Mrs Miggins
Eternal
And it's included a 2 min walk at the end but no walks anywhere else on the journey. It doesn't make sense to me and I'm sure it didn't do this in the past.
Can anyone please direct me to a site that lists London bus routes in full?
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Miss-Shelf
I'll meet you further on up the road
Why didn't I know about this before?
Puddy_Tat
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initial thought is that the 33 minutes is time on trains / buses, the other 12 is waiting time, and / or time it's allowing you for the change at brixton and highbury + islington stations.
the 2 minutes walk from Hackney Central Station to Hackney Central Station is a bit odd - I think it's trying to say that's walk time from platform to street entrance (they will be in the data as separate places), but it is a bit weird.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
Why didn't I know about this before?
they also do historical maps, so if you want (for example) a map of london bus, tram and trolleybus routes as at august 1939, they can do that as well.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
If people are happy to help.
Waterloo to the Tate
Waterloo to the Royal Hospital Chelsea
Waterloo to the National Army Museum
Waterloo to the British Museum
Waterloo to the Tate
Waterloo to the Royal Hospital Chelsea
Waterloo to the National Army Museum
Waterloo to the British Museum
Mrs Miggins
Eternal
Which Tate?
Mrs Miggins
Eternal
kalmatthew
Lurker Extrodinaire
My mum had her Hertfordshire issued concessionary bus pass with her and tried to use it on a London bus, when she tapped it and it said denied the driver made her pay
. She assumed London must be special and did so.
Mrs Miggins
Eternal
National Army Museum is just up the road from the Royal Hospital Chelsea so same busses
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
Assuming you mean Tate Britain on Millbank -
507 (from 'cab road' bus stop A at Waterloo) to Horseferry Road / Millbank, then bus 87, or bus 211 (from Cab Road stop B) to Parliament Square then bus 87
If you mean the tat modern, bus 381 from York Road stop V or Stamford Street stop M to Lavington Street
211 from Cab Road stop B to Chelsea Bridge Road, corner of Royal Hospital Road - or if you want to get slightly closer, change from 211 to 170 at Pimlico Road, Ebury Bridge Road (may be easier than changing at Victoria, as they use the same stop) to get to either - National Army Museum is one stop further along
188 from Tenison Way stop K sets down on the south side of Russell Square (and starts again on the north side) - the routes that go up to Euston go straight up and down the east side of Russell Square.
This (opens as PDF) shows where all the bus stops are round waterloo
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
My mum had her Hertfordshire issued concessionary bus pass with her and tried to use it on a London bus, when she tapped it and it said denied the driver made her pay
That wants a complaint to TFL - drivers damn well ought to be told that non London passes don't register on the machines and just get shown (and think there's a button on the machine the driver should press)
Unless of course it was before whatever time on a weekday morning that passes are valid from.
Although time / date would be needed - if it's ages ago, then probably not worth it.
Mrs Miggins
Eternal
kalmatthew
Lurker Extrodinaire
Also a fairly nice walk along the south bank with a chance to catch your breath with a pint at the founders Arms if walking not in a stuffy tube station works OK.
This is well worth taking the different exits at Waterloo are a nightmare and moving between them outside isn't always easy.
kalmatthew
Lurker Extrodinaire
Few weeks ago and after she finished work. I'll suggest it, she might go for it. She wasn't that bothered but is often happy to champion the cause for people would struggle more to complain and or suffer more in similar circumstances.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
yes, that gets very slightly closer to the BM, but a bit of a long way round. depends on comfortable walk distance.
188 set down (russell square) and 14 set down stop (great russell street) circled.
going back, 14 is from the stop just east of the montague street junction, 188 from the north side of russell square (so a bit further)
188 set down (russell square) and 14 set down stop (great russell street) circled.
going back, 14 is from the stop just east of the montague street junction, 188 from the north side of russell square (so a bit further)
klang
klang
the chinese whispers of bus routes. will be a right laugh for sas
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
they will want bus route and time and location/s - did it end up as an oyster or contactless transaction? not sure how easy it is for them to trace the latter, especially if it's a high frequency route.
klang
klang
i just bought one. dunno why, I just had to.
Puddy_Tat
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Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
just a minute -
when is this?
there are a number of bus route cuts / changes planned at some point next year (date/s not yet confirmed) so we may need to re-run this thread nearer the time...
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Ah. OK. Next April pencilled in.
Mrs Miggins
Eternal
Oh christ the whole city could have burnt down by then!
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
What can possibly go wrong?the chinese whispers of bus routes. will be a right laugh for sas
Regarding the British Museum, I recommend the back entrance on Montague Place. Much easier than the main entrance. It's a short walk from the bus stop on Southampton Row. There are a few buses from Waterloo to there, such as the 68 and 168. Hop on any bus heading for Euston.
wtfftw
melting like a toastie
and 59 188 iirc
There is queue jumping potential at the main entrance to the museum but might be depend on security on the day.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Thank you all, it is appreciated.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
What a superb answer. Thank you.
not any more. it's a bit crap, as it's a journey you can't do by direct tube either.
the trouble is that for a lot of journeys in london, there are too many options, if you ask for a journey at (say) 1100, and the most logical journey involved a bus that went at 1059, it will come up with all sorts of options that will get you there anything up to a minute quicker than waiting for the next bus on your route.
it's usually worth checking a few earlier / later journeys if you get offered something weird, and you can get better results if you select 'least walking' or 'fewest changes'
was it a strike day? or one with major engineering work somewhere? with strike days, there's often an emergency timetable the day before and / or after (so that the trains all get home before the strike starts) and it's just possible there was a balls up getting the data for one of those days in to the system in time. and the richmond end of the distraught line is on network rail tracks, so will be affected by a NR signallers' strike even if underground staff aren't on strike.
with the aforementioned TFL journey planner, you can select what modes of transport you do / don't want so you can select bus only (or bus + DLR + tram if you're going somewhere that would work.)
Google and Citymapper (as have both been mentioned) get their data from TFL's data, so may be a little bit behind if there are changes. They do use different software for the journey planning bit, so may come up with different results.
There is a TFL Go App which I've never really had anything to do with.
TFL's public bus information is a bit crap - they stopped doing printed maps some time ago, and as toblerone3 says, the only map published is independent of TFL, mainly for the enthusiast market. Be aware that it's produced a couple of times a year, not for every single change, so may not be quite up to date.
Again independent of TFL (but pretty accurate) is London Bus Routes which lists all London bus routes in numeric order, and has the current timetable, as well as info (which can be more up to date than TFL's) on diversions etc.)
During times of day / on routes where buses are every 12 minutes or more frequent, the controllers will run the service to maintain 'an even headway' rather than run buses at exactly the times shown.
A few things which may or may not be stating the obvious -
London buses are now cash-free and have been for a few years. They take contactless cards as well as Oyster Card, and (so long as you make sure you use the same contactless card all day) there is a daily fare cap for bus + tram. There are no travelcard zones on buses, I really can't remember what the deal is on Croydon tram. A 'day' is 0430 to 0429 not midnight to midnight, and not a 24 hour period of your choosing.
On most of the new bus for london / new routemaster / boris bus, you were at one time allowed to get on at any door - this has largely been done away with, they now expect you to get on at the front, as too many people were avoiding payment.
If you have a concessionary travel pass issued by a Scottish (or Welsh or N Irish) local authority, it's not valid in England (with possible exceptions on a few routes that cross the border) and vice versa - this is one thing where a 'national' scheme means the 4 countries not the UK.
TFL tickets / fares are not valid on the sightseeing tour buses, or the (old) routemaster route that's recently been introduced between waterloo and piccadilly, that's also independent of TFL.
There are also ongoing strikes with Abelio buses in London, as well as rail strike days when the shit will hit the fan generally. More here.
All the above subject to the disclaimer that I'm no longer involved in running buses in London.
Have fun.
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
The Tate, the one with the Turners.
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
can you bump the thread some time like march? some of the bus routes mentioned are likely to change at some point in 2023, but it's not yet clear when.
the tate modern has its merits - it's a great building, and some of the stuff in there is hilarious, although you do get funny looks if you laugh too loud...
(disclaimer - i accept that art is subjective, each to their own and all that sort of thing)
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