butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The vote went up and the vote held though. Need turnout.
Griffin and BNP strategy
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taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
The activist is local and they had a good-ish local base. They put quite a bit of effort in (not as much as they said mind). The increase doesnt match the current press hype of their increased prospects.
Romford and Horchurch aren't in any county, so where are Third Way/National Liberal Party standing
By election result yesterday, Salford Irwell Riverside
Labour 606
Lib Dem 293
BNP 276 (17.1%)
Con 189
Green 125
UKIP 123
Much debate elsewhere as to whether this is a good or bad result for BNP- but their vote up from May 2008 in same ward
Turnout 17.5%
Green and UKIP not beating BNP here......
Labour 606
Lib Dem 293
BNP 276 (17.1%)
Con 189
Green 125
UKIP 123
Much debate elsewhere as to whether this is a good or bad result for BNP- but their vote up from May 2008 in same ward
Turnout 17.5%
Green and UKIP not beating BNP here......
dennisr
the acceptable face
All still to play for - a low result for the BNP like the prediction above would not be that bad a result at all. It would be a concious decision by voters not to vote for them - especially given all the coverage they have in the mediaI'm not holding my breath at the moment though.
butchersapron
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Neither am I, as this almost certainly underestimates the level of support for the BNP, considering that there will be those BNP voters reluctant to admit they'll be voting for these fuckwits.
in euros? or CC?? and are TW standing against BNP???
in euros? or CC?? and are TW standing against BNP???
Both fighting a by election in Hornchurch on June 4th- Havering St Andrews ward
Note that BNP website down all weekend in a DNS attack at present. One interesting thing picked up from the Independant article this morning on their web presence
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...cks-than-all-other-major-parties-1690406.html
And this is that they are not promoting the use of their website for queries, but are promoting a phone number for voters to call instead. I had put the absence of their website address on their election communciations down to another Collett balls up, but apparently its another lesson they learned from the Obama campaign - its better to get an enquirer on the phone than point them to a website. This type of thinking shows slightly less organisational chaos than searchlight would have us all believe
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...cks-than-all-other-major-parties-1690406.html
And this is that they are not promoting the use of their website for queries, but are promoting a phone number for voters to call instead. I had put the absence of their website address on their election communciations down to another Collett balls up, but apparently its another lesson they learned from the Obama campaign - its better to get an enquirer on the phone than point them to a website. This type of thinking shows slightly less organisational chaos than searchlight would have us all believe
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Oh I don't know some are suggesting that the DoS attack is a sham and a cover story for the move to another provider - and maybe their backups are crap and their expertise in re-creating the site are inadequate?
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
The express did a poll in the NW constituency of Salford, Blears seat (and where there was a by-election last week):
BNP - 38.4%
Labour - 19.2 %
Tories 13.4 %
Liberal Democrats - 10.7%
Greens - 7.1%
UK Independent Party 7.1%
Now that's clearly bonkers, but is it more bonkers than the poll which has them on 1%? The Express gives no details of the poll other than saying it was based on 500 people and that's it!
BNP - 38.4%
Labour - 19.2 %
Tories 13.4 %
Liberal Democrats - 10.7%
Greens - 7.1%
UK Independent Party 7.1%
Now that's clearly bonkers, but is it more bonkers than the poll which has them on 1%? The Express gives no details of the poll other than saying it was based on 500 people and that's it!
Would put both polls as bonkers. I cant honesltly see BNP falling back to 1999 levels in the current political climate
They are either going to poll 3.5% nationally and win nothing, or poll 7% nationally, 2 MEPs and 15 county councillors.
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The loon Darby says "there is no doubt that whoever has organised this has had to pay out a serious amount of money to the criminal underworld."
but that is Pat's turf .. how does he feel about griffin standing against him?? .. and what does that say about Solidarity!
but that is Pat's turf .. how does he feel about griffin standing against him?? .. and what does that say about Solidarity!
Harrington is based in Edinburgh and has been for years now, and however well TW and BNP get on in Solidarity, they cant co-operate in regards to electoral politics. No diferrent to soem of the left united fronts where they co-operate on one issue (say antifascism) and fight like hell on everything else
http://euobserver.com/9/28175
One interesting onsevration from Gerry Gable in an interveiew given to a UKIP freindly site where he admits a BNp seat is "probable"
"The far-right British National Party however was on just one percent, down substantially from other polls that have given the whites-only anti-immigrant party four percent or as much as seven.
"Scandals over sleaze in the BNP have hit them as well, with reports of [the party's leader, Nick Griffin] having spent thousands of pounds in party funds on an extension built on his home in Wales," Gerry Gable, the publisher of Searchlight, the long-standing anti-fascist magazine, told EUobserver, "and other party funds lost starting a second-hand car business that went belly-up within months."
"The threat from the BNP has been overblown," he said. "Consistently, the BNP have scored around four to five percent in polls, despite the expenses scandal. The Guardian poll result is too low."
"But the BNP have blown it. A few months ago Ukip was on six or seven percent, but since the campaign kicked off, it's Ukip that have scooped up all these angry voters, not the BNP."
The Labour front bench has at times suggested the party may even win as many as seven seats, a figure recently touted by the Daily Telegraph as well, but Mr Cable believes this is just government politicians trying to "boost their own importance".
"One seat is quite probable though," reckoned Mr Cable. "But don't panic - that's the best they're going to do.
One interesting onsevration from Gerry Gable in an interveiew given to a UKIP freindly site where he admits a BNp seat is "probable"
"The far-right British National Party however was on just one percent, down substantially from other polls that have given the whites-only anti-immigrant party four percent or as much as seven.
"Scandals over sleaze in the BNP have hit them as well, with reports of [the party's leader, Nick Griffin] having spent thousands of pounds in party funds on an extension built on his home in Wales," Gerry Gable, the publisher of Searchlight, the long-standing anti-fascist magazine, told EUobserver, "and other party funds lost starting a second-hand car business that went belly-up within months."
"The threat from the BNP has been overblown," he said. "Consistently, the BNP have scored around four to five percent in polls, despite the expenses scandal. The Guardian poll result is too low."
"But the BNP have blown it. A few months ago Ukip was on six or seven percent, but since the campaign kicked off, it's Ukip that have scooped up all these angry voters, not the BNP."
The Labour front bench has at times suggested the party may even win as many as seven seats, a figure recently touted by the Daily Telegraph as well, but Mr Cable believes this is just government politicians trying to "boost their own importance".
"One seat is quite probable though," reckoned Mr Cable. "But don't panic - that's the best they're going to do.
hmm
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
I particularly enjoyed the funeral music playing in the background. Nice touch. If only it was 1945 and we'd just won the war. What a bunch of clowns.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I had the sound down cos I was busy surfing and I looked over my shoulder to see Griffins dead eyes boring into my back.
Maybe just as well you had the sound down. This is all very amusing considering TV guidelines on racism etc. Remember the outrage regarding a throwaway racist comment on shit telly (Big Brother) yet here's someone who built an entire career around racism given free space??
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