Griffin and BNP strategy

[Zachor]

thats funny, I thought he was a supposed to be a "drunken, warmongering slob"

He was the best man for the job at the time though. I wouldn't have trusted Lord Halifax to deal with the fascist menace.

Therein lies the irony. Nationalist fash using a fighter against fascism for their campaign.

 

[butchersapron]

Some of you were discussing how best to vote tactically to keep the BNP. A lot of the national polls have UKIP benefitting from the current anger rather than the BNP - i saw one on voting intentions for euros (not GE) and they were on 19%, (up 12%!) with the BNP static.

 

[joevsimp]

He was the best man for the job at the time though. I wouldn't have trusted Lord Halifax to deal with the fascist menace.

Therein lies the irony. Nationalist fash using a fighter against fascism for their campaign.

well yes, my quote was something Tony Lecomber said years ago that always gets brought up

 

[Zachor]

On matters BNP and Elections I always check the betting markets to see if the bookies know something i dont

http://sports.williamhill.com/bet/EN/betting/t/1759/European-Politics.html

BNP to get a seat
1-5 on Yes
10-3 No

BNP to get 5 seats
4-1 Yes
1-7 on No


Bnp to win a seat at next general election
8-1 (10-1 last week)

Not a good sign

Thats frighteningly good odds on bnp victories.

 

[Zachor]

Conservative activists are now cranking up the fight against the BNP. Although it may be 'too little too late' for it to have affect on the Euros it may have a greater impact on the General Election.

http://www.nothingbritish.com/

I like the phrase 'There's nothing British about the BNP' which I feel will carry quite far.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Some of you were discussing how best to vote tactically to keep the BNP. A lot of the national polls have UKIP benefitting from the current anger rather than the BNP - i saw one on voting intentions for euros (not GE) and they were on 19%, (up 12%!) with the BNP static.

Pissed off with the status quo although basically conservative, and a bit xenophobic but not actually out and out racist – the 'you are welcome here whatever your colour so long as you integrate' option. I would guess that there are quite a few people like that.

 

[JimPage]

Some of you were discussing how best to vote tactically to keep the BNP. A lot of the national polls have UKIP benefitting from the current anger rather than the BNP - i saw one on voting intentions for euros (not GE) and they were on 19%, (up 12%!) with the BNP static.

BNP are anywhere between 2% and 4% in the polls, and these polls, based on past election, under estimate their support by 20% or more

As to whether this will go up to the 7% odd national level they need to start winning seats very much depends on the Daily Telegraph now,and whether they stop printing esposes of MPs expenses. Its not so much the switch from say Tory to UKIP which matters, its whether say Labour can get its core vote out. And with what has been said in the Telegraph, that is not a certain thing, BNP threat or no BNP threat.

Wheteher, for example, Labour can get their activists out, or whether they will decide that the next 3 weeks is a good time for some gardening

 

[JimPage]

Thats frighteningly good odds on bnp victories.

I agree. The fact is bookies dont put their money behind odds like these unless there is something in it. 5-1 is like saying its 80% certain they will get a seat ( if my maths are correct)

 

[glenquagmire]

As a Labour activist, I have to say that the tomato plants need watering a lot at this time of year.

 

[glenquagmire]

I agree. The fact is bookies dont put their money behind odds like these unless there is something in it. 5-1 is like saying its 80% certain they will get a seat ( if my maths are correct)

If you mean 1-5 then yes, they estimate an 83% chance of them getting a seat.

 

[Corax]

This vitriol is all rather sad.

The BNP is a proper political party and their views should be accorded due respect. Immigration is a touchy issue, but the BNP are unafraid to tackle it head-on. I for one welcome our nazi overlords.


Seriously though, why is anyone bothered? Griffin's a joke. The BNP are a joke. Whenever one of their spokesmen get any exposure, they embarass themselves. Fuck 'em, they're not even worth talking about.

 

[JimPage]

Conservative activists are now cranking up the fight against the BNP. Although it may be 'too little too late' for it to have affect on the Euros it may have a greater impact on the General Election.

http://www.nothingbritish.com/

I like the phrase 'There's nothing British about the BNP' which I feel will carry quite far.

The problem is
1. Its Conservative activists- and the Tories name is mud with the public right now

2. Its sub searchlight pish about the BNP simply being a bunch of Rapists and Murderers

 

[passthesalt]

The problem is
1. Its Conservative activists- and the Tories name is mud with the public right now

2. Its sub searchlight pish about the BNP simply being a bunch of Rapists and Murderers

They've already been rumbled

http://www.democracyforum.co.uk/british-politics-other-parties/61185-nothingbritish-com.html

and if the numpties there can rumble them then anyone can.

 

[butchersapron]

Yep, look at them calling the BNP socialist

The BNP has a hard line socialist economic policy

 

[Col_Buendia]

Just had a BNP election leaflet through my door with the post. Quite fucked off about that. IS the CWU not questioning it this time round - last time I seem to remember that the posties refused to carry their leaflets...?

 

[JimPage]

http://bnp. (broken link) org.uk/category/election-candidates-2009/

Full list of District, County and Euro canddiates here

 

[butchersapron]

From tommorows Observer

A poll published today on the website PoliticsHome.com, and previewed exclusively by the Observer, shows that the scandal has driven more than a quarter of voters to change the party they support. The main beneficiary is Ukip, followed by the British National party and the Greens.

Complicated.

 

[treelover]

If only No2EU had got their act together much earlier, says it all really

 

[Grandma Death]

British Job for British People doesnt extend to advertising agencies by all accounts.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-st...workers-uses-american-actors-115875-21365018/

 

[joevsimp]

If only No2EU had got their act together much earlier, says it all really

yes, CNWP has existed for a couple of years now (I thought of joining it but I didn't think it'd ever get beyond the Socialist Party and their smaller allies) Bob Crow has only himself to blame* if they end up with nothing come june.


*thats just for the poor timing, if he came up with the shite name then he diserves another slap

 

[Jean-Luc]

From tommorows Observer

A poll published today on the website PoliticsHome.com, and previewed exclusively by the Observer, shows that the scandal has driven more than a quarter of voters to change the party they support. The main beneficiary is Ukip, followed by the British National party and the Greens.

Complicated.

It means that the best way to stop the BNP getting any MEPs (if that's your priority of priorities) is probably not just to vote UKIP yourself but to encourage others to as well. But how many of youse who are jumping up and down about the BNP getting seats will really take the logic of their ostensible position that far. Not many, if any, I dare say. In other words, you don't really think that stopping the BNP is the most important issue in this election. Which in fact it isn't.

 

[butchersapron]

Well, i'm voting NF to keep the BNP out.

 

[Gingerman]

Bnp shoots itself in the foot part fuck knows what no.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...harry-only-got-medal-because-he-is-black.html

 

[treelover]

I am surrounded by white people who wouldn't know a days work if it bit them on their fat racist whining arses who go on and on about "the Poles" and the "Kosovans" (they mean the Iraquis) coming over here and stealing our jobs.

WHAT!???????

Your jobs?

You could not fill that bus with white indigenous Brits if you filled it with free Lambrini and White Lightning and dragged burning foreigners behind i

Poster on Cif, way to go girl, this is surely the way to gather support against the BNP

 

[JimPage]

Few odds and sods

Election broadcast Friday, at 6.55, this is their prime time broadcast

By election tomorrow in Salford, keeping eyes on % vote here, in a ward they have never been able to do much in at past elections. UKIP & Green opposition

Bookies odd. Odds now 4/6 on and 11/10 against that they will win a euro seat- but betting odds all over place at moment

New British Jobs for British workers protests breaking out just as their leaflets hitting mats

 

[JimPage]

Well, i'm voting NF to keep the BNP out.

Which reminds me, just 3 NF, 1 EFP and 1 TW candidate this time round

 

[treelover]

New British Jobs for British workers protests breaking out just as their leaflets hitting mats

and?

 

[butchersapron]

Salford (Irwell Riverside)

Labour 606
Lib Dem 293
BNP 276 (17.1%)
Con 189
Green 125
UKIP 123

turnout 17.5%

Looks like hold steady - not a great improvement in these times. Will be dissapointed. NW vote that's good for euros.

 

[butchersapron]

Labour go up by 200. Odd
Tory large dip, lib dem small dip.

Stephen Coen Labour 888
Anthony Healey British National Party 233
David Lewis Conservative 286
Kenneth Mckelvey Liberal Democrats 337

 

[taffboy gwyrdd]

Not as bad as might have been. Certainly not on the level of the Moston result a few weeks back and not showing a big advance in the light of anti-establishment sentiment.