The Black Hand
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How bizarre how bizarre Joe - lying as well, you are the wierd ultra left headbanger.
I have nothing to do with or faith in Lancaster UAF.
Griffin and BNP strategy
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How bizarre how bizarre Joe - lying as well, you are the wierd ultra left headbanger.
I have nothing to do with or faith in Lancaster UAF.
The Black Hand
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1. Where is the class poltics? Just saying it's there doesn't make it so.
2. If you don't think the New Labour piece is spin, then my previous comment about you living in a 'through the looking glass world' is even truer than I thought.
3. What are the illusions I'm full of; let's have some detail rather than mere assertion.
4. I do not see the IWCA as 'some sort of new left by itelf'. Indeed I have said this numerous times before on these boards; it's one way forward, not the way.
5. I do not have a teleological view of change; indeed I have argued against such a view in lectures, seminars, conference presentations and published articles..oh and on here.
6. I do not incessantly big up the IWCA (religously or otherwise...I reserve my fevour for bigging up running http://www.dpfr.org.uk/album/2008/Skyline/slides/l10%20357.php); although sometimes I do try to correct some of your more outlandish posts...see above.
Cheers - Louis MacNeice
really - what articles are those. I did not know you had written anything at all.
You and others such as Joe are clearly guilty of bigging up the IWCA as if they had some sort of good politics. Get over it. DO something else as well and operate outside their stupid loop, otherwise you are guilty of old left politics - the illusion that one group is OK.
There is class politics. If you can't spot it you are more stupid than you appear.
If the Labour doc is spin you are the libertarian spin master for the IWCA.
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
This wouldn't be you then:
"It is a mistake to underestimate these people [Lancaster UAF] I think Jim. The article you refer too is sensible as you said."
Louis MacNeice
butchersapron
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Have i been sacked?
Louis MacNeice
Autumn Journalist
Still no substance, just more accusation and assertion; all of which is a bit odd seeing as how the IWCA doesn't interest you at all.
Louis (BA's job share partner) MacNeice
The Black Hand
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That is irrelevant and shows your desperation and fascination with MY politics - i really am not that interested to that extent. Do you keep 'enemies of old left' files on people? You lot should have more open minds than you do.
I said it was a mistake to underestimate them, that is way different from having ANY political support for them, same goes for saying saying 1 article of theirs is 'sensible'. I didn't say it was any good
Dear me - you are getting wierd with this line of approach.The Black Hand
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YOU HAVE NO SUBSTANCE - I asked you what articles you had written and you have not replied. I was first
yes mate totally .. and the worrying thing is that this 'protest' vote can be used my griffin and recycled into real fascism .. i find it hard to believe that is possible .. BUT if things get economically far worse ( a possibility ) then maybe ..
12 in nuneaton is a lot .. ex mining town though possibly white flight from cov .. anyone now much about the place?? .. except used to be the second biggest non league team! 20k ground and all
butchersapron
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They did well in a local election there last year 21.5% and 36% and seem to have an active local group.
cockneyrebel
New Member
Well I'm glad butchers that you didn't want me derailing the thread. I mean the childish crap posted above is clearly very important.
And wait a minute a newsflash coming in. Apparently the BNP are doing well. Knock me down with a feather.
And wait a minute a newsflash coming in. Apparently the BNP are doing well. Knock me down with a feather.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Fantastic post CR. Keep up the good work.
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cockneyrebel
New Member
Well however bad it was it can't have been any worse than the crap in the posts above it.
cockneyrebel
New Member
While Griffin might usually have his head screwed on the nut jobs are still in there with the BNP:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...+sacked+over+'rape+is+a+myth'+blog/article.do
But it's ok because:
Indeed this is clearly taken out of context:
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...+sacked+over+'rape+is+a+myth'+blog/article.do
But it's ok because:
Indeed this is clearly taken out of context:
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Catch up cockers
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=7326836#post7326836
Get yer head out of yer bum and start watching the world around you, including General
http://www.urban75.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=7326836#post7326836
Get yer head out of yer bum and start watching the world around you, including General
The Black Hand
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Approx 250/300 down on last time?
The Black Hand
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it appears bradford bnps NOT doing so well - BNP struggling to find candidates and another far right fringe group is standing 9 candidates against the BNP's 8, and in the same wards...
North West candidates
Here's the North West tally so far:
Liverpool 11
St Helens 10
Sefton 6
Wirral 2
Knowsley 2
And also 6 in Salford.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Where did you hear that?
The Black Hand
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From where the previous message implied.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Can't find it - i can see it saying they've heard 6 in bradford though, that's why i was asking.
All these are provisional i think anyway, nominees not officially published till tuedsay.
All these are provisional i think anyway, nominees not officially published till tuedsay.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
BNP say they're standing 625 - 120 or so down on last year. Only 30 in Wales. Full slates in Southend-On-Sea, Basildon Thurrock, Broxbourne, Leeds, Birmingham and Sunderland...
625 seats will be fough in in england, 30 in wales
included is
Liverpool 11 , Salford 6 , OLdham 2 , Bury 8, Sefton 6 , Wirral 2
Knowsley 2 , St Helens 10 , Manchester 3, Bradford 8,
Kirklees 20 , Barnsley 20 , Rotherham 5 , Leeds 33 ,Sunderland 25 , Newcastle 12, Stoke-on-Trent 10 ,Sandwell 12 , Birmingham 40 , Tamworth 1
Nuneaton & Bedworth 12, Wolverhampton 2, Amber Valley 7 Derby 2
Broxborne 12 , Three Rivers 2, Colchester 1 , Thurrock 16 ,Southend 17
Basildon 14 , Castle Point 3, Crawley 6, Caermarthen 2, Swansea 4, Lincoln 5, CCarlisle 9, Barrow 2, Northumberland 1 South Tyneside 13, North Tyneside 4, Dudley 10, Wrexham 9, Worthing 2, Gwynedd 1, Bridgend 1, Daventry 1, Solihull 12
included is
Liverpool 11 , Salford 6 , OLdham 2 , Bury 8, Sefton 6 , Wirral 2
Knowsley 2 , St Helens 10 , Manchester 3, Bradford 8,
Kirklees 20 , Barnsley 20 , Rotherham 5 , Leeds 33 ,Sunderland 25 , Newcastle 12, Stoke-on-Trent 10 ,Sandwell 12 , Birmingham 40 , Tamworth 1
Nuneaton & Bedworth 12, Wolverhampton 2, Amber Valley 7 Derby 2
Broxborne 12 , Three Rivers 2, Colchester 1 , Thurrock 16 ,Southend 17
Basildon 14 , Castle Point 3, Crawley 6, Caermarthen 2, Swansea 4, Lincoln 5, CCarlisle 9, Barrow 2, Northumberland 1 South Tyneside 13, North Tyneside 4, Dudley 10, Wrexham 9, Worthing 2, Gwynedd 1, Bridgend 1, Daventry 1, Solihull 12
as to reducted numbers, there were over 10,000 seats up for grabs last year, about 4,000 this year, and no elections is a whole swathe of where they are organised
and of course, their internal splits have hit them hard in some areas, that is obvoius. however, their key wards will generally be covered
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