Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[Coffeecup]

They haven't been able to jail the corrupt genocidal shit yet tho

That wouldn’t serve their purpose at the moment.

 

[Pickman's model]

That wouldn’t serve their purpose at the moment.

And what pray tell is their purpose at the moment?

 

[klang]

There is a religious Zionist political party in Israel.

Zionism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

do you really think they are the driving force behind the re-shuffling of the middle east?

 

[Pickman's model]

There is a religious Zionist political party in Israel.

Zionism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

who'd have dreamt it

 

[Coffeecup]

And what pray tell is their purpose at the moment?

I think to keep the war going.

 

[Pickman's model]

I think to keep the war going.

No, that's Netanyahu's purpose, in his ongoing quest to avoid jail

 

[Coffeecup]

do you really think they are the driving force behind the re-shuffling of the middle east?

Not entirely.

 

[Coffeecup]

No, that's Netanyahu's purpose, in his ongoing quest to avoid jail

He’s in a position where he can be manipulated. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t suit him.

 

[klang]

Not entirely.

tell us more please

 

[Coffeecup]

tell us more please

As I was told, read the books.

 

[PTK]

The Zionists can get Netanyahu to do anything they want in his vulnerable position and they know it.

Do you not know that Netanyahu and his party are themselves Zionists?

 

[CNT36]

I heard someone on telly (it could have been BBC News) say that Gaza should be administered by the [very corrupt] Palestinian Authority and unnamed international actors. I'm just wondering who these international actors are likely to be.

As for reconstruction: I suspect this will come with some serious strings attached. Especially, if the US is involved.

Talk of it being down to rich gulf monarchies on the radio.
I'm sure the Palestinian authority will work out fine for those in Gaza.

Meanwhie, in Jenin refugee camp on the West Bank, the Palestine Authority kills Palestinians.

Jenin: Shatha al-Sabbagh killing throws spotlight on West Bank power struggle

Shatha al-Sabbagh's family accuses the Palestinian Authority over her death in Jenin, but the PA blames "outlaws".

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[PTK]

It sends out the message that they're merciless. I actually think that that message was a big point for the entire thing. "The only language the Arabs understand is the language of force."

Mind you, it was the same in 1918 on the Western European front in the First World War. Soldiers were still shooting right up to 11:00 AM on 11 November.

 

[Sweet FA]

Mind you, it was the same in 1918 on the Western European front in the First World War. Soldiers were still shooting right up to 11:00 AM on 11 November.

 

[PTK]

Thanks for that.
I wonder if it was the same on all the other fronts when their armistices came in.

 

[Coffeecup]

Do you not know that Netanyahu and his party are themselves Zionists?

Anyone can be a Zionist.

 

[PTK]

Anyone can be a Zionist.

What does that mean?

 

[klang]

What does that mean?

Anyone can get netanyahu to do what they want. Even he, himself.

 

[CNT36]

i'd like to see the first draft

May have to dig it out.

 

[tim]

He’s in a position where he can be manipulated. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t suit him.

The idea that the zionist cabal are pulling Netanyahu's strings is a conspiracy theory that I have never heard before.

 

[Pickman's model]

The idea that the zionist cabal are pulling Netanyahu's strings is a conspiracy theory that I have never heard before.

it's the first fresh thing coffeecup's brought to the boards

 

[tim]

Anyone can be a Zionist.

Do you think Ismail Haniyeh could have been a Zionist? Maybe that why the Iranians bumped him off; or maybe they bumped him off because Khamanei is a Zionist. Perhaps, they were both Zionists from factions that loathed each other.

 

[Flavour]

ceasefire already looks in doubt. israel intensifying strikes and delaying cabinet meeting to approve it.

 

[Gramsci]

Anyone can be a Zionist.

Netanyahu is a Zionist. The Likud party is a Zionist party.

I think your getting mixed up with fact that most outspoken Zionists like Smotrich are in other parties.Smotrich is in Religious Zionist party.

Nearly all political parties in Israel are Zionist. From different wings of it.

 

[HeAthen]

Netanyahu is a Zionist. The Likud party is a Zionist party.

I think your getting mixed up with fact that most outspoken Zionists like Smotrich are in other parties.Smotrich is in Religious Zionist party.

Nearly all political parties in Israel are Zionist. From different wings of it.

Coffeecup specifically mentioned them

There is a religious Zionist political party in Israel.

Zionism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[klang]

Netanyahu is a Zionist. The Likud party is a Zionist party.

I think your getting mixed up with fact that most outspoken Zionists like Smotrich are in other parties.Smotrich is in Religious Zionist party.

Nearly all political parties in Israel are Zionist. From different wings of it.

i think they are referring to the murky ones, the ones in the shadows pulling the strings.

 

[Sue]

Coffeecup, this might be a better place for you to ask questions/find links to stuff that may help answer some of your questions:

I've started a thread for questions about the arab-israeli conflict with some useful links here Everything you wanted to know about the arab-israeli conflict thread

 

[magneze]

Biden or Trump – who should claim credit for the Gaza ceasefire deal?

Joe Biden says his team negotiated deal but Donald Trump claims it was agreed now only because he is about to become president

www.theguardian.com

Asking the important questions here.

 

[HeAthen]

Biden or Trump – who should claim credit for the Gaza ceasefire deal?

Joe Biden says his team negotiated deal but Donald Trump claims it was agreed now only because he is about to become president

www.theguardian.com

Asking the important questions here.

It's all about their 'legacy', and fuck all about giving a shit about the people suffering and being murdered on both sides.

 

[Coffeecup]

Coffeecup, this might be a better place for you to ask questions/find links to stuff that may help answer some of your questions:

Thanks.