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Griffin and BNP strategy

If i have my facts right this will be the 2004 seats being fought again - that time they stood 312 candiadates, so they've just about exactly doubled their candidates.

2004/these seats was the year that the BNP vote really took off, so these seats are ones where they've done well in before and would have been trying to put down real local roots in.Now we'll see what results this brings for them...
 
Attica said:
it appears bradford bnps NOT doing so well - BNP struggling to find candidates and another far right fringe group is standing 9 candidates against the BNP's 8, and in the same wards...
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considering Griffin expelled the whole of their Bradford branch commitee, who went with the rebel grouping, not surprising. it will be intereting to see hwo many this democratic nationalist mob put up nationwide.
 
butchersapron said:
If i have my facts right this will be the 2004 seats being fought again - that time they stood 312 candiadates, so they've just about exactly doubled their candidates.

2004/these seats was the year that the BNP vote really took off, so these seats are ones where they've done well in before and would have been trying to put down real local roots in.Now we'll see what results this brings for them...
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absoultely correct figures, 312. the only variant is the Welsh Local elections, which were last fought in 2003, where they raised 4 candidates
 
butchersapron said:
If i have my facts right this will be the 2004 seats being fought again - that time they stood 312 candiadates, so they've just about exactly doubled their candidates.

2004/these seats was the year that the BNP vote really took off, so these seats are ones where they've done well in before and would have been trying to put down real local roots in.Now we'll see what results this brings for them...
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So you're saying if they've stood still that is a defeat, & if they've done worse a rout....
 
Few more
Rochdale 1, Oldham 2, Blackburn 1, Hitchin 3, Hartlepool 2, North Tyneside 4, Doncaster 3, Plymouth 2, Stroud 1, Bassetlaw 1, Redditch 1, Tamworth 1, Burnley 10, Manchester 3, Trafford 1, Gateshead 12, Coventry 13, Rushmoor 4, Hartlepool 2, Tameside 8, Stockport 8


England first fighting 8 wards
Blackburn 2, Oldham 2, Burnley 1, Milton Keynes 1, Preston 1 , Isle of Wight 1.

NF fighting 5 in Birmingham, 1 in North Tyneside
 
News from Wales is that they have had a community councillor returned unopposed in the depths of Carmarthenshire (Penygroes), and the same guy (Kevin Edwards) is also standing in the same ward at county level where it's going to be a straight fight between the BNP and the sitting Plaid councillor. Going to be an interesting fascism vs Welsh nationalism contest.

But the main threat is in Wrexham and north-east Wales.
 
Sunderland BNP would need 25 candidates for a full slate. I predict they'll only have 24. Scratch Sunderland from the full slate list.
 
lewislewis said:
News from Wales is that they have had a community councillor returned unopposed in the depths of Carmarthenshire (Penygroes), and the same guy (Kevin Edwards) is also standing in the same ward at county level where it's going to be a straight fight between the BNP and the sitting Plaid councillor. Going to be an interesting fascism vs Welsh nationalism contest.

But the main threat is in Wrexham and north-east Wales.
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4 more unopposed community councillors in Wrexham
 
lewislewis said:
News from Wales is that they have had a community councillor returned unopposed in the depths of Carmarthenshire (Penygroes), and the same guy (Kevin Edwards) is also standing in the same ward at county level where it's going to be a straight fight between the BNP and the sitting Plaid councillor. Going to be an interesting fascism vs Welsh nationalism contest.

But the main threat is in Wrexham and north-east Wales.
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4 more unopposed community councillors in Wrexham
 
And a few more, apologies if reperted

2 Tower Hamlets, by election. 1 Bournemouth by election. Bury 5. Wigan 7. Sheffield 8. Wakefield 12. Walsall 1. Cannock 1. Calderdale 9. Rugby 1. Cheshire County Council 5. Northumberland County Council 1. Wokingham 1. Hatfield 1. Bassetlaw 1.
 
JimPage said:
And a few more, apologies if reperted

2 Tower Hamlets, by election. 1 Bournemouth by election. Bury 5. Wigan 7. Sheffield 8. Wakefield 12. Walsall 1. Cannock 1. Calderdale 9. Rugby 1. Cheshire County Council 5. Wokingham 1. Hatfield 1. QUOTE]
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lewislewis said:
News from Wales is that they have had a community councillor returned unopposed in the depths of Carmarthenshire (Penygroes), and the same guy (Kevin Edwards) is also standing in the same ward at county level where it's going to be a straight fight between the BNP and the sitting Plaid councillor. Going to be an interesting fascism vs Welsh nationalism contest.

But the main threat is in Wrexham and north-east Wales.
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thats depressing .. thats my hen wlad fy'nhadau .. another former mining area .. suspect he will get hammered by plaid .. THOUGH i gather there has been a lot of people moving into this area due to the M4/A48??? swansea commuters?? is this right??

( when i was in llanelli last year we saw (and abused) a small N92 society march leather jackets and jacks and dragons (all out of towners i think but pretty surreal still )

http://www.thisissouthwales.co.uk/d...4041&folderPk=88499&pNodeId=161375&bustcache=

note the usual swansea idiots commenting

and :( ( broken link)

http://regionalnews. bnp. org. uk/bnp-wales-region/west-wales-bnp-holds-it-first-meeting_3121.html
 
Nobody in Penygroes even knew the BNP was standing. If people had known they would have put themselves up. The people commenting on that news story are almost certainly not people from Swansea and are BNP trolls. Though of course the BNP do have members in Swansea who will be working the internet like the rest of the party.

Of course one of the most interesting points about the BNP in Wales is that asylum seekers do not live here in great numbers, neither do immigrants especially when compared to some parts of England. Thus the Presiding Officer of our Assembly was suggesting at the Searchlight Cymru launch the other day that councils could be armed with all the proper facts and figures to be issued whenever racists stand for election. Because at the moment there is no place in Wales really that can be considered 'overrun' by foreigners.

And indeed in the Cardiff borough where the majority of Wales' ethnic minorities live, the BNP aren't even standing.

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news...s-against-national-front-lies-91466-20743890/
 
durruti02 said:
does the bnp in wales tap into a anti welsh nationalist vein do you think?
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Their stronghold in Wales is along the N Wales coast, where there's a clear majority of English born people. Many of these are white flighters from the northern cities. The BNP organiser, and one of those elected to a community council, is a case in point - ex-army, ex-prison officer, moved from Kent to N Wales and became a property developer (aka ripping off locals). A particular nasty piece of scum.
They're v confused about Welsh identity etc.
 
An almost complete list now up on searchlight website, which misses 3 by elections in London (inluding first time outing in Barnet) and Bournemouth. 617 in total including these, excluding Parish and Town council elections. An absences of candidates where they have stood before and there are no candidates, due to their split, like Hull and Scunthorpe, very frew in Blackburn and Oldham and a mysterious absence in Exeter and Swindon. A strong showing in Metropolitan Districts- 348 Candidates as opposed to 682 for Lib Bems, Tories 812 and Labour 826 (out of a possibel 827 seats). In view of their split, a pretty impressive show by them
 
JimPage said:
And a few more, apologies if reperted

2 Tower Hamlets, by election. 1 Bournemouth by election. Bury 5. Wigan 7. Sheffield 8. Wakefield 12. Walsall 1. Cannock 1. Calderdale 9. Rugby 1. Cheshire County Council 5. Northumberland County Council 1. Wokingham 1. Hatfield 1. Bassetlaw 1.
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I don't understand this list... two what in Tower Hamlets? Two councillors :confused:
 
Bridgend organising against BNP

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info i got today that i thought might be useful to put on here
Bridgend Council Election - organising against the BNP


Dear All - please forward this to anyone who might help

Unite Against Fascism in Bridgend are organising two days of action.(Please see main details below).The BNP are standing a candidate (Adam Lloyd) in the Cefn Glas Area of Bridgend. It is crucial that the BNP do not get a toe hold in Bridgend. Your help is urgently needed in preventing this.Unite Against Fascism will be leafleting Cefn Glas on the below dates and times.Please come along and help prevent the BNP getting in.If you can only come for an hour your help will be very much appreciated.

Anti-fascist campaigners in Bridgend are working with key partners, local organisations and politicians to raise awareness of the far-right threat, and a show of force from trade unionists, distributing leaflets and canvassing on the below days will be crucial to maximising our impact.

Please support the campaign, attend the days of action and circulate details of this event to any trade union colleagues.

- Main Meeting point: Spar,Cefn Glas, 44-48, Llangewydd Rd, Bridgend, Mid Glamorgan CF31 4JR Sunday
20th & 27th April - 10.00 a.m.
- If you can't make it until later, phone **removed but pm me if you want it** to see where we have go to.
- Also, if you can make any evening in the week, we could organise some door knocking - phone mobile enough.

(cut and paste the below into your web address bar to get directions)

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...=15&iwloc=addr

(Outside Cefn Glas fish and chip shop and spar, opposite the Community Centre, should be plenty of parking.)

Hope to see lots of you
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lewislewis said:
Nobody in Penygroes even knew the BNP was standing. If people had known they would have put themselves up. The people commenting on that news story are almost certainly not people from Swansea and are BNP trolls. Though of course the BNP do have members in Swansea who will be working the internet like the rest of the party.

Of course one of the most interesting points about the BNP in Wales is that asylum seekers do not live here in great numbers, neither do immigrants especially when compared to some parts of England. Thus the Presiding Officer of our Assembly was suggesting at the Searchlight Cymru launch the other day that councils could be armed with all the proper facts and figures to be issued whenever racists stand for election. Because at the moment there is no place in Wales really that can be considered 'overrun' by foreigners.

And indeed in the Cardiff borough where the majority of Wales' ethnic minorities live, the BNP aren't even standing.

http://icwales.icnetwork.co.uk/news...s-against-national-front-lies-91466-20743890/
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they win either way when it comes to these candidates unelected. Obviously they can add them to their tally of responsible officials but perhaps they would actually prefer the burst of local publicity or even national publicity caused by an outraged local leftwing campaign to force an election in such cases than for these people rather to just quietly take their seats in little known parish councils of no power or importance. The blonde bombshell in that Sussex village was incredibly good publicity for them for all the right reasons,I don't think they would mind too much that in the end she was narrowly defeated by a large campaign. It made the national press with about as ideal an image of a BNP member as they'll ever be able to show off. And of course everyone in that area will now be aware of the party's existence there. The first priority for any minor political party anywhere is make themselves talk of the town
 
JimPage said:
No, 2 council by-elections in Millwall and Weavers ward, both being fought by BNP
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The voters in Millwall will also get the chance to vote for al-Respeq (GG) or for the Lost List - the Social Workers formerly known as al-Respeq. The fools couldn't resist standing against each other.

"We're Real Respeq!"
"No. We're Real Respeq!"

In Weavers there is an al-Respeq (GG) candidate, but it is not clear whether the voters will get the chance to vote for the Lost List. The Social Workers and their few chums selected Shamsun Murshid (wife of Kumar Murshid) as their candidate. However, on the Tower Hamladesh site no one by exactly that name is listed and no candidate is listed as standing for the Lost List.

http://www.towerhamlets.gov.uk/templates/news/detail.cfm?newsid=9148

Is Niru Murshid the same person as Shamsun Murshid? If so, why is no party name listed?

If nobody is now standing for the Social Workers' Lost List in Weavers ward, why the change of mind?


It seems unlikely that the Social Workers stood down for anti-BNP unity in Weavers, given that they are still contesting Millwall.



On a slightly different point, then, haven't the Social Workers been shouting for years that when the BNP stands, we must vote for whoever has the best chance of beating the BNP candidate? In Weavers ward, I suppose, that's the Lib Dem and in Millwall it's the Tory. Happy voting!



Would a passing Social Worker, or Jim Page, like to clarify either issue?
 
JHE said:
On a slightly different point, then, haven't the Social Workers been shouting for years that when the BNP stands, we must vote for whoever has the best chance of beating the BNP candidate? In Weavers ward, I suppose, that's the Lib Dem and in Millwall it's the Tory. Happy voting!

Would a passing Social Worker, or Jim Page, like to clarify either issue?
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in both wards, Respects Left List will slaughter them, so vote RLL
 
JimPage said:
in both wards, Respects Left List will slaughter them, so vote RLL
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You are convinced, then, that RLL, as you call it, is standing in Weavers?

Is Niru Murshid the RLL candidate? Is Niru Murshid the same person as Shamsun Murshid (the selected RLL candidate)? Why is there no party name at all? Is it all another Social Work balls up?

(Rebecca Jane Townesend, the Social Worker standing in Millwall, has a party label.)
 
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