existentialist
Tired and unemotional
And the world isn't going to change any time soon.
I think that might be the final straw for me at the RailUK forums
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existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Your forgiveness, while entirely unnecessary, is nonetheless appreciated as yet another example of your easy-going and tolerant nature.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Actually, many people would not have the knowledge that Bungle73 has about his rights, and possibly would have been charged some kind of penalty fare as a result. So, Bungle73 did the right thing to argue, and then complain, because he protects everyone's interests in this way. He was standing up to institutional bullying, for which I see many people here are placing themselves as apologists, as well as engaging in a bit of Victim Blaming against Bungle73. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Er not she didn't. Did you actually read the account I posted? She never admitted that she was in the wrong at all. She in fact seemed to think that she was doing me some kind of favour by letting me proceed on my way.
What do you call accusing someone of committing a crime them? Is that is not alleging that they are criminal I don't know what is.
Good grace to leave it there? Let's get one thing straight here. I was stopped from going about my lawful business by someone who decided to initiate a confrontation based on a bogus claim about the legality of the journey I was making.. Something that she has no doubt done to other travellers (and if you had read the thread you would know that this has gone on before at other stations), and would continue to do so unless made the subject of a complaint.
Maybe you enjoy having your time wasted and being accused of something you clearly have not done, but I don't.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yes. But you're a cock.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Yes, but I doubt the accuracy of your account of what happened. You probably believe it to be accurate but you've shown time and again that the way you understand and deal with people is highly questionable.
In this case, a misunderstanding due to a lack of knowledge, probably.
QED
I think it's more likely that you came across as confrontational in your attitude, as you so often do, and she decided to give you a hard time for being an arse before letting you through. Good for her.
You also didn't tell us the full story about your banning from RailUK, did you?
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existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Do you think there might have been a more productive or useful way for Bungle73 to have gone about this?
So I'm a liar now am I? 
I came across as "confrontational"? It was SHE who started the confrontation.
This forum is funny. Ignore the clear T&Cs of a ticket and fall foul of it and you're a "victim" of the "unfair" railway, where as if you travel on a perfectly valid ticket, within the terms of its validity, and get harassed about it by staff who doesn't know the rules (even though it's their job to know) and somehow you're the one in the wrong.
I came across as "confrontational"? It was SHE who started the confrontation.
This forum is funny. Ignore the clear T&Cs of a ticket and fall foul of it and you're a "victim" of the "unfair" railway, where as if you travel on a perfectly valid ticket, within the terms of its validity, and get harassed about it by staff who doesn't know the rules (even though it's their job to know) and somehow you're the one in the wrong.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I imagine this is exactly the way your encounters with (eg) ticket collectors go. Any suggestion that your ticket isn't valid is conflated into "are you calling me a criminal?", in the same way that any suggestion (here) that you've overreacted is transformed into an accusation that you're a liar.So I'm a liar now am I?
I came across as "confrontational"? It was SHE who started the confrontation.
And even if SHE did "start the confrontation", does that mean you have to continue it?
Continue it? What the fucking hell are you talking about? All I wanted to do was continue on my journey without being harassed.
Stop it with your fucking victim blaming.
Every single post of yours is a reminder of why I have you on ignore.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
I see that's working well, then.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
No. Read what I wrote. You're proving my point for me.
Unlikely, imo.
Again, a typically Bungle misreading of what's going on.
I'm not saying you were in the wrong regarding the validity of the ticket. You obviously were correct about that. I'm suggesting that you probably dealt with the situation poorly which perhaps increased the acrimony of the exchange. Furthermore, that you misled us regarding your banning from RailUK by omitting to mention that some of your aggressive hyperbole had been edited out by the mods.
I described exactly what happened. It happened exactly the way I described. Stop wasting my fucking time. Did I have you on ignore once? I should have.
This is why it's pointless trying to have any kind of meaningful serious discussion on here about the railways. Certain people are always trying to twist things to suit their own agendas.
It comes to something when a passenger is harassed by staff for no good reason, yet it's their fault......
It comes to something when a passenger is harassed by staff for no good reason, yet it's their fault......
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Certainly not regarding your banning from the other forum. That much is patently obvious from your posts there and here.
The only thing "obvious" here is that you're a cock. A cock who is always seeking to find me in the wrong.....even when so clearly and obviously I am not.
Silas Loom
Hated by both sides
I wonder whether Bungle will follow that Sam the Football chap into the absurdity of being banned for complaining too angrily about being banned elsewhere.
mauvais
on reddit or something
I feel like this would all be much easier if you'd just buy a car. Then you could go on Pistonheads, argue with increasing anger about the intricacies of the Road Traffic Act until you ended up being arrested for hammering frozen sausages into another man's lawn, and noone would think any worse of you.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I'm most certainly a cock but by your own words here, you didn't provide the entire context of your banning, i.e. the posts that you showed us were not the original ones that got you banned. Some of what you posted was clearly offensive enough for a moderator to edit out before banning you and we haven't seen them. Yet you come here bleating that you've been unfairly treated and neglect to mention that.
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existentialist
Tired and unemotional
mauvais
on reddit or something
What? I told you exactly what I wrote, and exactly what was edited.
I didn't provide a context? There is no context. I already said that.
Do you enjoy wasting people's time? Do you enjoy creating agro with people?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Not until I brought it up, and then it was a vague "something along the lines of ..." and a denial that the other post (which clearly has 'edited by a moderator' at the bottom of it) was edited at all.
You were quite happy for us to take the posts at face value despite knowing that what you were banned for had probably been removed. Bit dishonest that.
T & P
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Bungle: Excuse ma'am, do you have the time?
Old lady checks her old watch: Yes dear, it's quarter to two.
Bungle, looking at his smartphone: You're wrong! It is in fact ten to two. YOU FUCKING LYING SCUMBAG!!
It HAS NOT been edited. Stop making up your own fake facts. And how am I supposed to remember something I wrote days ago. I told you the gist of what it said, yet as usual you're trying to make something out of nothing when it involves me.
It's you who needs removing tbh.
I was the one who was harassed! I was the one who was accused of doing something illegal when I had not. I was the one who was stopped from going about my business. I was the one who had my day out ruined. So how fucking dare you try and make it my fault. Fuck off.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
I don't believe bungle73 (unlike the TfL staff and their managers) is paid a salary to protect the rights of people like you and I*, so I amn't going to start getting picky about the exact details of how he goes about his business. But what do you, from your position as armchair critic, think he should have done differently?
*In fact I also protect the rights of the travelling public using similar means**, and you will be pleased to know that I have a virtually 100% success rate, through various letter-writing campaigns, in proving that I, rather than various members of railway staff, was correct on an assortment of ticketing issues. You can thank both of us for our good work at some point later in the thread when everyone realises that Bungle73 is in the right here.
**Fewer swearwords though - I use fewer swearwords than Bungle73.
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