spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
My neighbour took out a third mortgage on their house to help fight his Leukemia.....
"Healthcare" in the US
- Thread starter Yuwipi Woman
- Start date
My neighbour took out a third mortgage on their house to help fight his Leukemia.....
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
The only time I've heard about the BC elections are concerning the trade warsHope your party wins.
Did you heard about our floods?
The trade wars aren't a big issue here. The biggest issue is the cost of housing.
Yes, I heard about the flooding. These days, any weather-related story gets headline prominence.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
In Ontario?
The people I know here who've been treated for cancer, were usually in treatment within a week of diagnosis, and nobody paid an extra dime over and above the basic premium that everyone pays.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
I thought you lived in Canada?
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
So it's just as shitty in Canada than in the US then
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
So it's just as shitty in Canada than in the US then
No; not by a long shot.
Yossarian
⏭️
So it's just as shitty in Canada than in the US then
No, you don't have to pay for cancer treatment in Canada - and going private's not even an option in most provinces, as far as I know.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
spring-peeper 's post seems to contradict this
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Every province is slightly different; but I've never heard anything like that; and I know for a fact it isn't that way in this province, nor in the one next door.
FridgeMagnet
Administrator
There's a simple explanation: Brits love to hear horror stories about America. We have an unrealistic idea that the US is basically us but less civilised, and it reassures us that we're not all that badly off. I think there's also a dimension that's a reaction to a period a few decades ago when the US was seen as an amazing luxury country with cable TV and pizza delivery and teenagers with their own cars and phones. (That's from an 80s perspective too.)
Obviously this has a political aspect as well - "reforms" can be proposed which are between US levels and the current ones, thus be more extreme the more extreme the US situation.
Obviously this has a political aspect as well - "reforms" can be proposed which are between US levels and the current ones, thus be more extreme the more extreme the US situation.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Various things not covered here include dental work, basic optometry, and prescription costs - unless the patient falls within a certain category of limited means.
Yossarian
⏭️
I think some drugs may not be covered by the public system, but hospital treatment is definitely covered.
I broke my leg here in Ontario a couple of months ago, emergency room visit, crutches, the cast they put on my leg, X-rays, follow-up visits to the fracture clinic, and physio was all covered by the public system, only thing I might get an invoice for is the plastic Aircast boot I was given.
If that had happened in the states and I didn't have private insurance, I probably would have had to sell the other leg to pay for treatment.
spring-peeper
Well-Known Member
Do you want a link to him - he is very active raising money for other Leukemia victims and creating a new sport (walker racing). I 'm sure I can find one his TV interviews? Then you can ask him yourself
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
why does he needs to raise money if the Canadian national health service is so bountiful?
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
Unless I'm mistaken, there's a lot of 'maintenance' treatment involved with leukemia - meaning the purchase of prescriptions. And that can be prohibitively expensive.
I was talking about the types of cancers that are amenable to a combo of radiation and chemotherapy, resulting [hopefully] in remission, and without the need for further treatment once the initial treatment is completed.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
The system here isn't perfect. Nobody has said that it is.
But it's a hell of a lot better than what happens in the US.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
over here, you only pay for meds if you're employed and you only pay a fixed amount of £8.60 a time (for a month's worth, usually) - you do sometimes have to pay for more than one, but there are lots of exemptions, and if you have to have a load of different ones, you don't get charged at all. and this is only in England & NI. In Scotland and Wales, you don't get charged at all
Yossarian
⏭️
Is it one of those cases where people are raising money for new treatments that OHIP considers experimental and won't cover? Tough spot to be in, they're the kind of cases that had Sarah Palin spouting her nonsense about "death panels."
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
I don't think there's much doubt that the NHS provides more coverage than most systems.
Lots of people here have separate private insurance through their employers, that will cover many of the things not covered by the public system: dental, prescriptions, glasses etc. But if you don't have that separate insurance, and you have anything above a modest income, you'll be paying through the nose for dentistry and prescriptions.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
that's the same here to a certain extent, esp with dentistry, though people just pay for that rather than having insurance.
Johnny Canuck3
Well-Known Member
We also have what's known as a 'two-tiered' system in this province.
That means that there are private medical clinics and surgery centers, where people with money can go and get their knees fixed etc. next week.
There is currently a major court fight taking place over the parameters of that system, here in BC.
B.C. doctor fighting to open health care to private billing
That means that there are private medical clinics and surgery centers, where people with money can go and get their knees fixed etc. next week.
There is currently a major court fight taking place over the parameters of that system, here in BC.
B.C. doctor fighting to open health care to private billing
UnderOpenSky
baseline neural therapy
We are very lucky, but I guess if you were on a lot of different media, which you needed each month, then it would still be a fair wack. Still very lucky though.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
no, like i said, if you have to take loads, you get them all for free
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
just tick the dole box regardless, they never check. Scripts are free in scotland & wales even for workig people iirc
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
coley
Well-Known Member
Wanna bet? Forgot that me SIL had moved from IS to her state pension and I ticked the benefits box, got a bill for the total cost of the dentistry and a £100 fine!?, even though it was a genuine mistake, bastards.
That's dental treatment, not prescriptions though. I don't know how pharmacies work, but dentists have a contract with the NHS and have to submit everything to get paid.
T & P
|-o-| (-o-) |-o-|
How about childbirth (did a search for the word on this thread and couldn't find a match)? I seem to remember a program on Radio 4 that quoted a cost figure of several tens of thousands of dollars. Are mothers-to-be expected to pay that much? What about those who can't afford it?
weltweit
Well-Known Member
If the NHS type system were sold to the US population as an insurance scheme I doubt there would be so many calls that it is communist! Everyone pays into the government, via national insurance payments, and when you need treatment you get it free at the point of use!
Similar threads
- Poll
