Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
google 'automated detection of deviant behaviours cologne filetype
df' e2a should be filetype : pdf
Hundreds of women assaulted in German NYE celebrations
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df' e2a should be filetype : pdf
bimble
floofy
Google just tells me to watch that polish tv show, with the sociologist on.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
so does tim nice-but-dim, only he's cleverer than you and doesn't post the sort of vapid wank you share with us
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
That said, though, the trams around here, all have signs saying that you are being monitored by video. . . so it's not that a big a stretch to expect railway stations to have CCTV in at least some spots.
bimble
floofy
Yep, last mentions of CCTV at Cologne station that I can find are the police reportedly saying (on Thursday) that it was dark and it's unlikely that the footage will be any help in identifying individual suspects.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
that'll be because you aren't composing a useful search eg koln OR cologne hauptbahnhof OR station cctv "control room" filetype : pdf
Large scale immigration is very difficult. Especially for people who are see themselves always as both superior, yet victims, and can't cope with complexity or complex arguments. Like the people who committed sexual assault at Cologne were - it appears - immigrants, but not all immigrants commit sexual assault. In fact not even all the people outside Cologne station did. Nor were they all from the same country. One arrested was from the US. (But those who did sexually assault women were all men). Or that countries with very low levels of immigration are also basket cases with widespread social and economic problems. Complexity is hard, simplicity and eternal victimhood is easy. Portraying yourself and your group as a victim and simultaneously using the sexual assault of women by immigrants not to attack the sexual assault of women - God forbid - but to further a political agenda about immigration. That is wrong'un territory pure and simple. Why use rape and assault like that?
The fact that you are not white of course has nothing at all to do with your views. You're entirely objective. If you don't think mass immigration is destroying Europe, then you are blinded by something. In this case, you have a vested interest in maintaining the argument for this, in defiance of all observable evidence. Mass immigration and multi-culturalism are tearing this country apart. I refuse to accept that ordinary working class people should be grist to the mill.
Tell me something, why is it that Europe, and only Europe, should play host to these "refugees"?
Tell me this is parody. You're just joking, right? Women should be raped so that you can have a better choice of pizza....?? You are truly fucking deluded. As for the other 'benefits', even if they are true, mass immigration is not the same thing as cultural cross-pollination, and one does not depend on the other. This is just basic ABC stuff.
I can hardly think of a better demonstration of how flippant and lightweight you are. You actually think I am going to be impressed by these lame responses?
My question, posed earlier, remains unanswered, so I may as well direct it at you:
Are the mass rapes worth it?
Plus, maybe you could also give me your view on why these rapes are happening? And if your answer is that it's cultural, then maybe tell me why you think importing a rape culture is a good thing?
Take your time.
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Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Answer in 14 words or less ... Well. Maybe just in 14 words eh?
Hey, groovy man! It's not simple, yer know! Why use rape and assault like that, dude? It's problematical, yer know...???? Right-on! Yeah!
Can you point me to an area of this forum where users do not pursue a political agenda? The Hobbies section, maybe? Should we move this thread there, next to Hornby train sets? We can then de-politicise it. Would that satisfy you, fuck wit?
Just answers will do. Real answers, not logic-chopping, nitpicking and legalistic evasions.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
Oh fuck off.
likesfish
You can't park here sir
C4 had feminists trying to claim its not a race issue
FFS yes there are lots of issues around violence against women.
But this issue is a mob attack by middle eastern migrants a rather unique and horribly new addition to threats against women having been a drunken violent young idiot in somebody else's country trying to mass grope rape random.women never crossed my so called mind or any of my mates and we were "scum of the earth enlisted for drink"
FFS yes there are lots of issues around violence against women.
But this issue is a mob attack by middle eastern migrants a rather unique and horribly new addition to threats against women having been a drunken violent young idiot in somebody else's country trying to mass grope rape random.women never crossed my so called mind or any of my mates and we were "scum of the earth enlisted for drink"
camouflage
gaslit at scale.
C4 had feminists trying to claim its not a race issue
well... it's my understanding that Arabs consider themselves as white, so... in a way.....
bimble
floofy
Me or him? Probably both of us. Oh noes he's gone already .You should give this post to your psychologist.
Is this rocksteady-eddie again?
C4 had feminists trying to claim its not a race issue
FFS yes there are lots of issues around violence against women.
But this issue is a mob attack by middle eastern migrants a rather unique and horribly new addition to threats against women having been a drunken violent young idiot in somebody else's country trying to mass grope rape random.women never crossed my so called mind or any of my mates and we were "scum of the earth enlisted for drink"
It's time for a thought experiment.
You, likesfish, are about to go into a room.
It contains people of every colour from Congolese blue to Finnish transparent.
Some of them - some of each colour - are going to assault you.
Does it really matter to you what colour is the one that gets to you first?
It's an awful situation and it was attacks by migrants, apparently from what I've read. But it is still a law and order issue. Crimes go on all the time, perpetuated by people of all ilks. Going on right now. Rape and sexual assault go on all the time. That is no excuse for the scumbags at Cologne though. It is grim and a lot of men should go to jail for a long period. It is a strange one due to the public nature of it, but primarily it is law and order, same as any other crime at home or in public.C4 had feminists trying to claim its not a race issue
FFS yes there are lots of issues around violence against women.
But this issue is a mob attack by middle eastern migrants a rather unique and horribly new addition to threats against women having been a drunken violent young idiot in somebody else's country trying to mass grope rape random.women never crossed my so called mind or any of my mates and we were "scum of the earth enlisted for drink"
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
It's not about what your (or Casually Red) imagine to be "obvious", or about what you doubt.
It's about what becomes established as fact.
Speculation is fine, but don't lose sight of the fact that what you're saying above about "obviously experienced sexual predators" is pure speculation.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
No, I mean dictionaries - those books that list definitions for words, and that can't be edited like an entry on wikipedia (which is very much not a dictionary, which was the thrust of my post).
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
I was chatting to my friend of Afro Caribbean descent who father came to Brixton from Grenada. He has worked in Royal Mail for years and is life long Labour voter.
He got moved to work on the lorries doing deliveries. He told me a lot of the white Londoners he works with complain about immigration. They support UKIP. They object to the East Europeans.
As a working class man whose father was an immigrant he objects to this anti immigration talk from some of his fellow workers. He knows his fathers generation were subject to the same kind of resentment when they first came here. Its changed now to be directed at East Europeans. He has no time for this kind of attitude.
My friends view is not to blame immigrants but the Tories and employers. He has no time for New Labour and supports Corbyn.
He is an ordinary working class Labour voter not a political "activist".
To "cope with this" is not to see the working class as unitary. (best word I can think of). Its also divided by other factors like race.
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There has been a load of immigration into the UK in the last 10-15 years. No two ways about it. The EU expanded east for a start. But the main single reason people moved to regions with work and the main reason people's wages fell was the financial crisis. And it still is. It hasn't gone away. Ukip are silent on the financial crisis they have nothing to say on it. Immigration can force down wages, mainly for unskilled workers, but it is generally industry-specific, and geographically and time-limited. Immigration's effect on wages is slight compared to recessions and longer term state policy. Wages fell due to the financial crisis, at a time when inflation ran ahead of wages, that had nothing to do with immigration. `Wage restraint` was a policy of successive governments for 35 years.
There are many other examples, around 400-500,000 immigrants have left Spain since 2008/09 but wages there have fallen. Ditto Portugal. Immigration to the UK is still strong, but employment levels are at a record. Germany imports 10s and 100s of thousands of immigrants annually - well before Syrian refugees etc - but its employment levels are at/close to records. It's easy to talk about immigration if one isn't hysterical and doesn't run away from the issue.
Your friend of Afro-Caribbean descend sounds like an honourable guy. And it is an emotional thing that you say but do ask your friend what he thinks about the difficulty of finding property to rent, having friends being forced to move away due to increased housing demand. How does he feel about increased competition for jobs. And a weakening of workers bargaining power?
Last year, several Libyan military were cruising the streets near my house - when news of multiple rapes started to filter through the news, my first thought was (forgive me here, ex-soldiers) ' bloody squaddies'. Most inhabitants of barracks towns will generally be familiar with the Saturday night scenario at certain clubs and pubs)..At no point did I think 'Libyans!'. Or 'Arabs'.
I am not seeing the four horsemen approaching on the horizon either...I don't see Sharia Law being imposed anytime soon so feel that, at present, neither the religious, social or cultural practices of refugees intersects with my life in any way other than the usual shrinking state funding and miserable housing situation.And although I was unpleasantly reminded of the period of the Cambridge Ripper, I am not really going in fear of molestation. I don't have any faith in police, politicians, councillors offering much protection...and consequently, we will do what we usually do - organise some meetings, offer personal pepper sprays and informal support/report groups. look out for each other...you know, the usual stuff. Should attacks continue, they will not be swept away - whilst we may have all sorts of tolerance for various cultural practices, we do have a legal framework and in truth, it is about time feminists got their act together and reconnected with an increasingly alienated working class -particularly women who are living under oppressive religious regimes. Eyes on the ball, sisters...we have got a looooong way to go.
I am not seeing the four horsemen approaching on the horizon either...I don't see Sharia Law being imposed anytime soon so feel that, at present, neither the religious, social or cultural practices of refugees intersects with my life in any way other than the usual shrinking state funding and miserable housing situation.And although I was unpleasantly reminded of the period of the Cambridge Ripper, I am not really going in fear of molestation. I don't have any faith in police, politicians, councillors offering much protection...and consequently, we will do what we usually do - organise some meetings, offer personal pepper sprays and informal support/report groups. look out for each other...you know, the usual stuff. Should attacks continue, they will not be swept away - whilst we may have all sorts of tolerance for various cultural practices, we do have a legal framework and in truth, it is about time feminists got their act together and reconnected with an increasingly alienated working class -particularly women who are living under oppressive religious regimes. Eyes on the ball, sisters...we have got a looooong way to go.
Gramsci
Well-Known Member
He has already told me about that. He blames the Tories, bosses and the City (bankers) . And long term Thatcherism ( in particular for weakening the Unions).
He wants wants more Council housing built and an end to landlords charging what they want- bring back rent controls.
His son has problems finding somewhere to afford in London. So he knows all about this.
Do not know why you say he is "honourable guy" or "emotional". He is just ordinary working class Londoner who sees whats happening in London and comes to his own conclusions.
And on the job front. His fathers generation got the same flack when they came here.
As far as he is concerned anyone who votes UKIP is a bigot. His word. He does not buy the "Im not a racist but" line he gets from some of his work mates.
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