The Black Hand
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Overall Sunderland BNP vote DOWN by 231 votes - down 3.09%. Year on year decline for the BNP here
Griffin and BNP strategy
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Not having a go Attica but in post 1440 you write: "Up 3.153% - standing still" and in the next post you write "down 3.09%. Year on year decline for the BNP here". So when the vote goes up by a small amount, it's 'standing still', but when it goes down by an equally small amount, it's evidence of decline. You see the inconsistency?
The Black Hand
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There is a difference between numbers in an individual ward and a total vote. Yes, there is apparent inconsistency, but the down vote is year on year decline - so if you add previous decline into it, it is magnified. You see now?
The Black Hand
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JIms analysis has been said for some time, it is obvious Liberal left anti fascism, and I include SWP in this, is not working. Combine this with ultra left failure (IWCA loss 2 seats) leaves a big crisis in anti fascism with the existing accepted players shot.
So that leaves the way open for MAYDAY magazine to lead the way
issue 2 out soon with the best analysis of what is going on. It theorises combined and uneven development perspectives which are necessary for serious radical thought today, now that teleology is clearly dead for what passes as current anti fascism (usual suspect positions).
JHE
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Praxis makes perfect gibberish
Brilliant!
I will be disappointed, though, if there are no articles dealing with foxes, parking meters, smuggled fags and the experience of the Anarchist International Brigade's armed solidarity with Hezbollah.
JIms analysis has been said for some time, it is obvious Liberal left anti fascism, and I include SWP in this, is not working. Combine this with ultra left failure (IWCA loss 2 seats) leaves a big crisis in anti fascism with the existing accepted players shot.
So that leaves the way open for MAYDAY magazine to lead the way
Brilliant!
I will be disappointed, though, if there are no articles dealing with foxes, parking meters, smuggled fags and the experience of the Anarchist International Brigade's armed solidarity with Hezbollah.
Don't talk BULL crap. Look I do know and I've read O'Haras analysis too, though not his entire PHD. I do not accept that they are theoretically correct. You are laughable when you say I do not know what UK fascism is, that's just RUBBISH.
I haven't blathered on at all - that's just chit chat about Barnsley, not a developed political position.
See Mayday issue 1 for that, and Mayday issue 2 will have several articles about Fascism 2008 (more than anybody else with perhaps the exception of Borderland) and that includes you cos you do not write for any magazines as far as I know.
You are ignoring their %% drop in the vote, it is going down year on year - it dropped last year and it has again. You need to read MAYDAY issue 2 for the analysis. RED ACTION/IWCA cannot and do not explain this drop, and MAYDAY will be the first mag to do so.
no sorry i repeat .. you do NOT understand uk fascism in 2008 .. if you did you would not make the incredibly out of touch and nieve comments you regularly make whihc appear to be based on personal antagonism instead of political analysis of real forces ..
- the bnp now have 100 councillors .. when has the far right had anything like this??
- their vote has again gone up .. yes???
- the % going down is, as has been said on MANY an occasion, simply a reflection of them standing in more areas .. it is NOTHING to crow about ..
- they have though been squeezed - one by the tories ( as in 79) and 2 ( jim page please note ) to an extent by the large scale ( daily mirror, gaunt, littlejohn etc etc etc) campaign against them ( doesn't make people less angry and disillusioned but may put them off actually voting bnp for now while they remain small)
- and you continually confuse the idea they will take power ( which NO ONE is suggesting with the damage they do in w/c areas and in our attempt to recreate w/c power )
but if you had bothered to read wingfields article you would have seen they had already factored this and will be very very happy with their progress
h t t p://w w w.b n p.org.uk/2008/05/01/the-bnps-quiet-revolution-has-been-built-on-firm-foundations/
"Today, people will be voting on a range of political issues that directly affect them. Whether they will be voting for the BNP will solely depend on whether we have got our message across to them through our activists on the doorstep. Every single media outlet, without exception, has ceaselessly promoted the anti-BNP campaign. The column inches in the newspapers attacking the BNP over the past couple of weeks probably runs into miles! So any success that we might achieve in these elections will only come from the hard work of our activists and the leaflets, broadcasts and Internet coverage that has been produced and generated by the Party itself.
For the British National Party these local elections have already been a stunning success. Over one thousand new members since the start of the campaign and before a single vote has even been counted. Enquiries have come from thousands more seeking to join and help the BNP, and a dozen new councillors have already been elected unopposed, albeit at town and parish level. All this is another small but sure-footed step along the path to more political influence.
When the results come through tonight and tomorrow, this is what our members and everyone who supports and votes for the British National Party must have in their minds. We have already won, we don’t need to wait for the media or the establishment’s political pundits to tell us what we have achieved. Our Quiet Revolution is ongoing and it is built on having the right political policies that are being promoted to the public by dedicated teams of BNP campaigners across the country. Our Quiet Revolution is built on firm foundations, not media headlines."
The Black Hand
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You make typical old leftist know it all statements repeatedly, and cannot recognise a new perspective if it bit your bum. There is personal antagonism but they are as guilty as I - it takes 2 to Tango remember, how many times do I have to point this out I do not know. You/they are in denial of responsibility for their role in politics as 'old left sectarian bitch fighting'.
A) That is meaningless, 100 seats out of 20k is fuck all. AS I have said before this struggle is just beginning... It has been totally marginal for the past 15 years plus but now it is getting too important to be ignored, which still doesn't mean it affects everybody or everybodies struggles yet.
B) Their vote is going down overall, up in some areas down in others, quite wildly in some places as my examples on this thread show.
C) I think crowing about BNP failure is vital, otherwise you join in with fascist analysis.
D) Of course - that's why they despise Littlejohn so much and why UKIP have done ok.
E) No.
F) Fuck 'em. Lets gloat about the areas where they have done badly and disillusion them
I play no part in giving potentially disillusioned BNP activists solace and comfort.The Black Hand
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The Black Hand
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Incidentally I've just been on Libcrap/limpcok/libcom and have looked on their forums, including News/theory/organise and there is no discussion of the election results.
POLL - A) Wierd B) Wankers C) What do you expect from ultra leftists?
POLL - A) Wierd B) Wankers C) What do you expect from ultra leftists?
The Black Hand
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Here's link to article & link to the AF editorial from their 2 yearly magazine - a very poor editorial if you ask me http://libcom.org/forums/announcements/af-magazine-organise-70-out-23042008
There's nothing practical in that, just an awful lot of well meaning nothingness - 'shoulders to the wheel, let's be virtuous in bad conditions'. Not enough by far for me...
http://libcom.org/forums/announcements/af-magazine-organise-70-out-23042008There's nothing practical in that, just an awful lot of well meaning nothingness - 'shoulders to the wheel, let's be virtuous in bad conditions'. Not enough by far for me...
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Have to say, i don't recall you slagging anyone off for disgareeing with you Jim, just forcefully disagreeing.
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
Durrito, My problem is my experience in my area.
The BNP stood. They have done nothing in the area previous to the election,in fact the candidate and most of the leafleter's were parachuted in. As far as I know, they didn't go knocking on doors, they just tried to put through a leaflet. By contrast the respect renewal campaign has been running for several years in a neighbouring area. They have had a constant several year presence on the streets over various issues. And very good white female candidate. She came in third with a creditable 502 votes (the white male Labour Party candidate 1475). The BNP merchant came in second with 828 Votes (Labour Party candidate 1328).
In my experience the relationship between the votes has far more to do with the national perspective, rather than the local stuff or the BNP. In my opinion, from what I have observed in my area, a left candidate has to work 10 or 20 times harder than a fascist for a vote. Not only that, because the BNP can rely upon a more passive membership, just turning out to leaflet and the odd publicity stunt, the BNP can recruit better. The respect renewal people find people do respect and admire what they are doing, but are frightened by the level of activity seen as "necessary" to be an active member.
The BNP stood. They have done nothing in the area previous to the election,in fact the candidate and most of the leafleter's were parachuted in. As far as I know, they didn't go knocking on doors, they just tried to put through a leaflet. By contrast the respect renewal campaign has been running for several years in a neighbouring area. They have had a constant several year presence on the streets over various issues. And very good white female candidate. She came in third with a creditable 502 votes (the white male Labour Party candidate 1475). The BNP merchant came in second with 828 Votes (Labour Party candidate 1328).
In my experience the relationship between the votes has far more to do with the national perspective, rather than the local stuff or the BNP. In my opinion, from what I have observed in my area, a left candidate has to work 10 or 20 times harder than a fascist for a vote. Not only that, because the BNP can rely upon a more passive membership, just turning out to leaflet and the odd publicity stunt, the BNP can recruit better. The respect renewal people find people do respect and admire what they are doing, but are frightened by the level of activity seen as "necessary" to be an active member.
hi mate .. hope you good .. yes not good is it .. and what you say shows they have moved up a level .. they now have the national profile that means they do not even need to do the door knocking
You make typical old leftist know it all statements repeatedly, and cannot recognise a new perspective if it bit your bum. There is personal antagonism but they are as guilty as I - it takes 2 to Tango remember, how many times do I have to point this out I do not know. You/they are in denial of responsibility for their role in politics as 'old left sectarian bitch fighting'.
A) That is meaningless, 100 seats out of 20k is fuck all. AS I have said before this struggle is just beginning... It has been totally marginal for the past 15 years plus but now it is getting too important to be ignored, which still doesn't mean it affects everybody or everybodies struggles yet.
B) Their vote is going down overall, up in some areas down in others, quite wildly in some places as my examples on this thread show.
C) I think crowing about BNP failure is vital, otherwise you join in with fascist analysis.
D) Of course - that's why they despise Littlejohn so much and why UKIP have done ok.
E) No.
F) Fuck 'em. Lets gloat about the areas where they have done badly and disillusion them
a) of course 100 in 20000 is very few .. but that again entirely misses the point .. of their trajectory and that they are becoming a default option in many w/c communities
b) their overall vote continues to rise .. to pretend anything differrent is blind in the extreme
c) sorry but thtat is self delusion of the worst kind
d) but they are still growing
e) yes you do confuse this ( see above where you refer to them ONLY having 100 councillors ) .. as someone who continuously refers to praxis it is incredible you cannot see it is the progress and motion of the bnp that is important and instead you fixate upon static numbers .. IT IS NOT THE number of seats that is important but the damage being done in w/c areas
f) that is a legitimate tactic .. but you confuse that with the neccessary discussion on this and other political forums where we must be honest ..
your preamble yet again shows you are really not allowing yourself to look at this issue outside of your old, maybe right, maybe wrong, prejudices about those you have disagreed with ( p.s. i am not in denial of your concerns about/or RA and on many occasions i have agreed with you about them .. that though is NOT relevent to this arguement and their building of the IWCA) .. it reflects badly on your arguement and does not help the debate
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
I'm not being pedantic, I'm trying to honestly analyse the situation. You see what I seem to read in the words of yourself and people like Butch, is that the change in the fortunes of the BNP is down to the BNP. People go on about them doing the local work etc and this is the root of their success. In my area this patiently isn't true, and not only that the people on the left who have been doing such work have not been as successful as the fascist. So I'm arguing local work etc is not the cause of the BNP limited success. Have I misread you and butch, do you agree with that?hi mate .. hope you good .. yes not good is it .. and what you say shows they have moved up a level .. they now have the national profile that means they do not even need to do the door knocking
Euro fascism. Undoubtably this is a change in tactics that is slightly contributing to their limited success SO FAR. I am not being pedantic when I say their limited success is due to them moving down a level, not moving up. They've had to seriously distance themselves, publicly, from their own history, traditions, to make any headway. I can't remember where, but some time back Griffin argued fascism was unelectable in Britain. But far more important than their change in tactics in my opinion, is the change in the objective circumstances. The mainstream politicians, media, "the war on terror" is acting as a recruiting sergeant for the BNP, not the BNP. The BNP have just stop doing the things that used to expose them as fascists.
PS. yes thanks, I am well. hope you and yours are.
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
PS. I am not saying the antifascist haven't got a serious problem dealing with the shift in tactics, and the way they are working presently isn't being as effective as necessary.the big problem for anti-fascism is recruitment, imo.
audiotech
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The 'local work' people point to carried out by the BNP is to all intents and purposes crude political stunts to get the BNP name into people's consciousness. This is part of the phased development of the BNP and one that was tried and failed by the NF in the 70's.
Phase two of the development envisages a nationwide structure of groups and the setting up of intensive training programmes to build a cadre organisation of dedicated, trusted and reliable organisers.
Phase three was expected to turn the BNP from a nationwide party organisation into a society in microcosm.
Finally, phase four, which would not be a coup or revolution but rather a "third way" - the paralysing of the state from within by the mass organisation of a movement within the state organism.
TremulousTetra
prismatic universe
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
You people are laughable. When Red Action / IWCA were forewarning the Left that what was happening on continental Europe would happen here too (this was before they even had one councillor elected), eveybody on the Left, and I mean everybody- anarchist, communist or trotskyist - said that that would never happen here - you were no exception.
Now they have 100 councillors and it becomes "fuck all". The unthinkable becomes "fuck all".
You present yourself as a big man of Left, a theoretical heavyweight. But you know jackshit. Your as divisive as any paymaster would expect.
Joe Reilly
Well-Known Member
This yet more of the type of nonsense trotted out by the ANL in the 1990's. 'we beat them before and we will beat them again'. Within it is the lie that the NF were far stronger and had greater potential then. 'Tried and failed' are the operative words. It is both seductive and reassuring as intended. Rather interestingly the producer of 'The White Season' is a subscriber. In a discussion on Radio 4 he stated that the the 1979 election was the electoral high point for the far right. Utter bunk of course. The hundreds of thousands who ticked BNP in last Thursday's election in London should have put paid to it - but apparently not. If the BNP are to be beaten back the solutions promoted by UAF/Hoper not Hate and so forth will have to be ditched.
audiotech
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Joe, UAF have calculated 130,174 voted for the BNP in last Thursday's elections in London. Should we ditch these too and go with your hundreds of thousands?
this is - in part - the text of a leaflet Hackney Independent distributed at a Searchlight/Hackney TUC/UAF meeting in Hackney last month. (Apologies if this repeats a lot of stuff people have been arguing already.) The strategy it suggests ain't easy - given the state of working-class politics in the UK - but it's criticism of the type of fire-fighting that goes on every four years prior to an election is valid nevertheless:
This meeting tonight represents an old and failed method of combating the BNP. This ‘bureaucratic’ strategy is one which seeks an alliance of anti-racist and anti-fascist activists with mainstream political parties and institutions which has long been proved counter-productive.
• The mainstream political parties and their policies are not part of the solution but part of the problem.
It is no surprise at all that all the mainstream political parties in Hackney are supporting this strategy. They all profess a hatred of racism and all, understandably, want to halt the electoral growth of an opposition political party. However, they share a political consensus that supports policy which encourages support for the BNP in many areas of London and elsewhere in the country – be it overcrowded and poor housing conditions, free market ‘solutions’ to social problems, increasing social inequality, etc. This is particularly true of the Tories and New Labour, but also true for others like the Liberal Democrats where they control local councils. In housing, for example, a key campaigning area for the BNP, the policy of Right to Buy, lack of genuinely affordable housing, overcrowding and poor maintenance, has created conditions which make it easier for the BNP to blame immigrants. Anti-fascists should understand that the fight against the BNP is also a fight against the inequalities and poor conditions faced by many working class families, irrespective of race; and is therefore a fight against the parties and ideologies which pursue the policies damaging to working class families. Forming anti-BNP alliances with those that create the problems which allow the BNP to grow is a strategy which is justifiably met with contempt by those tempted to vote for them.
• Labelling the BNP ‘Nazi’ is simplistic and misses the mark.
Recent history should have taught anti-fascists that a campaign of sloganeering against the BNP by calling them ‘Nazi’ or ‘Fascist’ is of no practical use. It does not deter people from supporting them. This is because the BNP does not set out to appeal to Nazi sympathies within its constituency. On the contrary, the BNP – whatever the far-right sympathies of its leadership – has increasingly adopted a form of local, community politics which looks to address the very real problems faced by working class families. Similarly, the BNP can persuasively argue – in the accepted language of official multiculturalism – that it is legitimately representing the interests of an ethnic group, just as other ethnic groups are represented. In this manner ‘the establishment’ has gifted the BNP with an opportunity to both increase their public profile and cast themselves as free-speech martyrs.
The majority of people voting BNP are not hard-core Nazi’s or racists. Evidence shows that most of their support over the last 15 years comes from disillusioned Labour voters. These voters are not rabid-right-wingers, nor are they stupid people who need to be ‘educated’ by alliances of the middle-class Left and Right. They are quite justified in feeling disillusioned with New Labour. They do not deserve to be lectured down to. They deserve to be genuinely listened to and their problems taken seriously. If anti-racists and anti-fascists don’t attempt to bring them into struggles for social justice is it any wonder that some are persuaded to vote for the BNP?
• The way forward
What is required to combat the electoral growth of the BNP is for anti-fascists and anti-racists to engage consistently in local, community politics in order to, a) address the very legitimate needs and concerns of working class families and, b) provide an alternative to both the BNP and failed mainstream politics. The ‘bureaucratic’ strategy – building alliances with middle-class parties, moralising against instead of engaging with – is not only useless as an anti-fascist strategy, it has been proven to be counter-productive and boost the BNP’s electoral opportunities through protest voting.
Hackney Independent was originally one of a number of community politics groups that formed in the late 1990’s following the BNP’s turn to electoral politics. This criticism of ‘bureaucratic’ strategies to combat the BNP was formed during the campaign against BNP councillor Derek Beacon on the Isle of Dogs in 1993. (It is tragic that those lessons, 15 years on, have still not been learnt.) We believe that it is only consistent pro-working class community politics that can ultimately neuter the BNP. Those that offer the BNP electoral support need to be offered an alternative, so that they are able to fight for improvements in the conditions of their lives without being sucked into the arms of racists.
The best possible outcome for this meeting tonight in Hackney, therefore, and other meetings like this throughout London, is that anti-racists and anti-fascists organise themselves to work with working class communities to challenge not just the BNP, but also to challenge the social policies pursued by mainstream political parties which directly contribute to the disillusionment off which the BNP feed.
This meeting tonight represents an old and failed method of combating the BNP. This ‘bureaucratic’ strategy is one which seeks an alliance of anti-racist and anti-fascist activists with mainstream political parties and institutions which has long been proved counter-productive.
• The mainstream political parties and their policies are not part of the solution but part of the problem.
It is no surprise at all that all the mainstream political parties in Hackney are supporting this strategy. They all profess a hatred of racism and all, understandably, want to halt the electoral growth of an opposition political party. However, they share a political consensus that supports policy which encourages support for the BNP in many areas of London and elsewhere in the country – be it overcrowded and poor housing conditions, free market ‘solutions’ to social problems, increasing social inequality, etc. This is particularly true of the Tories and New Labour, but also true for others like the Liberal Democrats where they control local councils. In housing, for example, a key campaigning area for the BNP, the policy of Right to Buy, lack of genuinely affordable housing, overcrowding and poor maintenance, has created conditions which make it easier for the BNP to blame immigrants. Anti-fascists should understand that the fight against the BNP is also a fight against the inequalities and poor conditions faced by many working class families, irrespective of race; and is therefore a fight against the parties and ideologies which pursue the policies damaging to working class families. Forming anti-BNP alliances with those that create the problems which allow the BNP to grow is a strategy which is justifiably met with contempt by those tempted to vote for them.
• Labelling the BNP ‘Nazi’ is simplistic and misses the mark.
Recent history should have taught anti-fascists that a campaign of sloganeering against the BNP by calling them ‘Nazi’ or ‘Fascist’ is of no practical use. It does not deter people from supporting them. This is because the BNP does not set out to appeal to Nazi sympathies within its constituency. On the contrary, the BNP – whatever the far-right sympathies of its leadership – has increasingly adopted a form of local, community politics which looks to address the very real problems faced by working class families. Similarly, the BNP can persuasively argue – in the accepted language of official multiculturalism – that it is legitimately representing the interests of an ethnic group, just as other ethnic groups are represented. In this manner ‘the establishment’ has gifted the BNP with an opportunity to both increase their public profile and cast themselves as free-speech martyrs.
The majority of people voting BNP are not hard-core Nazi’s or racists. Evidence shows that most of their support over the last 15 years comes from disillusioned Labour voters. These voters are not rabid-right-wingers, nor are they stupid people who need to be ‘educated’ by alliances of the middle-class Left and Right. They are quite justified in feeling disillusioned with New Labour. They do not deserve to be lectured down to. They deserve to be genuinely listened to and their problems taken seriously. If anti-racists and anti-fascists don’t attempt to bring them into struggles for social justice is it any wonder that some are persuaded to vote for the BNP?
• The way forward
What is required to combat the electoral growth of the BNP is for anti-fascists and anti-racists to engage consistently in local, community politics in order to, a) address the very legitimate needs and concerns of working class families and, b) provide an alternative to both the BNP and failed mainstream politics. The ‘bureaucratic’ strategy – building alliances with middle-class parties, moralising against instead of engaging with – is not only useless as an anti-fascist strategy, it has been proven to be counter-productive and boost the BNP’s electoral opportunities through protest voting.
Hackney Independent was originally one of a number of community politics groups that formed in the late 1990’s following the BNP’s turn to electoral politics. This criticism of ‘bureaucratic’ strategies to combat the BNP was formed during the campaign against BNP councillor Derek Beacon on the Isle of Dogs in 1993. (It is tragic that those lessons, 15 years on, have still not been learnt.) We believe that it is only consistent pro-working class community politics that can ultimately neuter the BNP. Those that offer the BNP electoral support need to be offered an alternative, so that they are able to fight for improvements in the conditions of their lives without being sucked into the arms of racists.
The best possible outcome for this meeting tonight in Hackney, therefore, and other meetings like this throughout London, is that anti-racists and anti-fascists organise themselves to work with working class communities to challenge not just the BNP, but also to challenge the social policies pursued by mainstream political parties which directly contribute to the disillusionment off which the BNP feed.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Joe, UAF have calculated 130,174 voted for the BNP in last Thursday's elections in London. Should we ditch these too and go with your hundreds of thousands?
130714 is the offical London Elects figure for the party list election alone.
130 000 2nd prefs for mayor
70 000 1st prefs
130 000 party list votes
18 000 in City and East for assembly
First two together are 200 000 seperate votes - i.e non doubled.
Joe Reilly
Well-Known Member
Only 80,000 up on the same results in 2004 - a further sign of diminishing support. Naturally.
The Black Hand
Unclean
That would be funny if it weren't so tragic. 100 fash seats was only unthinkable to those with closed or ideological minds, OBJECTIVELY 100 out of 22K IS FUK ALL. That is LESS THAN HALF OF ONE PERCENT OF THE TOTAL - they are still marginal and irrelevant. GOOD.
Your last paragraph is even worse than your earlier offerings in that post, complete with bad sp/gm, and the illegitamate suggestion that i am causing division. harde har har.
The Black Hand
Unclean
a) of course 100 in 20000 is very few .. but that again entirely misses the point .. of their trajectory and that they are becoming a default option in many w/c communities
b) their overall vote continues to rise .. to pretend anything differrent is blind in the extreme
c) sorry but thtat is self delusion of the worst kind
d) but they are still growing
e) yes you do confuse this ( see above where you refer to them ONLY having 100 councillors ) .. as someone who continuously refers to praxis it is incredible you cannot see it is the progress and motion of the bnp that is important and instead you fixate upon static numbers .. IT IS NOT THE number of seats that is important but the damage being done in w/c areas
f) that is a legitimate tactic .. but you confuse that with the neccessary discussion on this and other political forums where we must be honest ..
your preamble yet again shows you are really not allowing yourself to look at this issue outside of your old, maybe right, maybe wrong, prejudices about those you have disagreed with ( p.s. i am not in denial of your concerns about/or RA and on many occasions i have agreed with you about them .. that though is NOT relevent to this arguement and their building of the IWCA) .. it reflects badly on your arguement and does not help the debate
A) yes....
B) WIll have to check some more stats, but there is a downward drift from what I have seen in the council elections.
C) Agree to disagree.
D) Not entirely true - there are wild differences in areas, and within areas (+ or - over 30%).
E) You view W/C areas as being OK till the BNP moved in - doing the damage. I view most of them as already divided, and in need of more solidarity. So the damage is already done. That is why I do not think the BNP are making our task that much/significantly harder, it is ALREADY difficult.
F) I would prefer our 'honest' discussions to be in areas where fascists cannot read what is going on thanks.
I have a political perspective which IS different to IWCA/RA. My politics are derived from experience of the current social and economic situation, and political experience. Thus, I do not accept RA/IWCA analysis, mine IS different, and I am proud of it. It stands in its own right, and will go on and be used by activists for a generation or more to come. It is a historical position in touch with the times and one that has space for development, other 'anti fascisms' are now totally discredited (IWCA in retreat - official soft left and UAF lost) , whereas the area of autonomy perspective is just getting onto the train ready to start its journey(s).
Divisive Cotton
Now I just have my toy soldiers
What was that you wrote about bad spelling and grammar? It's nonsensical abbreviations to me.
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