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Hong Kong: what next?

The cluster grows ...


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And the people fight back ...





Save the hamsters!

The battle continues.

The war is not won.


Tune in again tomorrow for the next exciting episode of ...


Hamsterisomus Bummus Kissamus! (With a hat tip to Derek and Clive.)


Enough of this insanity!

The Arab's back the morn's nicht.

Bed. Night peeps. Rest well.

Be nice to each other.


Woof
 
Wow!

Breaking news at 12:02am on Friday 21st Jan 2022.

Reminiscent of SARS back in 2003, we now have an outbreak of 16 separate cases, in flats on 11 different floors in a single high rise block of a multi-block housing estate.

It's airborne and spreading vertically through the interconnected sewage pipes.

In 2003, 42 people died in the Amoy Gardens block of flats during the SARS outbreak - spread through the sewage pipes.

This is, obviously, far less serious. But forgive us for being cautious. We remember.

The "carrier case", in this instance, also frequented many other common areas in this and other blocks on the estate (refuse disposal rooms/areas [dumpster diving], corridors and other enclosed facilities.


There's a MASSIVE lockdown, hospitalisation, quarantining, testing and isolation regime underway. Extremely stringent! It will remain ongoing for days if not weeks.


Details in the thread. A sobering read. Many thanks to Brandon.





Oh boy!


That said, Zero Covid in 2022 was a good idea. But what now Hong Kong?

Full-on closure of everything to please Beijing I guess?

Must ... keep ... the Olympics ... on track.

What a fucking, fucking mess.

Fuck it!

Night.

Bed.

Woof
 
If anybody is interested in how contact tracing is actually supposed to work, please take a look at @tripperhead.

Aaron is a fucking superstar of data. A hero in Hong Kong. Keeping everyone informed.

Anyway ... Just read the first fifty tweets (from the last 24 hours*,) to understand how TTI (test, trace, isolate) is supposed to work - both forwards and backwards.


(*EDIT: Wow! Fuck the last 24 hours! Just read the fifty tweets from the last HOUR (before 3:30am HK time on 21/01/2021 (I know, I know, bed for me now, NOW)! It will astonish you! Contact tracing. As it should be done. Even if it's too late now and further, harsh, restrictions will ensue. It's still impressive. Read it! ... Night!)




A data collator supremo. A hero.


Contact tracing is essentially - and has to be - an intensely detailed, hands on, painstaking, local-community-driven, society-wide, human resource heavy, expensive, local boots-on-the-ground, local languages (Cantonese, English, Mandarin, Tagalog, Bahasa Indonesia, Urdu, Hindu, Thai, etc. etc.), boot leather, door-knocking exercise. A public sector, public health initiative comprising local civil servants - from every sector - and incorporating community organisations to ensure local sensibilities are addressed and catered for.

Sure, there's a govt. APP, but that's an add on and, frankly, irrelevant to the test and trace initiative. Next to worthless.

In Hong Kong, it's being handled entirely within the Public Health Service. No sub-contracting.

Despite the meticulous attention to detail, however, (which has left us largely immune to any broad-sweeping, local restrictions for the better part of a year,) I fear that the emergence of Omicron in the community will overwhelm the capacity of our abilities to continue an effective TTI initiative.

And that will, inevitably, lead to further restrictions, ordered by Beijing. The Olympics is sacrosanct - and anyway Hong Kong needs punishing now it's been brought to book. The "International City" needs to be extinguished.

Oh well.

We tried.


What did the UK's test and trace system achieve?

I understand it was given to a call centre, run by Serco and supported by Deloitte (at huge expense), employing school leavers in call centers on minimum wage.

And cost close to GBP 40 billion of public money to outsource and siphon-off into the pockets of already wealthy corporates.


(That's about four fifths (80%) of a half trillion HKD. HKD 400 billion. Fuck me! In 2020/2021, the total govt. expenditure in HK was HKD 750 billion - and produced a HKD 10 billion surplus! I know it's not comparable but ... still. And I also know that sustaining govt. expenditure at under 20% of GDP for decades will inevitably lead to a Gini Coefficient of .54 and rising and leave 25% of the population below the poverty line and 20% living in circumstances that would, rightly, be described as squalor in the west - and that's for another time - but ... still.)


And to what effect?

What result did UK T&T achieve?

170,000 dead?

Oh boy!

What a fucking world!


I'm getting too old for this shit.

And the Nihilists are on their way again.

Night.

Woof
 
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"Oh for fuck sake! Don't be a stupid cunt! Just fucking tell them it didn't fucking happen! We don't fucking recognise this account of events! We are not fucking aware of! Etc. Fucking, Etc! For fuck sake! You daft bastard! Whi' the fuck d'yi think we're gonnie say?!"

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;)


Night peeps.

Woof
 
And then there's Jas.

My favourite, local, anarchist, virologist, researcher.

Fortunately, she's straight onto the case ...





Really does read like a Monty Python sketch, right?

:D


(Ben Cowling, Prof. of Microbiology at HKU is very good too.)


Woof
 
If anybody is interested in how contact tracing is actually supposed to work, please take a look at @tripperhead.

Aaron is a fucking superstar of data. A hero in Hong Kong. Keeping everyone informed.

Anyway ... Just read the first fifty tweets (from the last 24 hours*,) to understand how TTI (test, trace, isolate) is supposed to work - both forwards and backwards.


(*EDIT: Wow! Fuck the last 24 hours! Just read the fifty tweets from the last HOUR (before 3:30am HK time on 21/01/2021 (I know, I know, bed for me now, NOW)! It will astonish you! Contact tracing. As it should be done. Even if it's too late now and further, harsh, restrictions will ensue. It's still impressive. Read it! ... Night!)




A data collator supremo. A hero.


Contact tracing is essentially - and has to be - an intensely detailed, hands on, painstaking, local-community-driven, society-wide, human resource heavy, expensive, local boots-on-the-ground, local languages (Cantonese, English, Mandarin, Tagalog, Bahasa Indonesia, Urdu, Hindu, Thai, etc. etc.), boot leather, door-knocking exercise. A public sector, public health initiative comprising local civil servants - from every sector - and incorporating community organisations to ensure local sensibilities are addressed and catered for.

Sure, there's a govt. APP, but that's an add on and, frankly, irrelevant to the test and trace initiative. Next to worthless.

In Hong Kong, it's being handled entirely within the Public Health Service. No sub-contracting.

Despite the meticulous attention to detail, however, (which has left us largely immune to any broad-sweeping, local restrictions for the better part of a year,) I fear that the emergence of Omicron in the community will overwhelm the capacity of our abilities to continue an effective TTI initiative.

And that will, inevitably, lead to further restrictions, ordered by Beijing. The Olympics is sacrosanct - and anyway Hong Kong needs punishing now it's been brought to book. The "International City" needs to be extinguished.

Oh well.

We tried.


What did the UK's test and trace system achieve?

I understand it was given to a call centre, run by Serco and supported by Deloitte (at huge expense), employing school leavers in call centers on minimum wage.

And cost close to GBP 40 billion of public money to outsource and siphon-off into the pockets of already wealthy corporates.


(That's about four fifths (80%) of a half trillion HKD. HKD 400 billion. Fuck me! In 2020/2021, the total govt. expenditure in HK was HKD 750 billion - and produced a HKD 10 billion surplus! I know it's not comparable but ... still. And I also know that sustaining govt. expenditure at under 20% of GDP for decades will inevitably lead to a Gini Coefficient of .54 and rising and leave 25% of the population below the poverty line and 20% living in circumstances that would, rightly, be described as squalor in the west - and that's for another time - but ... still.)


And to what effect?

What result did UK T&T achieve?

170,000 dead?

Oh boy!

What a fucking world!


I'm getting too old for this shit.

And the Nihilists are on their way again.

Night.

Woof


I was going to edit the above but it took me over the 11,000 count so I'll just leave it here.





(Edit2: I Just wanted to add some broader context to our Test, Trace, Isolate initiatives and our broader anti-virus regime. Firstly, everyone wears a mask, everywhere, when they leave their home until they return home and are indoors. Everywhere; outdoors and indoors, all public transport (only about 6% of people have cars), in kindergarten, primary, secondary, uni, places of education. At work. Shops, businesses, offices, warehouses, factories, etc. etc. EVERYWHERE. All. The. Time. Unless at home or unless sitting down eating. It's been this way since 1st Jan 2020. It started the day we heard news of a new SARS-type virus up north, DESPITE everyone (WHO, our Govt. etc.) advising people not to do so - as a society, we didn't buy that bullshit, we chose to mask up (much to the Govts. annoyance!). And EVERYONE ... from 2 year olds in push chairs up to 95 year old grannies off for Dim Sum. EVERYONE. And, you know what? Nobody has a problem with it. Not toddlers, not pensioners. Sure, it ain't great, but we've been here before (in 2003,) and, although it's lasting longer this time, you get used to it after a few weeks and it's just how it is. For the good of everyone. In summer, when it's 36C and 98% humidity, it's pretty shitty for six months but, for the good of everyone, it's just what it is. If ever (highly unlikely!) someone was sat on a bus (or the tube,) without a mask, the first thing would be somebody gently tapping them on the shoulder, asking them if they're okay and offering them a mask, which would be donned - and that would be the end of it. Were this offer rejected, the next thing that would happen would be someone having a word with the driver, the bus would stop and everybody else on the bus (or tube, at the next stop,) would swiftly eject said individual from the bus/carriage - and that would be the end of it.

This societal discipline certainly goes a long way towards helping but Omicron is so fucking infectious that even universal masking will likely be far less efficacious overall.

We've spent the last several months (from early summer 2021 through early January 2022,) with limited entry to HK (it's 21 days in a government camp residents and non-residents alike - or if your lucky, a designated quarantine hotel - and there you stay, in your room, at your own expense, school-type meals delivered, no exceptions, twenty one days,) and, as a result, were living a Covid-free lifestyle for months, everything open as normal, no virus in the community, all fully masked.

Then, the inevitable happened, on 06/01/22, two weeks ago, a flight crew member (allowed to isolate at home for three days after flying in, before heading straight to the airport and leaving again - an exemption to keep cargo flowing,) snuck out of home for a couple of hours to meet dad for lunch, at the Moon Palace Restaurant, on his 76th birthday; understandable perhaps but ... anyway ... they had Omicron and infected dad and two others at lunch (one was 13 metres away, the other in a separate private room!). This lead to the Moon Palace cluster, which spread to the residential-tower-block cluster (vertically, through the drainpipes,) which lead to the Schools cluster (three schools so far), which lead another tower-block cluster (all over the place through drainpipes and God knows what), which led to the dancing club cluster.

So far, we've traced about 60 infections in total (plus the, unrelated, Hamster cluster, about six people now - and numerous hamsters - it's Delta and unrelated to anything we've seen, and there's been no Delta in the community for many, many, months; strain most closely match to something from the Czech Republic but was it hamster-to-human or human-to-hamster or both or did it sneak in from the mainland and then on to the hamsters or ... something else. The investigation continues).

That's about 60 infections across five or six clusters as of 20th Jan 2022. I expect to see a further 15 - 20 cases today, 21/01/22, when the updates start. As a result of meticulous contact tracing, what has actually been done and what's been achieved?

Our approach has been stringent since the beginning of the pandemic. All tests are Govt. administered PCR tests, no LFTs in use. Anyone who tests positive - no matter if asymptomatic (as most are,) or otherwise - is immediately taken to hospital and installed in a negative pressure room for a minimum of fourteen days + two negative tests. Once virus free, they're taken to a different hospital and monitored and tested daily, for a further ten days and then, all going well, released into the wild again. All close contacts of anyone testing positive (meticulously traced by dedicated and experienced humans, forwards and backwards, family, friends, work colleagues, anyone on a bus route they used, a restaurant they were at, a gym they went to, a church, someone else's home, you name it ... they are ALL rounded up and taken off to a government quarantine camp, where they stay in their room for 21 days and are fed, tested daily and, if still virus free, released back into the wild after 21 days. This may also be applied to some close contacts of close contacts, depending upon the particular epidemiological scenario. Anyone else who may, even most remotely, have had any chance of any contact - even passing in the street if we can find them (and all close contacts of close contacts,) - are required to report for testing, usually on days 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 14 and 19 and then done (assuming not positive; if so, see above).

To be continued ...


(Edit: LFTs, not LTFs.)


Woof
 
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And here ...


... Continued ...




Well, in the last 14 days ...

... we've implemented over 500, detailed, Compulsory Testing Notices (CTNs). They could be ... Anyone using this bus route on this afternoon or Anyone at this restaurant on this morning or At this shopping mall on that day between these times, or on that tube route between these times or You name it, buildings, parks, shops, could be anything - yesterday, they even had one ... "Anyone on a pavement in the vicinity of the Pei Ho Street Municipal Services Building as bounded by Pei Ho Street, Tai Nan Street, Ki Lung Street and Kweilin Street- on 10/01/22 09:00-17:00 , 11/01/22 09:00-17:00 , 12/01/22 09:00-17:00 , 13/01/22 09:00-17:00 , 14/01/22 09:00-17:00 - Must report for testing within 24 hours." They'll even issue a fucking map showing the boundary of the area concerned in red, for this individual Notice - they do for most of them - I fucking kid you not!

We've undertaken over 50 Residential Testing Notices (RTNs). We call them "Lockdowns". They involve surrounding a residential tower block, usually housing somewhere between 600 and 2,000+ residents, with multitudinous hordes of full-hazmat-suited medics, testers, police, ambulance, etc. etc. at around 7:00pm and then "locking down" the building. Nobody goes in without being tested. Nobody comes out without being tested. Every residence is notified and the exercise usually continues until around 5:00am or 6:00am, whereupon a residual team will be left behind to knock on any doors that have not responded overnight and ensure everyone is tested and that nobody gets in - or out - for the next few days unless they can prove they've taken a test.

We have administered over 1.5 million PCR tests.

We have, so far, found @ 60 positive cases. They are in hospital in negative pressure rooms. They will be out after a minimum of 24 days, perhaps longer - even if asymptomatic.

We have identified more than 3,000 of their close contacts, who have all been taken to, specially constructed, government quarantine camps for a twenty-one-day stint. Stay in your room.

We've closed all kindergartens, primary and secondary schools, again, and remote teaching/learning activated. Universities are "advised" to conduct all activities remotely - hint, they are.

Pubs, clubs, gyms, events, karaoke rooms, etc.etc. etc. - all closed.

All civil servants working from home where possible.

Restaurants close at 6:00pm and daytime must enforce vaccination checks, Govt. app use, limited numbers, distanced tables, limits per table. Customer masks off only when eating (on when arriving, going for piss, standing, moving, leaving).

Etc. Etc. Etc. ...

... In the last 14 days.


Will it be enough to get on top of this community outbreak before silent chains and clusters really take off?

Personally, I doubt it. We'll find out more in about an hour (there's a daily press conference at 4:30pm with the boffins, Profs, Geeks, etc Every. Single. Day. For the last 500 and something days).

If it looks like its getting worse, I expect far greater restrictions to swiftly ensue*. If it takes off, we'll shut everything down. EVERYTHING!


We have no choice. Bejing is calling the rules and Beijing still wants zero COVID. Is it impossible with Omicron? Probably! Will Beijing learn anytime soon? Certainly not until after The Games in February!

Is it gonna be a clusterfuck? Oh yeah!

You heard it here first! ;)


Anyway, that's how Test, Trace, Isolate works in HK. Have a nice day! End Edit2.)

(*Edit: Ensue, not ensure.)


Woof
 
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Eighteen new, local, positive cases reported today. A mixture of the Delta (Hamster cluster,) and Omicron (unrelated group of clusters).

One, it seems, was infected while walking past a positive case, walking in the opposite direction, a few feet apart, in a pedestrian tunnel leading to an underground station exit. They were both wearing masks. Now THAT'S contagious!

They're all in hospital (negative pressure rooms).

Contact tracing is underway and isolation of contacts begun. Rooms being readied and filled at quarantine camps for close contacts.

There will be another 50+ CTNs and likely a few more RTNs (Overnight Residential block Lockdowns!).

And we'll see where we're at tomorrow.

For tomorrow's report, there are 20+ preliminary, local, positive cases already identified and a few more will likely be added overnight - contact tracing is already underway.


So many hundreds of people - and their families - are being hauled off to quarantine camp for 21 days, simply because they chose to do something as innocuous as sitting alone and eating lunch at the "wrong" restaurant on a particular day ('cos someone was there that day, who tested positive,) - it's really quite fucking mental.


I get the feeling that this isn't going to go too well - or end too well - whichever way it pans out.


What fun and games, eh?

:rolleyes:

Woof
 
Today, 20/01/2022, the European Parliament debates an urgent resolution on Hong Kong.

Finbarr Bermingham has been through the draft resolution and produced a nice synopsis of what's being debated.





Woof



Resolution passes the European Parliament: 585 in favour, 46 against, 41 abstensions.

I wonder if the European Council will be as robust.

Either way, Beijing is throwing the inevitable Panda Tantrum.


Woof
 
Breaking: @ 6:30pm 21/01/22.

Five day snap Lockdown of Yat Kwai House at Kwai Chung Estate has been imposed and is underway.

That's 2,700 people confined to their flats until Wednesday. They will be fed basics and watered.


"Around 2,700 residents will have to undergo daily testing and stay at home until Wednesday morning, and they'll be provided with food and daily necessities."




OOF!

That's gotta bite.

Anyway ...

... The mental, Stasi, watchmaker is here in ten minutes and a good few hours of mayhem, madness, magical music, exploration and ethanol are prescribed.


Have a fine Friday, peeps, and a good weekend.

Be nice to each other.

:)

Woof
 
Personally?


I blame the fucking hordes of Nihilistic, Nazi, Stasi, Jewish, Arabs that flock to my place every fucking Friday.

Too many immigrants in this fucking village!

What a fucking mess!





Heh!

What magic is this? Which sorcerers are these? Whose madness is this?


Heh!

What a fucking mess!

Be nice to each other peeps, I'm beyond reason at this time on a Saturday!

Learn how to love!


😛


Woof
 
Oh Lordy, I wish you were all here!

Oh Lordy! I hope there are tapes!


Do you think you can tell Heaven from Hell?



Think about it for a while.

I wish you were here.




;)


Woof
 
And just for good measure ...


Eight minutes of chaotic and melodic bass jazz from the early 1970's ...

... Why not?

Please listen. It's sublime.


Thank you for your contribution to this universe, Stanley. Mental!





Rest well peeps!


Woof
 
Remember 1964?

A 19 year old Bob Dylan, wheeled out in front of a bunch of a few hundred kids in a field?

Remember?


Heh!


The real deal. A poet and a lunatic. What's not to love?






Night!


Woof
 
I found this to be utterly fascinating. I think you can click on the charts, then zoom in for a proper perusal. Put together by Gigi Choy of the SCMP - but in her spare time - and updated over the last two weeks, it beautifully illustrates the genesis of a local epidemic outbreak - from the very first two or three cases. Credit where it's due - our contact tracing efforts have been astonishing.

Unfortunately, I fear the cat is out of the bag now and that exponential spread will rapidly overwhelm capacity in this discipline. Given the (unsustainable?) zero-Covid approach the authorities insist on persevering with, further more restrictive and extensive Lockdowns seem inevitable.

Anyway, sadly, these will be the last updates that Gigi is going to produce. The explosion in cases now identified make the task overwhelming. (Although there's a clamour for her to at least keep up with the Hamster Cluster.)


It all started in four places.

The airline cabin crew member who broke home-quarantine to have lunch with dad on his birthday (Omicron). Moon Palace cluster.

Another airline cabin crew member who passed it to her mum in home quarantine who then passed it on (Omicron). The Dance cluster.

The passenger returning to HK from Pakistan who caught the virus during her 21 day hotel quarantine (Omicron). The Silka Seaview cluster.

The hamster cluster (Delta).

Currently, we effectively have two distinct emerging epidemics; the Delta outbreak (one source identified so far, but there is potentially a second source being investigated,) and the much, much faster spreading Omicron outbreak (two initial sources).

As of 22/01/22, families totalling @ 6,000 people, in two tower blocks, are locked inside their (tiny) flats for at least an initial five days, only leaving to go downstairs for testing. Basic food and water being are delivered daily. A further 29,000 people in the same housing estate are locked indoors, for at least an initial 24 hours, until everyone is tested (we only use PCR tests).

Another @ 2,000 are serving 21 days compulsory quarantine across five government camps. And about 1,000 are in 21 day quarantine in a room at designated hotels (having arrived from overseas).

The first case was identified on @ 28/12/21 and everything else was traced from there - both backwards and forwards. Testing discovered further, unlinked, cases.


The Moon Palace Restaurant cluster traces back to the cabin crew member having lunch with dad there on his dad's birthday, 27/12/21 (unlawful). He caught it from a crew-mate he had over to his home on Xmas day (unlawful).


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The Dance Group cluster started when an air crew member passed it to her mum during home-quarantine, who then spread it around liberally.


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The worst outbreak currently underway, is the Silka Seaview cluster. This poor woman returned to Hong Kong from a trip to Pakistan. She is fully vaccinated, was PCR tested before leaving Pakistan, PCR tested on arrival, taken to her pre-booked room at the Silka Seaview Hotel (Designated Quarantine Hotel), PCR tested daily and released after 21 days in her room. A compulsory follow-up PCR test on day 26 tested positive and she was taken off to hospital for a minimum of 24 days - but by then she'd seeded it to her husband and four kids and they spread it onward. Many hundreds of people have ended up in govt. quarantine camps for 21 days as a result. Subsequent genetic sequencing investigations show she contracted the virus from someone quarantining in the room next door on the 20th day of her stay. This outbreak spread to the multi-tower-block housing estate with @ 35,000 residents that is currently under siege trying to contain the virus.


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The Hamster cluster is strange. It's Delta (the others are Omicron,) and may have come from hamsters imported from Holland and passed to one or more humans and then spread human-human but it could have come from mainland China and passed on human-human before being passed to a hamster then spread hamster hamster. It's looking more likely that it was initially hamster-human transmission but the emergence of a Delta case with an unrelated genetic lineage suggests a separate source and (I think,) a mainland-China link is likely. I suspect that the local authorities are loath to investigate any mainland-imported links - let alone to point an accusatory finger in that direction. It's all a bit sensitive at the moment.


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Just wanted to share something that I found utterly absorbing. Watching the very beginning of a local outbreak, as it happens, case by case, day by day, until it suddenly explodes across a massive housing estate with multiple 50-storey residential towers.

Fascinating and horrifying at the same time.

Anyway ... normal service will resume as soon as possible.


Stay safe peeps.

Woof
 
As of 4:30pm on Sunday 23/01/22.

The last 24 hours has given us:


• Total new cases: 140

• Total new local cases: 125 (It was just 18 cases 48 hours ago)

• Local unknown source: 4

• Local linked source: 121

• Total imported: 15 (These would have tested positive on arrival or during their 21day hotel-room quarantine and then been hospitalised)

• Preliminary positive cases: 100+ (Likely to be many, many more once confirmed with a second PCR test - we'll know by 4:30pm tomorrow)


That's another 240+ individuals taken to hospital for negative pressure isolation (minimum 24 days before release,) and many, many more hundreds of their family members and other close contacts taken off to government quarantine camps to be locked in a room for 21 days before release.

And that's on top of the 29,000 currently confined to their tiny flats for at least 24 hours while testing is completed and the 6,000 confined at home for a minimum of 5 days (and I'm talking flat sizes ranging between 140 sq ft [usually 2 residents], through 300 sq ft [usually 3 or 4], 400 sq ft [usually 4 or 5], up to 540 sq ft [usually 5 to 7 - one or two elderly+two adults+two or three kids].


But what happens tomorrow? How long can this be possibly be sustained - especially if cases escalate?

How long before asymptomatic cases are not hospitalised but dealt with in another way? How?

How long before quarantine camps are overrun and close contacts must be isolated, well, how, home isolation?

How long before we see full-on mainland-style Lockdowns of multiple different mass housing estates, each comprising many tens of thousands of residents?

And how the living fuck are we going to either deliver three meals a day per resident or sufficient groceries to each family - for weeks at a time?

How long before the whole fucking system begins to crumble and implode?

How long before people start to get REALLY pissed off and the already-underlying, smouldering, rage with government erupts into open rebellion and further mass protests?


And WHAT THE FUCK IS THE FUCKING EXIT STRATEGY you useless bunch of self-serving, sycophantic, CCP boot-licking, tosspots?!


Woof
 
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