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Griffin and BNP strategy

The fash held a fund raising event at a pub in the centre of Sutton-in-Ashfield, Notts, last night.
Indymedia Notts Report.
They have so far been unsuccessful electorally in the West Notts area due largely to the strength of the Independents on local councils and their own relative disorganisation in the area. This could signal more of a push around the Euros.
 
greenman said:
The fash held a fund raising event at a pub in the centre of Sutton-in-Ashfield, Notts, last night.
Indymedia Notts Report.
They have so far been unsuccessful electorally in the West Notts area due largely to the strength of the Independents on local councils and their own relative disorganisation in the area. This could signal more of a push around the Euros.
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Looks to me like they've started to deliberately work on areas with strong independent groupings following their success in riding on the back of the independents campaigns in Stoke and more specifically in boston late last year where they took a seat off the Boston Bypass Independents.
 
makes sense for them- a) because if electing an independent hasn't made the political class wake up, then the "scandalising" effect of electing a BNP seems the last available option, and b) the presence of an independent can further split the vote meaning that with not much more than 20% they could get a candidate elected under FPTP.
 
articul8 said:
makes sense for them- a) because if electing an independent hasn't made the political class wake up, then the "scandalising" effect of electing a BNP seems the last available option, and b) the presence of an independent can further split the vote meaning that with not much more than 20% they could get a candidate elected under FPTP.
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It might also provide a useful precedent in terms of casting a vote outside the mainstream which has had a result.

Louis MacNeice
 
butchersapron said:
Looks to me like they've started to deliberately work on areas with strong independent groupings following their success in riding on the back of the independents campaigns in Stoke and more specifically in boston late last year where they took a seat off the Boston Bypass Independents.
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Would agree, once people get out of a voting habit of voting for the main three parties, BNP can step in, especially when the Independants are incompetent, as in Boston and Stoke, and before that Burnley. And that even extends to targetting ex-NFer Phil Andrew`s ward in Isleworth in London as well- he stands as an Independant on Hounslow council

3 more bits of BNP related news.

They are fighting a by election in Aberdeenshire- a huge ward centred on Braemar

One of their stalls was attacked yesterday in that well known heartland of antifascism, Kendal in Cumbria. One antifascist arrested

http://www.thewestmorlandgazette.co.uk/news/4233280.BNP_clash_with_protestors_in_Kendal/

And after a Tory Councillor joined Labour, they now hold the balance of power on Thurrock council
 
Yarborough

Lib Dems 35.8%
Conservatives 24.1%
Labour 20.5%
BNP 17.4%
Generalist 2.3%

Melton (no idea where this is)

Con 463
IND 231
BNP 120 (13.1% )
Labour 100
 
Melton Council, as in Melton Mowbray, East Mids i presume

council area is 98% white (wikipedia), 15kms from Leicester so there may be a few white flighters out there.
 
where to said:
Melton Council, as in Melton Mowbray, East Mids i presume

council area is 98% white (wikipedia), 15kms from Leicester so there may be a few white flighters out there.
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The ward itself is an affluent rural ward where it's normally just a Tory and Independant stand.

Looking at % votes, again looking good for them for June, especially Grimsby where their candidate got an abysmal local press
 
Looks like solid consolidation in Leeds, there's about 6 of theses massive wards where they're over 20% and so usually over around at least 1000 votes. Last ime out 1560 (22.7%) and 3rd, this time c25% and 2nd.

Skircoat ward (Halifax)

Conservative 1,277 35.4%
Liberal Democrat 1,259 34.9%
Labour 274 7.6%
Independent 238 6.6%
BNP 235 6.5%
Independent 229 6.4%
Green 92 2.6%

One more to come in Dormanstown, Redcar.
 
couple more from yesterday

Arun Felpham West
Con 630
LibDem 269
BNP 165 13.7%
UKIP 89
Lab 56

Turnout was 30.2%

Redcar Dormanstown

Lib Dem 809
Lab 667
BNP 305 16.0%
Con 125

Turnout 36.8%
 
butchersapron said:
Looks like solid consolidation in Leeds, there's about 6 of theses massive wards where they're over 20% and so usually over around at least 1000 votes. Last ime out 1560 (22.7%) .
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Agreed, this was a large ward where Lab/Tory/Lib were all contenders,and fough solid campaigns. For them to consolidate their vote with % vote going up a bit is not a bad result for them, and as you say, another second place for them

Its a huge ward covering one of the 4 wards in the Leeds East parliamentary constituency
 
butchersapron said:
Skircoat ward (Halifax)

Conservative 1,277 35.4%
Liberal Democrat 1,259 34.9%
Labour 274 7.6%
Independent 238 6.6%
BNP 235 6.5%
Independent 229 6.4%
Green 92 2.6%
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thats poor .. is this any relationship to the Kirkless expulsions? though it also looks like a very middle class ward ( didn't realise halifax did middle class! :D ) ok no was a new ward for them .. and very tory by the look
 
Leeds MBC
Temple Newsam Ward
Thursday 2nd April 2009
David SCHOFIELD (Conservatives) 1785
Tom REDMOND (BNP) 1502
Danny ADILYPOUR (Labour) 1476
Ian DOWLING (Lib Dems) 1468
Christopher FOREN (Greens) 137
BNP Percentage: 23.6%
May 2008: Con 2386, Lab 2083, BNP 1560, LibDem 521, Ind 487.

Calderdale MBC
Skircoat Ward
Thursday 2nd April 2009
John HARDY (Conservative)1277
Pauline NASH (Liberal Democrat) 1259
Anne COLLINS (Labour) 274
Paul BRANNIGAN (Independent) 238
Chris GODRIDGE (British National Party) 235
Phillip CROSSLEY (Independent) 229
Viv SMITH (Green Party) 92
BNP Percentage: 6.5%
May 2008: Con 2132, LibDem 1305, Lab 308, Green 202.

Arun DC
Felpham West
Thursday 2nd April 2009
Gill MADELEY (Conservative) 630
Martin LURY (Liberal Democrat) 269
Mike WITCHELL (BNP) 167
John PHILLIPS (UKIP) 89
Michelle WHITE (Labour) 56
BNP Percentage: 13.7%
May 2007% Con 810 / 726, Ind 585, UKIP 333, LibDem 330.

Redcar/Cleveland UA
Dormanstown Ward
Thursday 2nd April 2009
Ken LUCAS (Lib-Dem) 809
Marian FAIRLEY (Lab) 667
Lynn PAYNE (BNP) 305
Brian HUGHES-MUNDY (Con) 125
BNP Percentage: 16.0%
May 2007: Lab 858 / 805 / 758, LibDem 414 / 412 / 386, Con 374.
 
MC5 said:
Respect beat the BNP in 11 out of 16 wards, and Ukip in 5 out of 7.
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So, that's that then. The BNP are not a threat. Just a bunch of comedy Nazis in suits, with a slimey leader who has delusions of grandeur. And whose only point is for the other Partys to wheel out in elections to get people to take part in elections, when, in reality, they would realise what a pantomime the whole thing is and stay away.
 
There are postings on my local forum by someone calling themselves 'peoples voice' who is arguing for the BNP with a very sophicated 'pro-working class orientation/argument: to write them off as MC5 in any way is bad politics, in truth she/he makes more cogent arguments, even if one doesn't agree with them than M5, UAF, etc, they are strides ahead and the votes show it.
 
frogwoman said:
Who are the "generalists"? independents/fash/lefties?

anyone know?
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They're nothing

Murderers, rapists and paedophiles walk our streets with immunity! They are convicted and released for good behaviour! Our prisons have become holiday homes! Parents worry constantly for the safety of their children. Our Government, instead of punishing them, rewards these disgusting criminals! Our government ignores your fears and your anger and does nothing to protect us!
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sf locals reckon they're ex-tories.
 
The article says "on the run from justice", clearly implying that Fiore (whom no one seriously doubts is a nasty piece of work) was involved in the Bologna bombings of 1980.

Was there ever proven be a link between Fiore and the Bologna bombings?

I've always assumed he was involved but the Wiki article about him seems less certain.
 
Meltingpot said:
The article says "on the run from justice", clearly implying that Fiore (whom no one seriously doubts is a nasty piece of work) was involved in the Bologna bombings of 1980.

Was there ever ever proven be a link between Fiore and the Bologna bombings?

I've always assumed he was involved but the Wiki article about him seems less certain.
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In a word, No. And Fiore, like it or not , is now an MEP,and this meeting was more about cementing links in the run up to the euro elections with a view to re-juvenating the ITS Euronationalist blok in the European Parliament

http://www.predict09.eu/default/en-us/state_analyses.aspx

Suevery published two days ago indicates that Euronationaslist parties from Austria, Belguim, Denmark, Holland, Sweden and Italy will probably get in as well as Eastern Europe, whisch i dont know too much about, as well as acknowledging the BNP could win a seat.

A pathetic political response as usual from Searchlight, simply describing this as a Nazi Rally
 
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