Hamas/Israel conflict: news and discussion

[Pickman's model]

That's a really nice, measured response

i'd like to see the first draft

 

[Coffeecup]

So, why did you ask the question? What response were you expecting? Do you actually know nothing about the history of Judeophobia?

I asked the question because someone else asked me. I said antisemitism. They asked why does antisemitism exist?

 

[PTK]

You have to admire those members of the IDF who feel the need to keep killing people in the Gaza Strip right up until the deadline.
What is the [expletive] point?

 

[Knotted]

You have to admire those members of the IDF who feel the need to keep killing people in the Gaza Strip right up until the deadline.
What is the [expletive] point?

It sends out the message that they're merciless. I actually think that that message was a big point for the entire thing. "The only language the Arabs understand is the language of force."

 

[zahir]

Reactions in Gaza

Fragile hope spreads in Gaza as ceasefire deal reached

After 15 months of devastation, Palestinians anxiously await the chance to reunite with loved ones and return to what remains of their homes.

www.972mag.com

 

[brogdale]

It sends out the message that they're merciless. I actually think that that message was a big point for the entire thing. "The only language the Arabs understand is the language of force."

Exactly; the psychopathic cunts are still leveraging their genocide...

 

[Coffeecup]

Netanyahu doesn’t want a ceasefire, his head is on the line.

 

[brogdale]

As of late morning in Gaza...

50 people have been killed since dawn by Israeli airstrikes.

Just 50 more and the Israelis will have met their daily target.

 

[The39thStep]

Quite remarkable that we have gone from Biden agreeing in 2002 that Hamas must be "eliminated entirely" to Blinken's statement the other day that “Indeed, we assess that Hamas has recruited almost as many new militants as it has lost,”

 

[mojo pixy]

The birth of Zionism must also be seen in the context of the invention of nationalism. In the period in Europe following the French Revolution of 1789 the concept of the nation state came to be popular. This was not unconnected to the development of capitalism.

Essentially, if everyone else is benefiting from having their own states, and if they don't want us in those, why don't we make our own?

Not a completely unreasonable question, under the circumstances.

 

[CNT36]

I asked the question because someone else asked me. I said antisemitism. They asked why does antisemitism exist?

A lot of people asking that question are after an answer along the lines that Jews are evil.

 

[klang]

A lot of people asking that question are after an answer along the lines that Jews are evil.

at least a fair bit of (unintentional?) victim blaming in it.

 

[Ax^]

You have to admire those members of the IDF who feel the need to keep killing people in the Gaza Strip right up until the deadline.
What is the [expletive] point?

oh the odd are not done will killing people cease fire or no cease fire.. they will slow down the killing ..

 

[Coffeecup]

A lot of people asking that question are after an answer along the lines that Jews are evil.

No. Maybe the history shows the inhumanity of humans and that racism never has an answer to their motives. The hate towards Jewish people down through history is intolerable. To resolve the present situation I think the whole history has to be looked at.

 

[Aladdin]

No. Maybe the history shows the inhumanity of humans and that racism never has an answer to their motives. The hate towards Jewish people down through history is intolerable. To resolve the present situation I think the whole history has to be looked at.

Maybe on a different thread? This is Israel / Hamas war thread

 

[Idris2002]

Is this an antisemitic dogwhistle?

You betcha! Whether it's intentional or not, who knows.

 

[Dystopiary]

Doctors Against Genocide have put out a statement on the ceasefire:

The ceasefire offers a much awaited relief, for our People in Gaza but it is no substitute for justice. The genocide in Gaza has claimed countless lives, targeted healthcare workers, destroyed hospitals, and shattered communities.

We demand accountability, the dismantling of the Genocide Enablement Apparatus, the end of the occupation, the dismantling of the apartheid system, the full human rights for our people, and our own self determination and immediate global action to correct centuries old injustices. Without justice, this horror will continue unchecked.

Full statement: Doctors Against Genocide

 

[Aladdin]

Netanyahu...just now the BBC saying he has backtracked on deal.

 

[Ax^]

self preservation from Benjamin if election are called and he loses he may end up in jail

guess the Zionist party treating to quit his government is enough to give him the cause to pause

 

[Sasaferrato]

a lot of people will die after that too

Yes, they will. Also, unless all crossing points are fully opened with free movement of food, medical equipment, building materiel etc, the 'ceasefire' is completely pointless. It just moves death from explosive to slow.

 

[Sasaferrato]

So, why did you ask the question? What response were you expecting? Do you actually know nothing about the history of Judeophobia?

The question is valid, but the answer is too long and complex to be answered here.

 

[HeAthen]

Netanyahu...just now the BBC saying he has backtracked on deal.

self preservation from Benjamin if election are called and he loses he may end up in jail

guess the Zionist party treating to quit his government is enough to give him the cause to pause

Sadly none of this particularly surprises me.

 

[teqniq]

Anybody surprised by this? Not me.

Smotrich demands IDF return to fighting after first phase of deal

The statement indicated that Smotrich did not receive the assurances he demanded in an earlier meeting with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

www.jpost.com

 

[Coffeecup]

The Zionists can get Netanyahu to do anything they want in his vulnerable position and they know it.

 

[nino_savatte]

Why were Jewish people persecuted and murdered for so long? Why did Hitler pick on them?

Seriously?

 

[nino_savatte]

Meanwhile, in the West Bank.

IDF admits 'serious offence' after using vehicle marked ambulance in raid in which a grandmother was killed

A Sky News investigation analysed footage of when Halima Abu Leil was shot in Nablus - and we noted how a blue vehicle marked as an "ambulance" appeared to have been used by Israeli troops in the West Bank.

news.sky.com

 

[nino_savatte]

I heard someone on telly (it could have been BBC News) say that Gaza should be administered by the [very corrupt] Palestinian Authority and unnamed international actors. I'm just wondering who these international actors are likely to be.

As for reconstruction: I suspect this will come with some serious strings attached. Especially, if the US is involved.

 

[klang]

The Zionists can get Netanyahu to do anything they want in his vulnerable position and they know it.

who are 'the zionists', where are they, and what do they do?

 

[Pickman's model]

The Zionists can get Netanyahu to do anything they want in his vulnerable position and they know it.

They haven't been able to jail the corrupt genocidal shit yet tho

 

[Coffeecup]

who are 'the zionists', where are they, and what do they do?

There is a religious Zionist political party in Israel.

Zionism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org