What's wrong with Labour

[_Russ_]

I'm a consultant, so I'm fully aware of the differential offers that have been made (rejected by the way).

Ah anoher virtue signalling jerk with a merc, I reckon half the fuckers on here are similar prosecco socialists
My heart bleeds

 

[teqniq]

Ah anoher virtue signalling jerk with a merc, I reckon half the fuckers on here are similar prosecco socialists
My heart bleeds

What the actual fuck is your problem with NHS employees, particularly doctors? You came out with completely ill-informed guff on the strike thread regarding doctors and now you're doing it here. Get a fucking grip.

 

[two sheds]

Medical consultants can't have opinions

My sis was a consultant psychiatrist for years and could have made shitloads in private practice but believed in the NHS so didn't. She's not got a merc by the way.

 

[brogdale]

My heart bleeds

If it did, you'd be glad of one of those "jerks".

If I wanted to read the bitter, small-minded negative solidarity that you spout on here, I'd buy the Daily Mail.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Ah anoher virtue signalling jerk with a merc, I reckon half the fuckers on here are similar prosecco socialists
My heart bleeds

Perhaps you could elucidate your own circumstances so we can similarly judge?

 

[hitmouse]

I don’t remember it from at the time because as I recall I decided that it was going to be a tory brexit which was going to be shit so I didn’t really care.

I did check FactCheck: Corbyn’s changing Brexit stance which is from 2019. It accuses Corbyn of “changing his stance many times” but does seem to speculate and make stuff up a lot.

The only things the piece seems to actually confirm were that Corbyn consistently and over many years made a lot of (very reasonable) criticisms of the EU, and after the Referendum said that the Labour party would abide by it. He was always strongly opposed to a no-deal Brexit, and after a 2019 Conference vote passed a resolution for a second Referendum on the final bill he backed that. Was that equivocatory? It sounds fair enough given the Brexit we eventually got but as I say I wasn't paying a huge amount of attention.

Yeah, not the biggest Corbyn fan here but his Brexit policy seemed fair enough, anyone given the task of trying to balance a generally pro-EU party membership with a pro-Brexit voter base would've had to end up being a bit equivocatory one way or another.
In contrast, of course, Starmer's always had a clear and firm position on Brexit, although what that is tends to change from day to day:

‘Is it a U-turn?’: what Keir Starmer has said about Brexit redress

Labour leader’s latest words on Brexit close door on former ambition to soften or overturn it

www.theguardian.com

 

[Serge Forward]

"Virtue signalling"

 

[redsquirrel]

Industrial action really does separate out the arseholes. Solidarity becoming 'virtue signalling'

 

[hitmouse]

In fairness to Russ, he does seem quite capable of being an arsehole even when there's no industrial action going on or being discussed.

 

[kropotkin]

Ah anoher virtue signalling jerk with a merc, I reckon half the fuckers on here are similar prosecco socialists
My heart bleeds

I think you might need to look up virtue signalling

 

[The39thStep]

In fairness to Russ, he does seem quite capable of being an arsehole even when there's no industrial action going on or being discussed.

Did he ever reveal the walt on the Ukraine thread?

 

[_Russ_]

Did he ever reveal the walt on the Ukraine thread?

Thought it was obvious but I'll leave it as some extra food for the forum's clever blokes to throw up now and again

 

[Dystopiary]

"blokes"

 

[nogojones]

Ah anoher virtue signalling jerk with a merc, I reckon half the fuckers on here are similar prosecco socialists
My heart bleeds

So had a look and prosecco comes in about £7 for 750ml. £3 cheaper than Buckfast!

What booze is OK to drink for lefties Russ?

 

[two sheds]

Haven't had it for a while but champenoise is only £8 or so and I can't tell the difference from champagne anyway.

 

[PTK]

I hereby introduce a new term to the lexicon of political discourse: punk proletarianism. A form of debased discourse that mimics a pro-working class position

 

[two sheds]

lumpen

 

[Larry O'Hara]

Lovely

You deny you've mentioned the BMA because strikes by doctors have been prominent in the news for the last year?

I think you might need to look up virtue signallin

 

[hitmouse]

So had a look and prosecco comes in about £7 for 750ml. £3 cheaper than Buckfast!

What booze is OK to drink for lefties Russ?

Much less caffeine than Buckfast as well though. And it's got them horrible bubbles in, so you're better off paying the extra £3 to upgrade in my book.

 

[The39thStep]

Thought it was obvious but I'll leave it as some extra food for the forum's clever blokes to throw up now and again

Come on give us a hint.

 

[The39thStep]

So had a look and prosecco comes in about £7 for 750ml. £3 cheaper than Buckfast!

What booze is OK to drink for lefties Russ?

Brewdog, Spymaster recommends it

 

[GroovySunday]

Ah anoher virtue signalling jerk with a merc, I reckon half the fuckers on here are similar prosecco socialists
My heart bleeds

Tbf you've kinda got a point there. The left has for a long time been controlled by wealthy middle class and rich people. And it's a similar thing with those in charge of the formal 'anarchist' scene, which is a type of left politics really (left 'anarchism') despite what some of them would claim. The scene is controlled by comfortable people with well paid careers, houses, vehicles, regular jaunts abroad, generous pensions etc. They're definitely not of the dispossessed and downtrodden. More like of the privileged middle classes.

 

[RD2003]

Tbf you've kinda got a point there. The left has for a long time been controlled by wealthy middle class and rich people. And it's a similar thing with those in charge of the formal 'anarchist' scene, which is a type of left politics really (left 'anarchism') despite what some of them would claim. The scene is controlled by comfortable people with well paid careers, houses, vehicles, regular jaunts abroad, generous pensions etc. They're definitely not of the dispossessed and downtrodden.

I did sometimes suspect that certain individuals had money to fall back on, but what you're saying certainly wasn't the case generally in my day. Many of the university educated types had trashed their chances of a lucrative career, not that this was a guarantee of their education anyway, and lived in some right shitholes, often shared rented houses. The full-timers, meanwhile, were run ragged, and all for a pittance to top up their dole.

 

[The39thStep]

Tbf you've kinda got a point there. The left has for a long time been controlled by wealthy middle class and rich people. And it's a similar thing with those in charge of the formal 'anarchist' scene, which is a type of left politics really (left 'anarchism') despite what some of them would claim. The scene is controlled by comfortable people with well paid careers, houses, vehicles, regular jaunts abroad, generous pensions etc. They're definitely not of the dispossessed and downtrodden.

Regular jaunts abroad ? How dare they. I voted to Leave to put an end to this sort of anarchist leadership .

 

[RD2003]

Regular jaunts abroad ? How dare they. I voted to Leave to put an end to this sort of anarchist leadership .

He's right though. The working class will never tolerate leaders who don't spend their holidays on Blackpool beach with their trouser legs rolled up and a handkerchief tied to their heads.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Jaunts eh? What a bunch of bastards, why can't they go on holiday like everyone else.

 

[Spymaster]

Brewdog, Spymaster recommends it

All of the lefties on here already drink there anyway.

 

[nogojones]

Much less caffeine than Buckfast as well though. And it's got them horrible bubbles in, so you're better off paying the extra £3 to upgrade in my book.

I'm just imagining carbonated Buckfast now!

Why doesn't capitalism deliver?

 

[kropotkin]

Not following you, sorry.

Larry O'Hara

 

[hitmouse]

Blimey, I stop paying attention for an hour or so and when I come back Russ is being groomed for recruitment for the insurrecto-nihilist affinity group.