOTE which was the point .

No, that is not the point at all, the opposite in fact!

Either people are allowed to vote or not, there should never be any other qualifiers such as 'intelligence' tests. Do you really think that qualifying peoples votes in such a way would not be open to abuse by those who control the system? How do we define whether a person is intelligent and who gets to make that definition?

voting to leave to keep muslim's out was fucking stupid as was the 350 million quid for the nhs .

I voted Leave and have no regrets about doing so and it wasn't for either of the two selective reasons you have given either. Many people voted leave for many different reasons and interests and the same applies to those who voted Remain. I know it suits the liberal/Remoaner narrative to suggest otherwise and that the Leave vote was one big homogeneous voting block motivated by lies and bigotry but that is simply not the case.

it was a bullshit vote for bullshit reasons

Somehow I suspect you would not be saying that had the vote gone the way you wanted. When the liberals and Remoaners had their demonstrations in London last year they had Nick Clegg and Alastair Campbell as their guest speakers, you know those two paragons of political honesty who would never do such a lowly thing as make promises they had no intention of keeping (tuition fees) or making up lies to justify a criminal war of aggression against Iraq. I mean you couldn't make it up, a protest held by people who claim the referendum was based on lies being addressed by two of the most dishonest men in British politics.